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posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: Konduit

And it should have went over like a led balloon.

A black murderer specifically targeting white people and CNN, MSNBC, etc. continue to drone on about white supremacy.




posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: tiredoflooking

Doubtful the strobe had any bearing.

However, the location question is still a giant, gaping, monstrous question in my mind. I mean think about it...

There's two giant broken windows with a guy shooting a high powered rifle out of at least one of them, a security guard gets shot practically right outside his door...and it takes nearly an hour to determine what room number he's in?????

Perhaps someone has posted the answer to this question and I missed it, but how many minutes after the first shots was the room number known? Seems like it was pretty close to an hour (but I may be mistaken).



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: gps777
Here is a vantage point of some people in a bus stop in front of the Hotel away from all the carnage, they talk about seeing and hearing the glass being smashed out, with clear sound of the gun shots, after all the auto firing, oddly i heard a single gun shot then silence and thought this was the one that he use on himself or someone else shot him, but a short time after that there is another single shot?

A bus for some reason is allowed into that zone passed police and they get on, telling the bus driver there is a shooter and telling the people not to get off.





Those 2 single shots are a big deal! The official story is that he shot himself. So, did he try once and miss himself? Had to shoot himself a second time? Hmmmmmmm.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:16 AM
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What's the problem with the "he's a lefty loony" theory? Is it really any crazier than other theories that are going around?



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

It's not really a big mystery. That hour was spent evacuating and securing the floor. At that point he had stopped firing. So while they had a window they wanted to get as many innocents away as possible before engaging. Why rush in and put more lives at risk?



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:19 AM
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originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: gps777
Here is a vantage point of some people in a bus stop in front of the Hotel away from all the carnage, they talk about seeing and hearing the glass being smashed out, with clear sound of the gun shots, after all the auto firing, oddly i heard a single gun shot then silence and thought this was the one that he use on himself or someone else shot him, but a short time after that there is another single shot?

A bus for some reason is allowed into that zone passed police and they get on, telling the bus driver there is a shooter and telling the people not to get off.




The separate shots later may have been the shooter firing through the door when he shot the security guard.


But the official story is that he fired 200 rounds into the hall at the security guard....



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:28 AM
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posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

The only thing "military in nature" about these rounds is they are also used my the military, specifically 5.56.
These are high velocity rounds that are small (think .22 cal) with a lot of powder behind them. There is VERY minor recoil felt in a long gun, and even less so with a Bump Stock, as the recoil is expended moving the rifle back and forth, causing the simulated full auto fire rate.

As to the age, I most recently went shooting with a 74 year old friend of the family, and he shot AR15s all day long, from both bench rest with a bipod, and shoulder braced.

This guys age factors exactly 0 into whether or not he was capable of doing this.
It's a dead end rabbit hole.

edit on 5-10-2017 by comawhite12 because: mispelling



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

It's not really a big mystery. That hour was spent evacuating and securing the floor.


Yeah, let's evacuate everyone out of the building into the line of fire when we have no confirmation of anything at all. Sounds like a good plan to me!


At that point he had stopped firing.


They had absolutely ZERO confirmation "he" wasn't a "they" (and still don't frankly, although I'm not advocating this notion)


So while they had a window they wanted to get as many innocents away as possible before engaging.

Why rush in and put more lives at risk?


While I can somewhat understand the desire to maybe evacuate the immediate area around where they were going to blow the door, I cannot understand (nor accept) the value of evacuating every floor of the hotel before taking out the suspect, or suspects. Or, at least minimally verifying that they weren't actually sending people into harms way as opposed to making them safer.

Frankly, I think this is just a ruse being used as an excuse to explain away the delay in getting SWAT on the scene. In my mind it was more like..."Gee, while we're all standing around twiddling our thumbs waiting for SWAT to show up, how about we go evacuate some people out of the area?"


edit on 10/5/2017 by Flyingclaydisk because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
The shooter supposedly committed suicide before law enforcement entered. I am curious about the specifics of that suicide now.


You would know this better than I would X. Everything in the picture of the shooter's suicide looks okay except for the blood stain on his chest. Every time I look at the picture that is where my eyes are drawn. That stain or wound makes no sense to me if he stuck the barrel in his mouth.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire
It's pretty sad how people say that there is a "cover-up," and we shouldn't trust the FBI, but people want me to believe ISIS's claim in which they're responsible for the shooting.

People have more faith and believe what IS says as opposed to the FBI.


First of all LOTS of ppl believe ISIS is the fbi or some letter agency.

Second nobody is asking you to believe anything. Everyone here is just throwing around ideas.

Third there is great reason not to trust the fbi narrative from everything they have lied about in the past!! All of the conspiracies they have been complicit with. History tends to repeat itself!

Fourth this is a conspiracy website not a support site for law enforcement. This site gained it's basis in seeing through the msm agenda and calling out the mic for covering up time and time again!



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: tiredoflooking

Doubtful the strobe had any bearing.

However, the location question is still a giant, gaping, monstrous question in my mind. I mean think about it...

There's two giant broken windows with a guy shooting a high powered rifle out of at least one of them, a security guard gets shot practically right outside his door...and it takes nearly an hour to determine what room number he's in?????

Perhaps someone has posted the answer to this question and I missed it, but how many minutes after the first shots was the room number known? Seems like it was pretty close to an hour (but I may be mistaken).





This part of the story bothers me too. It shouldn't have been difficult to quickly narrow down where the fire was coming from, from the rooms and people near his floor. Right?? Wouldn't the noise from the gunfire be incredibly loud to the rooms nearby?



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:40 AM
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originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: gps777
Here is a vantage point of some people in a bus stop in front of the Hotel away from all the carnage, they talk about seeing and hearing the glass being smashed out, with clear sound of the gun shots, after all the auto firing, oddly i heard a single gun shot then silence and thought this was the one that he use on himself or someone else shot him, but a short time after that there is another single shot?

A bus for some reason is allowed into that zone passed police and they get on, telling the bus driver there is a shooter and telling the people not to get off.




The separate shots later may have been the shooter firing through the door when he shot the security guard.


But the official story is that he fired 200 rounds into the hall at the security guard....


IS that really the official story?
I dont remember any of the press conferences stating that.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:43 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

It's not really a big mystery. That hour was spent evacuating and securing the floor. ?


An HOUR? Why did it take an HOUR to evacuate and secure the floor?



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk




I cannot understand (nor accept) the value of evacuating every floor of the hotel before taking out the suspect, or suspects. Or, at least minimally verifying that they weren't actually sending people into harms way as opposed to making them safer.

At that point, they didn't know if the shooter could have had a bomb in the building. That would be a valid reason to evacuate, especially since the shooting had stopped.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: tiredoflooking

And I would add...

Sadly, ISIS seldom lies about claiming responsibility (even though I don't believe them this time). They don't want to lose credibility for what they actually really do...do. A while back there was an pretty well researched paper published on this. I'll have to see if I can find it again. It was actually pretty interesting. It went into great detail about how they vet the various acts within the different factions to make sure one faction isn't trying to steal another one's thunder and so forth. It was almost like a code of honor among murderers.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:46 AM
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originally posted by: aliensanonymous

originally posted by: Diabolical1972
TSA Scanners coming to a hotel near you soon.


Guests Scanned at the Wynn in Glimpse of Las Vegas’s Future.



At entrances to the Wynn resort in Las Vegas on Monday afternoon, guards scanned visitors with metal-detector wands and inspected their bags, creating a 10-minute wait to get inside. The new security protocol, put in place after Sunday’s mass shooting nearby, is likely to become the norm on the Strip and possibly beyond.


As stated earlier in the post scaning benefits security and military firms, recouping some finacial losses incurred by eventually changing gun laws. Possibly a multi purpose operation. Expect instalation at entries to all hotels, casinos and concerts coupled with bio-metric data scanning.


I fear this is the "global" purpose of this entire operation. This is following the money. What company had these items ready and waiting to set up the next day after this? What company stands to profit from all of these many installations? Someone mentioned the company in an earlier thread.

So who has investment in such a company...trump casino/ hotels? Family of Paddock? George Soros? I'm just guessing but following that trail in the coming years might provide some answers...



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

It's not really a big mystery. That hour was spent evacuating and securing the floor. ?


An HOUR? Why did it take an HOUR to evacuate and secure the floor?

Hard to tell what they may have encountered when going room to room.
Passed out naked people.
Drunk people.
Angry people that were very unhappy because they were just about to reach a climactic moment with a person that they met in the bar an hour earlier.
Handicapped people that needed assistance evacuating.
Deaf people that didn't hear shouts and knocks at the door.

All while wondering if the next door that they knocked on would be when the bullets would be flying back at them.
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posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Where did I say they were evacuating the entire hotel. They wanted to clear the floor he was on and probably surrounding floors as well. That way if a firefight did ensue the risk of a civilian being hit by a stray round is minimized. The other thing you have to remember is that SWAT didn't have any idea what he may have rigged up. All they knew is that there were wires coming out from his room. For all they knew they could have been rigged to explosives.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: gps777
Here is a vantage point of some people in a bus stop in front of the Hotel away from all the carnage, they talk about seeing and hearing the glass being smashed out, with clear sound of the gun shots, after all the auto firing, oddly i heard a single gun shot then silence and thought this was the one that he use on himself or someone else shot him, but a short time after that there is another single shot?

A bus for some reason is allowed into that zone passed police and they get on, telling the bus driver there is a shooter and telling the people not to get off.




The separate shots later may have been the shooter firing through the door when he shot the security guard.


But the official story is that he fired 200 rounds into the hall at the security guard....


IS that really the official story?
I dont remember any of the press conferences stating that.


You're right....I am being sloppy there. I've read that 200-rounds-into-the-hall thing several times in this thread and others, but I don't remember from where that info originated....and I'm too lazy to go back and check at the moment. Perpetuating the rumors without backup....bad girl. Thank you for pointing it out



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