Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

a reply to: dawnstar

We'll see.
Unless you think a gambling debt did it.

But where did he get the fully auto weapons?
Theyre extremely illegal highly regulated by the ATF and very hard to come by
and usually cost in the tens of thousands of dollars to buy personally.
how did he get it?

originally posted by: olaru12
A guy knocks out 2 large windows in a big vegas hotel and no one goes up to investigate? This really stinks...

I'm thinking they were more concerned about the gunshots.

You're aware the cops did go up to the room right?

Not a lone wolf, mentally ill...etc, call this for what it was, an act of terrorism. Media needs to stop the double standard, when a white person goes on a shooting spree, compared to when a a minority does.

originally posted by: dashen
But where did he get the fully auto weapons?
Theyre extremely illegal highly regulated by the ATF and very hard to come by
and usually cost in the tens of thousands of dollars to buy personally.
how did he get it?

So far they haven't discovered any criminal record. That means he would likely pass the background check and legally be able to purchase automatic weapons.

As for the money, he could have dipped into retirement savings or just used a credit card.

a reply to: Leonidas

There are 300 million guns in the USA you can legislate whatever the hell you want the genie is out of the bottle

a reply to: zazzafrazz
I don't think we will ever know the real truth of this.

Domestic violence or mental breakdown is a remote possibility like a thousand others. Being ambushed, having someone who targeted the room as the optimum placed, who then shot him and left him as the pasty, after they did their deed and took off, is also a remote possibility.

The family, the neighbors, his past, shows nothing that makes sense of this. I just hope this is thoroughly investigated. It may turn out to be what it seems, I am having trouble believing it is just a question of motive.

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: starviego

64 year old retired accountant no prior convictions just doesnt make sense.

Or gambling debts, owed money to "someone," pissed away retirement in Vegas, who knows...

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: zazzafrazz

Someone deliberately killing people for ten to fifteen minutes isnt having a breakdown they are operating in a zone or on bloodlust or something but obviously very functional.

It depends on what wires get fried in the brain.

The ability to plan and carry out an attack can be perfectly intact with other centers of the brain damaged, impaired or offline.

FBI interview list probably involves everyone he interacted with while gambling.

Casino's have more camera's than anyplace else in the USA. They are going to be pouring over footage for weeks.

originally posted by: ShawnTBear
Not a lone wolf, mentally ill...etc, call this for what it was, an act of terrorism. Media needs to stop the double standard, when a white person goes on a shooting spree, compared to when a a minority does.

Terrorism depends on his motivations. If he was just a nut killing people for no specific purpose, it's not terrorism by definition.

originally posted by: MagesticEsoteric

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: MagesticEsoteric
a reply to: face23785

That source says it was the 44th floor.

I thought it was the 32nd floor.

More interestingly I just watched a LONG eyewitness report on CNN from a woman who was in the Mandalay Bay apparently. She said she was on the 64th floor looking down at the carnage - she said it more than once. I did not think there was a 64th floor. Bloody odd.

Thats wired.

To be fair though she could just be making her story up to get her 15mins of fame on tv.

Maybe - she was on for 15 minutes, lol. I am going to get her details as they were up on screen.. She was calling into Wolf Blitzer. Blitzer even prompted her... "so you were on the 64th floor looking down... "... "yes", she says. She also has a video that has been posted.

Her name is Meghan Cavalus. She presented her eyewitness statement over the phone like a professional.

Unless Wikipedia is outdated, it states its 43 floors

Yeah, I noticed her report was odd, because there was a picture of the 32nd floor windows blown out as she was speaking.. and they are near the top.
There was a moment when she paused after she said 64th floor for the second time - almost as if she knew she messed up.

originally posted by: olaru12
A guy knocks out 2 large windows in a big vegas hotel and no one goes up to investigate? This really stinks...

The cops went up to investigate.

But hey, let's not let that get in the way of narratives and agendas, now.

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: Leonidas

There are 300 million guns in the USA you can legislate whatever the hell you want the genie is out of the bottle

That is my point.

originally posted by: MagesticEsoteric

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

They are everywhere, but this guy lived in Mesquite in a retirement village.

It was in reference to the lady warning the people at the concert before the shooting.

One young woman described the lady, who was making her way through the crowd with the pretense that her boyfriend was unable to breathe, as an Hispanic woman 5'5" tall. She was playing with people's hair and acting crazy saying that they are all around you and you're all going to die.

Was she warning them or rubbing it in wickedly?

originally posted by: dashen
But where did he get the fully auto weapons?
Theyre extremely illegal highly regulated by the ATF and very hard to come by
and usually cost in the tens of thousands of dollars to buy personally.
how did he get it?

He did have money...owned plane(s) and more than one residence and apparently gambled in high stakes.

An accountant, so likely managed his money reasonably. And fully aware how to exploit bankruptcy laws and navigate financial issues well even if he ran into trouble.

Something went seriously amuck in his brain IMO.

a reply to: soberbacchus

Yes there is no way someone can say how his mental break happened. But to suggest there was no mental issue because he 'planned' after slaughtering all these people is a stretch.

a reply to: UKTruth

Have you found a video?

Wouldn't someone know what floor they are staying on? Unless she just misspoke????

originally posted by: dashen
But where did he get the fully auto weapons?
Theyre extremely illegal highly regulated by the ATF and very hard to come by
and usually cost in the tens of thousands of dollars to buy personally.
how did he get it?

THAT is a big question.

Finding the person that sold him the weapons illegally will be difficult. But presumably these weapons were purchased for just this plan, so that person might have insight into motive or disposition etc.

a reply to: olaru12

Why? He would have knocked them out right before opening fire. I think at that point the staff would have more important things to worry about than checking out some broken windows on the 32nd floor. Hell, maybe that's how the police found out where he was.

a reply to: queenofswords

It might be worth creating a hashtag # for people to reply to who saw the woman to get their statements before it becomes myth