Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Jonjonj

the russian mob, by what I hear has their hands in the casino business here in the states...
trump, their family, along with some of the former administration members own a considerable amount of money to
russian banks, ect.
this guy, by what I am reading here on this thread, owes a big gambling debt.
trump, his family, along with some of the former administration members it seems may have tried to work out a deal or deals to possibly offset their debts, or create new beneficial relationships with russia.
those deals fell through, which much of the reason for that being trump and family's own actions.
maybe this is just a little reminder to trump and gang on just how russia feels about unpaid debts and broken promises?
the guy couldn't pay his debts off, the russian mob that has their hands in the casino gave him a choice, die an very unpleasant death by having both your kneecaps shot off and left in the desert, or do us this favor???

since some are trying so hard to make the case that a 60+ year old white man is a member of antifa, well...
why not put my own most crazy ideas down in writing also!!!

Now that is some thoroughbred tinfoil!

How about we change Trump as the offender though, just to add some more spice, what about this?

The deals that were made by the Democrats on the strength of the assured victory in the last election can now not be honoured unless...

The president goes along with the plan?

There were a lot of promises made, politics is not a day to day game.

a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Does anybody hear two separate guns shooting at the same time in this video near the end?

twitter.com...

Videos on twitter.

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: Xcalibur254

I would argue that it could be a sudden act of madness. Just look at Charles Whitman. He carried a footlocker full of guns and ammo up to the top of University of Texas bell tower and fired in to a crowd more

But for the fact that he had an arsenal, it's not exactly "sudden."

10 guns is just the start of a good collection, it hardly constitutes an "arsenal".

People are assuming that the guns were full auto. I have not seen anything that confirms that at all. The videos of the shooting are making people assume that they were full auto, but I suspect that the sounds from the shots are echoing and that they may have even been caught on the various microphones on stage and that is causing people to think that the rate of fire was higher than it was. You can fire off a lot of rounds in semi auto and when shooting into a crowd its no surprise that you would hit a lot of people.

a reply to: WhyDidIJoin

That's a disturbing video. You can see the bullets hitting the ground at the end. It could be a combination of the gun firing, the echo from the buildings, and the bullets slamming the pavement.

Rooftop footage from Mandalay Bay.

Supposedly this was taken from the same hotel. Couldn't tell where the shots were coming from.

originally posted by: matafuchs
neighbors say ' he was quiet'. Those are the ones that stay off the radar and when something happens 'bam'.

As George Carlin said, are you gonna be worried about a guy sitting in the corner reading a book or the guy banging a machete on the bar yelling "I'll kill the next mother#er that walks in here!"

But yeah, it really is no surprise the family doesn't think he was a killer. Does anyone really think that sounds suspicious? Some of these folks gotta be trolling.

a reply to: UKTruth

Are you titalated that there is a person that may be him, or not in a pink pussy hat?

What is the point in your delight?

a reply to: WhyDidIJoin

It may be echoes too.

originally posted by: matafuchs
He was not having 'money' issues. Seems that he was cashing out quite a bit lately. 10's of thousands. He was also going through a divorce I heard on TV but now no mention. Just mention of the girl friend.

Point is you never know what someone is capable of until it happens. Relatives almost always say ' i Have no idea' and neighbors say ' he was quiet'. Those are the ones that stay off the radar and when something happens 'bam'.

Still, the sheer amount of gunfire to me seems quite a bit for someone who is not trained professionally. He was football fields away shooting down on a crowd. Fact he had cameras in the room to know when the police would be there also shows he wanted to kill as many as possible.

Someone out there knows more to the story.

Where did you read about him having cameras set up in or around the room?

For those looking for an update (this is just my opinion so please look into more deeply)

Steve paddock has shot and killed 58 or more people and injured over 400 more.

He appears to have used his girlfriend's id and things to register for the hotel.

He was in the hotel since Sept28.

His girlfriend has been cleared of being there as she was found out of the country.

It appears he used an automatic rifle, and police say they found 10 guns in his hotel room.

He was dead when police breached his room.

Despite much speculation, there is still no idea of motive.

Isis claimed responsibilty with no evidence, and I lean to thinking they are full of it.

There are claims that the shooter was seen at anti trump rally, but this is unconfirmed (and to me doesn't prove motive)

Some people are questioning the official story saying perhaps there were more shooters and other such things.

There were heroes on the ground that ran toward gun fire and saved who knows how many people.

That's how I see it so far.

a reply to: Dragoon01

10 guns is just the start of a good collection, it hardly constitutes an "arsenal".

It does when you take them all to a #N hotel room along with ammo with the intent to shoot up a bunch of innocent people.

This wasn't his house. He brought them to the hotel.

Maybe my tin-foil is too tight, but I think all these mass tragedy events are false flags to some degree.

originally posted by: Dragoon01

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: Xcalibur254

I would argue that it could be a sudden act of madness. Just look at Charles Whitman. He carried a footlocker full of guns and ammo up to the top of University of Texas bell tower and fired in to a crowd more

But for the fact that he had an arsenal, it's not exactly "sudden."

10 guns is just the start of a good collection, it hardly constitutes an "arsenal".

People are assuming that the guns were full auto. I have not seen anything that confirms that at all. The videos of the shooting are making people assume that they were full auto, but I suspect that the sounds from the shots are echoing and that they may have even been caught on the various microphones on stage and that is causing people to think that the rate of fire was higher than it was. You can fire off a lot of rounds in semi auto and when shooting into a crowd its no surprise that you would hit a lot of people.

But 58 dead and 500+ injured? Most people seem to think, people in the know that is, that these were high velocity rounds full auto, right?
Or is that not the case, because I have less than no clue about weapons to be fair. They sound atrocious though, ripping the air and the concrete.

originally posted by: Dragoon01

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: Xcalibur254

I would argue that it could be a sudden act of madness. Just look at Charles Whitman. He carried a footlocker full of guns and ammo up to the top of University of Texas bell tower and fired in to a crowd more

But for the fact that he had an arsenal, it's not exactly "sudden."

10 guns is just the start of a good collection, it hardly constitutes an "arsenal".

They just reported on MSNBC it's 18-20 guns in the room, some semi-auto. Some AR15-style and AK-47 style. I do agree though the media gets out of hand with the labels. They talk about having 500 rounds like that's crazy. Some people just buy ammo in bulk because it's cheaper that way, and if you practice with any regularity you will go through 500 rounds fairly quickly.

a reply to: Grambler

Getting unconfirmed reports that the perp had cameras set up in his room and was recording it. We'll see.

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: UKTruth

Are you titalated that there is a person that may be him, or not in a pink pussy hat?

What is the point in your delight?

Delight?
No, I am interested in motive and am leaning towards a political one given the circumstantial evidence.
Bye for now.

a reply to: WhyDidIJoin

It sounds to me like echo but I'm not a gun expert by any means.

a reply to: Konduit

I couldn't see bullets, have you a time stamp Konduit?

A man who spends much money gambling at a casino shots up the area of the casinos. The exact connection is still to be found.

a reply to: zatarafirst off lv casinos are covered completely with cctv. second by the sound of the gunfire the gunman or men were using machine guns which generally are not legally allowed to be owned by regular people. reports are saying from the shooters room there were 19 firearms. who thing smells they blew the door down to find supposed shooter dead. smells more like he was a dupe and a few trained guys did this and when they were alerted cops inbound killed dupe left guns behind and went to another room.

but no i would not call for gun control and cctv would not have helped.

a reply to: Konduit

I had seen a report earlier that he had cams set up outside his room, with the speculation being that he was monitoring them for the approach of LE units.