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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
Being an arms dealer might explain how he became so wealthy and could wire 100000 so easily.. right? Makes sense all those guns in the room ammo.. who came up with the arms dealer angle??? Now it makes sense.


It originated from an anonymous poster claiming to be an FBI agent, if memory serves correctly.

He became wealthy from real estate and gambling.


Hold on, I am fairly sure the anon poster claimed to be LVMPD not FBI, right? They said FBI were leaning on them to hush.



From the video posted a page back


An unproven theory currently being circulated by someone claiming to be an FBI agent


Who knows. Every piece of information is contradicted, and each contradicted piece of information is contradicted.




posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:18 PM
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originally posted by: tonycodes
a reply to: abeverage

did you see a muzzle flash from the 32nd floor?


No what I saw and wrote about HERE no other windows out however there easily could have been 2 shooters on Floor 32!



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:18 PM
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a reply to: Indrasweb

If you're correct, that was the best save from a Freudian slip-up in history!!!!!

The MSM would have had a field day with that statement!!! Would have been the headline on every newswire worldwide within minutes!

I think you may well be right too.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
Being an arms dealer might explain how he became so wealthy and could wire 100000 so easily.. right? Makes sense all those guns in the room ammo.. who came up with the arms dealer angle??? Now it makes sense.


It originated from an anonymous poster claiming to be an FBI agent, if memory serves correctly.

He became wealthy from real estate and gambling.


Based on his brothers stories about comps and such he was losing more money than making. He was a whale he liked to go through cash


We don't know that.


Brother mentioned thousands of dollars at fusion restraint at the Wynn I’m presuming was Andrea’s being comped. He also details that Steve’s credit card statements would verify with only a tip... one of the hottest restaurants in all of vegas. You have to lose money to be treated that nice. His brother also mentioned having the highest tier of vip cards at all the casinos. He also mentions being able to just walk in and be comped rooms for weeks. That all adds up to what the industry calls a whale.


Like I said - we don't know that.
We're speculating based off of what Eric Paddock was said regarding his brother.

If he's a regular VIP at casinos - why make arm deals with ISIS their as an undercover FBI agent?

Hiding in plain sight is the only conclusion I can come to, and it seems like a reach (imo).

There's still much to be known regarding this.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
Being an arms dealer might explain how he became so wealthy and could wire 100000 so easily.. right? Makes sense all those guns in the room ammo.. who came up with the arms dealer angle??? Now it makes sense.


It originated from an anonymous poster claiming to be an FBI agent, if memory serves correctly.

He became wealthy from real estate and gambling.


Hold on, I am fairly sure the anon poster claimed to be LVMPD not FBI, right? They said FBI were leaning on them to hush.



From the video posted a page back


An unproven theory currently being circulated by someone claiming to be an FBI agent


Who knows. Every piece of information is contradicted, and each contradicted piece of information is contradicted.


No I know what the video said, but I also know what the 4chan original said. I posted it here lol.




posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
Being an arms dealer might explain how he became so wealthy and could wire 100000 so easily.. right? Makes sense all those guns in the room ammo.. who came up with the arms dealer angle??? Now it makes sense.


It originated from an anonymous poster claiming to be an FBI agent, if memory serves correctly.

He became wealthy from real estate and gambling.


Based on his brothers stories about comps and such he was losing more money than making. He was a whale he liked to go through cash


We don't know that.


Brother mentioned thousands of dollars at fusion restraint at the Wynn I’m presuming was Andrea’s being comped. He also details that Steve’s credit card statements would verify with only a tip... one of the hottest restaurants in all of vegas. You have to lose money to be treated that nice. His brother also mentioned having the highest tier of vip cards at all the casinos. He also mentions being able to just walk in and be comped rooms for weeks. That all adds up to what the industry calls a whale.


Like I said - we don't know that.
We're speculating based off of what Eric Paddock was said regarding his brother.

If he's a regular VIP at casinos - why make arm deals with ISIS their as an undercover FBI agent?

Hiding in plain sight is the only conclusion I can come to, and it seems like a reach (imo).

There's still much to be known regarding this.


I never mentioned arms deal. I think that is the most unlikely scenario. I was just mentioning his spending habits which all prove to line up.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
Being an arms dealer might explain how he became so wealthy and could wire 100000 so easily.. right? Makes sense all those guns in the room ammo.. who came up with the arms dealer angle??? Now it makes sense.


It originated from an anonymous poster claiming to be an FBI agent, if memory serves correctly.

He became wealthy from real estate and gambling.


Hold on, I am fairly sure the anon poster claimed to be LVMPD not FBI, right? They said FBI were leaning on them to hush.



From the video posted a page back


An unproven theory currently being circulated by someone claiming to be an FBI agent


Who knows. Every piece of information is contradicted, and each contradicted piece of information is contradicted.


No I know what the video said, but I also know what the 4chan original said. I posted it here lol.



So have contradictory statements on who leaked the "IS/FBI arms dealing," angle, then.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: AdemirAlagic

Correct. Moste of the guns used would probably very close to the Windows he was shooting from. The loaded rifles would also be stacked ready to go by the Windows.

If he planned all of this to the last detail there would be a system to this.

This looks more like a hit and run seen.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Indrasweb

If you're correct, that was the best save from a Freudian slip-up in history!!!!!

The MSM would have had a field day with that statement!!! Would have been the headline on every newswire worldwide within minutes!

I think you may well be right too.




It would have been absolutely incredible I imagine (in a bad way). I think he probably saved himself a world of hurt there...
Interesting you should term it a 'Freudian slip'. I kind of had the same thought; that obviously what his brother has done is uppermost in his mind, he'll be going over and over it, from some of the things he said in the interview I get the impression he's been reading the news a lot online and soaking up all the reports (including the speculations, hence his somewhat combative attitude during the presser) and, I guess, army of one is a perfect label for both the brother he knew (single minded, self sufficient etc) and the loony with the arsenal of weapons gunning people down... I think it's (potentially) just an interesting little insight into how our brains can conjure up connections, and how our unconscious thoughts can bleed into our conscious behaviours and influence such things as phraseology...
Regardless, he certainly dodged a bullet (Freudian slip intended)...



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: AdemirAlagic

originally posted by: Diabolical1972
a reply to: RadioRobert

Don't forget to mention he had TWO cars left in the lot, ONLY 1 with A-Nitrate residue. So where is the rest of the BOMB?



It's looking more and more likely someone killed this guy staged the crime scene and then sprayed into the crowd to make it look like he went crazy


It was his GF ex-husband.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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I just don't like to see these small changes that don't appear to be true. I don't believe it was an FBI anon but rather a Las Vegas Metro PD officer (claimed). Muddying the waters once again.

From the thread on 4chan entitled "f*** the FBI here's what happened LVMPD"


The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders.


The us doesn't refer to FBI at all I don't think.

LVMPD /pol thread archive


edit on 4-10-2017 by Jonjonj because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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Does anyone have a source for the girlfriend being a CIA agent?

It was mentioned a few pages back, I just went back and read through the pages and there are no citations/sources for this.

I just got home and can't find anything about it. Where did this claim originate from? Can someone point me to a source? I'm genuinely curious.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:31 PM
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originally posted by: Indrasweb

originally posted by: Diabolical1972
a reply to: RadioRobert

Don't forget to mention he had TWO cars left in the lot, ONLY 1 with A-Nitrate residue. So where is the rest of the BOMB?



I am curious about the two cars actually. I know he didn't live a long distance away but... how did he get both his cars there? Drive one, get a ? (Bus maybe?) back home and collect the second vehicle? For what purpose?


I asked earlier in the thread about video of his checking in, to see him transporting his luggage, I wonder if there's cameras where the cars were parked.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: RomeByFire

The source is 4chan unfortunately .
It was a add on to the Newsweek article talking about her two social security numbers



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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So do you have to be in good shape to unload automatic rounds for 10 minutes? BC the MSM has been reporting all day he was becoming crazy and skinny and frail.

EDIT- quote from article thats been on most of MSM now suddenly moved down the pages in google

"In the months before his deadly rampage, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock was a man “descending into madness,” according to a person briefed on new findings in the investigation.

More details are emerging, investigators say, that suggest Paddock’s mental state was deteriorating before the shooting — significant weight loss, an increasingly slovenly physical appearance and an obsession with his girlfriend’s ex-husband."
edit on 4-10-2017 by tonycodes because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: antibren

that video says 10 firearms, there was 23. They also said 50 firearms in total between the hotel and his place.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: tonycodes
So do you have to be in good shape to unload automatic rounds for 10 minutes? BC the MSM has been reporting all day he was becoming crazy and skinny and frail.


Brother did casually mention that he had a knee problem among other things



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:36 PM
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originally posted by: CajunMetal

originally posted by: Indrasweb

originally posted by: Diabolical1972
a reply to: RadioRobert

Don't forget to mention he had TWO cars left in the lot, ONLY 1 with A-Nitrate residue. So where is the rest of the BOMB?



I am curious about the two cars actually. I know he didn't live a long distance away but... how did he get both his cars there? Drive one, get a ? (Bus maybe?) back home and collect the second vehicle? For what purpose?


I asked earlier in the thread about video of his checking in, to see him transporting his luggage, I wonder if there's cameras where the cars were parked.


You would think he may well need two vehicles for 10 suitcases (depending on the vehicles I suppose. Do we know what he was driving? I can't remember what the sheriff said when they initially put out the two plates.. also... if they put out the plates via the media that would suggest they weren't in the casino parking as they'd have checked there immediately... did we ever hear where they found them?). If he did have the suitcases in two vehicles then did he have a driver for the second vehicle or make a trip home and back again with the second vehicle??

So many questions and so few answers...



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: Indrasweb

originally posted by: CajunMetal

originally posted by: Indrasweb

originally posted by: Diabolical1972
a reply to: RadioRobert

Don't forget to mention he had TWO cars left in the lot, ONLY 1 with A-Nitrate residue. So where is the rest of the BOMB?



I am curious about the two cars actually. I know he didn't live a long distance away but... how did he get both his cars there? Drive one, get a ? (Bus maybe?) back home and collect the second vehicle? For what purpose?


I asked earlier in the thread about video of his checking in, to see him transporting his luggage, I wonder if there's cameras where the cars were parked.


You would think he may well need two vehicles for 10 suitcases (depending on the vehicles I suppose. Do we know what he was driving? I can't remember what the sheriff said when they initially put out the two plates.. also... if they put out the plates via the media that would suggest they weren't in the casino parking as they'd have checked there immediately... did we ever hear where they found them?). If he did have the suitcases in two vehicles then did he have a driver for the second vehicle or make a trip home and back again with the second vehicle??

So many questions and so few answers...



One of the plate was the gf before they found her. I don’t remember the other one?



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: Jonjonj
I just don't like to see these small changes that don't appear to be true. I don't believe it an FBI anon. Muddying the waters once again.

From the thread on 4chan entitled "f*** the FBI here's what happened LVMPD"


The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders.


The us doesn't refer to FBI at all I don't think.

LVMPD /pol thread archive

:up


It's sloppy, but I wouldn't expect anything less from anonymous 4chan users making claims.

I don't put much stock on 4chan posters for being objective and truth seekers.

Reading the comments makes my head hurt.



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