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Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

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posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:24 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Interesting...

I am curious who the woman is the police had? unless it was just misreporting by media that they were looking for this lady and assumed when the police located her that it meant "in custody" and not "located in another country".

As for the talk about suing the Casino it still would not make sense to shoot up people at a concert. The only thing I can think of is he might have thought he could do more damage financially to Casinos by this type of crime than shooting up a casino. I would imagine the concert goers stayed at multiple hotels in the area.

just a thought...




posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: TrueBrit




I hope that the answers are forthcoming, and not as prone to obfuscation and deceits as those required in other, previous circumstances, have been


Doubtful. For as much as the media ratchets up these stories, the details are always shady. It it weren't the case, ATS would not fill a role!


The media coverage is always awful. Most of the field reporters don't even know enough about guns to ask the right questions.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: hillbilly4rent

You cant get machine guns but you can buy the below . Just wow.



You sure can and to add with a 80% milled lower you have a sudo automatic asualt rifles. I'm just throwing out hypos at this point I'm still lost and confused as to why.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: dreamingawake

ISIS will claim responsibility for every terrorist act, and there are numerous people gullible enough to believe it



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: dreamingawake

ISIS would claim my fart if it was strong enough.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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Another one. Again, one can't help but wonder what it's all about and where it's headed.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: hillbilly4rent

According to some news agencies he had converted to Islam a month or so ago



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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To get it all together, because i couldn´t follow the whole thread.
I guess i heard or read if i remember right, relating to the woman in the crowd, that there were two suspects, looking mexican, a male and a female, arrested.

Then, at the very beginning of the thread, somebody said that they have the shooter and that he was wearing camo clothes.

Plus that several sources stated that they heard more than one gun fired in that video. Maybe somebody shot him from outside, through the window?

And what´s now, did the suspect still kim himself, or did they switch to "taken down by the police" again?

It´s all a bit confusing!



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: hillbilly4rent

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: hillbilly4rent

You cant get machine guns but you can buy the below . Just wow.



You sure can and to add with a 80% milled lower you have a sudo automatic asualt rifles. I'm just throwing out hypos at this point I'm still lost and confused as to why.


You can indeed get machine guns too, it's just very expensive. However, with the time and tactical advantage the guy had, he could've done just as much damage with an unmodified semi-auto rifle.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: HeadCrunchMcRockGroin

Even if it turns out that he is associated with ANTIFA (which there's no evidence to suggest that is the case) so what?



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: 2hooitconcerns
a reply to: hillbilly4rent

According to some news agencies he had converted to Islam a month or so ago


Sources?



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: HeadCrunchMcRockGroin

Even if it turns out that he is associated with ANTIFA (which there's no evidence to suggest that is the case) so what?


You know damn well if he is associated with a Trump SuperPAC, there won't be many "so what"s being lobbed around.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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ISIS claiming responsibility. They say he converted to Islam several months ago. They provide no evidence for these claims.


The Associated Press‏Verified account @AP 13m13 minutes ago More BREAKING: Without providing evidence, Islamic State claims Las Vegas attack, says shooter converted to Islam months ago.

twitter.com...

His brother says he knew his brother to have a couple hand guns and maybe one long rifle. He moved him to Vegas and said he would have known. He wonders where the hell he got all the guns.
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posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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What a tragedy, I feel for those in Las Vegas and their families, how terrifying. : (

Makes you wonder if metal detectors will become the norm at all hotels in areas like this, close to crowds. But someone shouldn't be able to make multiple trips to their room with heavy guns and it be completely unnoticed. If our country allows guns, as our population (and therefor the # of crazy folks who can get guns) increases, you need to prepare for this sort of thing.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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Fox news saying Isis claimed responsibility.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: 2hooitconcerns
a reply to: hillbilly4rent

According to some news agencies he had converted to Islam a month or so ago


Sources?


Fox just reported it live, don't have a link.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:30 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Diabolical1972

originally posted by: Bhadhidar
So, this supposed “nut job” was found to have as many as 10 rifles in his 32nd floor hotel room, yet the police have reported that he only used one rifle in his attack, re-loading it as many as three times during the attack.

Why bring so many weapons (and one would assume, the ammo for said weapons, otherwise WTF?) if you only intend to use one of them, and then kill your self?

And,

The police are saying that the shooter was found dead when they breached his room, of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

MSM shrinks are claiming that this typical behavior for “lone-wolf” style shooters.

But, again, if Paddock intended to kill himself after firing off three clips from just one of the ten weapons in his possession,

Why even bother about bringing the other guns?

OK, I’ll go full tinfoil here:

Did he really kill himself, or did someone else do the deed and leave before the SWAT team arrived?



Now that seems more plausible. He was already dead, and the real shooter or shooters left the scene before the swat arrived. No way was this only one shooter.


I guess it is even possible that this guy was kidnapped and placed in that room - shot after the shooting started - and left as the patsy whilst others escaped. All conjecture of course, but I'm having a hard time understanding how this guy could do so much damage - though some people on this thread with significantly more knowledge of guns than I do say it is possible.



He had to have a long barrel.

It seems there were clusters of casualties. Like what witnesses say about near the stage.

An uzi/short barrel wouldn't hit like that at that range. It would hit all over the area.

There were 22,000+ people in the target area he was shooting at.

I've shot a plastic Mac something auto, 2 1/2 in barrel, 32 9mm shot mag and couldn't hit a target at 25yds. First time shooting it.

Good for cleaning out a room, tho.

But we'll see what they say he had used, eventually.




posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:30 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: HeadCrunchMcRockGroin

Even if it turns out that he is associated with ANTIFA (which there's no evidence to suggest that is the case) so what?


IF it turns out he was then it would be incredibly important in the investigation to determine whether there was any help with funding and planning. Those involved would also be guilty of aiding and abetting a mass murder and would need to be found so as to stop them doing it again. Same goes if he were acting on behalf of any group or had any help from other individuals.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:31 AM
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I know we don't know much and
mental illness is quite real but that was
an exceptional act of COWARDICE.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: EchoesInTime
ISIS claiming responsibility. They say he converted to Islam several months ago. They provide no evidence for these claims.

His brother says he knew his brother to have a couple hand guns and maybe one long rifle. He moved him to Vegas and said he would have known. He wonders where the hell he got all the guns.


I think they are full of crap. They make a claim to every shooting or tragedy of note that has occurred in the last few years.
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