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originally posted by: Indrasweb
originally posted by: Krakatoa
originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: Krakatoa
He tried to explain the arm a few seconds later.
He apologizes and then says he was trying to use a coloquial term about armed forces. Didn't make sense.
Very sketchy. Busted.
Yeah, I just finished watching that entire video. I believe he was about to say that "Steve was an army-of-one", but stopped as not to disparage members of the armed forces. If you recall, the marketing slogan for the U.S. Army was something along the lines of "Be an Army of One". That, IMO, is what he was about to say at that point. But, considering the situation, he thought better of it out of thoughtfulness.
That is how I interpreted that stumble on his part.
Funnily enough I just edited my previous post to say exactly that too.. I didn't realise it was some kind of a recruitment slogan as well. Makes sense why he said it might be insulting to armed forces in that case. I was thinking he'd maybe stopped short of saying it because of what his brother had just done (which pretty much was being an army of one) but when you add in the recruitment slogan angle and him saying he didn't want to insult some branches of the armed services it makes it quite likely that that's what he was about to say
originally posted by: CynConcepts
originally posted by: RomeByFire
originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
After spending 36hrs reading non stop till my eyes bled, I am curious as to others' take on the fact that he checked himself into a hotel where he was very well known, made no attempt to disguise or hide the fact he was there, ordered room service and generally acted all normal.
My thoughts are if you were about to carry out mass murder, would you really do it at a place where you were so well known? Where you were a regular and staff knew you? Using your well known gf's casino card? Carrying out such an act in a place where you are so well known seems foolish in the extreme as clearly there would be no way he could have gotten away with it even presuming he had an escape plan. He would be very easily traceable. No-one from the hotel or anywhere else has mentioned Paddock seeming out of sorts acting strange or similar. Either he knew full well he didn't stand a chance in hell of getting out and getting away with it or...
he thought he was there for some other reason......
Somebody somewhere was calling in plenty of false alarms to confuse police and make the situation far more chaotic. This smacks of being orchestrated to this old lady
he was very well known, made no attempt to disguise or hide the fact he was there, ordered room service and generally acted all normal.
Hiding in plain sight?
You make a good point - it's not like he was just some dude who went to Vegas on a whim to gamble. He was a regular.
IMO, that takes away from him being an undercover-FBI agent who runs guns for IS.
Unless, like I said, hiding in plain sight.
I just don't know. Everyone and their dog's pet goldfish have an opinion.
My pet gold fish aside, I am still trying to form an opinion. One thing I am curious about is why are we hearing so much from Eric and not more from Bruce? Bruce, his other brother, lives in California I believe, would he not have more contact than his Florida brother? The media has no scruples when it comes to harassing family obviously...Why are we not hearing more from the brother who only lived one state away?
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
Has anyone heard of this angle yet? The video suggests that this was a gun running scheme gone wrong. FBI agent is selling guns to isis members, they find out (that he is fbi) and kill him, then do the shooting in retaliation. The cameras setup in the hallway and room would be something you would do if involved in an operation like this. Could explain why so many weapons. Either way just another video.
Wow I just watched this and was going to comment can we get a source for that version of the Aussies statement? He seems to have very accurate account? Is he still in America?
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
Has anyone heard of this angle yet? The video suggests that this was a gun running scheme gone wrong. FBI agent is selling guns to isis members, they find out (that he is fbi) and kill him, then do the shooting in retaliation. The cameras setup in the hallway and room would be something you would do if involved in an operation like this. Could explain why so many weapons. Either way just another video.
originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
Being an arms dealer might explain how he became so wealthy and could wire 100000 so easily.. right? Makes sense all those guns in the room ammo.. who came up with the arms dealer angle??? Now it makes sense.
originally posted by: RomeByFire
originally posted by: CynConcepts
originally posted by: RomeByFire
originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
After spending 36hrs reading non stop till my eyes bled, I am curious as to others' take on the fact that he checked himself into a hotel where he was very well known, made no attempt to disguise or hide the fact he was there, ordered room service and generally acted all normal.
My thoughts are if you were about to carry out mass murder, would you really do it at a place where you were so well known? Where you were a regular and staff knew you? Using your well known gf's casino card? Carrying out such an act in a place where you are so well known seems foolish in the extreme as clearly there would be no way he could have gotten away with it even presuming he had an escape plan. He would be very easily traceable. No-one from the hotel or anywhere else has mentioned Paddock seeming out of sorts acting strange or similar. Either he knew full well he didn't stand a chance in hell of getting out and getting away with it or...
he thought he was there for some other reason......
Somebody somewhere was calling in plenty of false alarms to confuse police and make the situation far more chaotic. This smacks of being orchestrated to this old lady
he was very well known, made no attempt to disguise or hide the fact he was there, ordered room service and generally acted all normal.
Hiding in plain sight?
You make a good point - it's not like he was just some dude who went to Vegas on a whim to gamble. He was a regular.
IMO, that takes away from him being an undercover-FBI agent who runs guns for IS.
Unless, like I said, hiding in plain sight.
I just don't know. Everyone and their dog's pet goldfish have an opinion.
My pet gold fish aside, I am still trying to form an opinion. One thing I am curious about is why are we hearing so much from Eric and not more from Bruce? Bruce, his other brother, lives in California I believe, would he not have more contact than his Florida brother? The media has no scruples when it comes to harassing family obviously...Why are we not hearing more from the brother who only lived one state away?
Ill be honest - first time I've heard of Bruce. I wasn't even aware he had another brother.
That is definitely something worth noting.
originally posted by: RomeByFire
originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
Being an arms dealer might explain how he became so wealthy and could wire 100000 so easily.. right? Makes sense all those guns in the room ammo.. who came up with the arms dealer angle??? Now it makes sense.
It originated from an anonymous poster claiming to be an FBI agent, if memory serves correctly.
He became wealthy from real estate and gambling.
I think his point he was trying to make with that slogan was that his brother, when he put his mind to something, would just do it, whatever it takes....and keep on until he succeeded.
originally posted by: antibren
originally posted by: RomeByFire
originally posted by: CynConcepts
originally posted by: RomeByFire
originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
After spending 36hrs reading non stop till my eyes bled, I am curious as to others' take on the fact that he checked himself into a hotel where he was very well known, made no attempt to disguise or hide the fact he was there, ordered room service and generally acted all normal.
My thoughts are if you were about to carry out mass murder, would you really do it at a place where you were so well known? Where you were a regular and staff knew you? Using your well known gf's casino card? Carrying out such an act in a place where you are so well known seems foolish in the extreme as clearly there would be no way he could have gotten away with it even presuming he had an escape plan. He would be very easily traceable. No-one from the hotel or anywhere else has mentioned Paddock seeming out of sorts acting strange or similar. Either he knew full well he didn't stand a chance in hell of getting out and getting away with it or...
he thought he was there for some other reason......
Somebody somewhere was calling in plenty of false alarms to confuse police and make the situation far more chaotic. This smacks of being orchestrated to this old lady
he was very well known, made no attempt to disguise or hide the fact he was there, ordered room service and generally acted all normal.
Hiding in plain sight?
You make a good point - it's not like he was just some dude who went to Vegas on a whim to gamble. He was a regular.
IMO, that takes away from him being an undercover-FBI agent who runs guns for IS.
Unless, like I said, hiding in plain sight.
I just don't know. Everyone and their dog's pet goldfish have an opinion.
My pet gold fish aside, I am still trying to form an opinion. One thing I am curious about is why are we hearing so much from Eric and not more from Bruce? Bruce, his other brother, lives in California I believe, would he not have more contact than his Florida brother? The media has no scruples when it comes to harassing family obviously...Why are we not hearing more from the brother who only lived one state away?
Ill be honest - first time I've heard of Bruce. I wasn't even aware he had another brother.
That is definitely something worth noting.
Brother talks about mother raising four kids.. so he has two other brother right?
originally posted by: antibren
originally posted by: RomeByFire
originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
Being an arms dealer might explain how he became so wealthy and could wire 100000 so easily.. right? Makes sense all those guns in the room ammo.. who came up with the arms dealer angle??? Now it makes sense.
It originated from an anonymous poster claiming to be an FBI agent, if memory serves correctly.
He became wealthy from real estate and gambling.
Based on his brothers stories about comps and such he was losing more money than making. He was a whale he liked to go through cash
originally posted by: Diabolical1972
a reply to: RadioRobert
Don't forget to mention he had TWO cars left in the lot, ONLY 1 with A-Nitrate residue. So where is the rest of the BOMB?
originally posted by: Diabolical1972
a reply to: RadioRobert
Don't forget to mention he had TWO cars left in the lot, ONLY 1 with A-Nitrate residue. So where is the rest of the BOMB?
originally posted by: RomeByFire
originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
Being an arms dealer might explain how he became so wealthy and could wire 100000 so easily.. right? Makes sense all those guns in the room ammo.. who came up with the arms dealer angle??? Now it makes sense.
It originated from an anonymous poster claiming to be an FBI agent, if memory serves correctly.
He became wealthy from real estate and gambling.
originally posted by: diggindirt
a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport
Good points about his being well known and checking in ....
However---on the false reports---that can happen with any emergency situation. A few years ago we had a situation where a girl called the campus police to report an active shooter on campus. She had "seen" him.
What she actually saw, when questioned by the police later was a guy carrying what she "thought" looked like a rifle case into the student center. What she actually saw was a guy with a pool cue in a case entering the student center. After her call there were five more calls reporting a shooter on campus. No shots were ever fired because there was no gun. Pool cues don't discharge bullets. Why did five other people report something that obviously didn't happen? I have no idea...but they did. Why did she report an "active shooter" when all she'd seen was a guy with a long skinny case walking into the student center? God help her if she'd actually seen a member of the rifle team entering their practice facility with a real gun.
originally posted by: RomeByFire
originally posted by: antibren
originally posted by: RomeByFire
originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
Being an arms dealer might explain how he became so wealthy and could wire 100000 so easily.. right? Makes sense all those guns in the room ammo.. who came up with the arms dealer angle??? Now it makes sense.
It originated from an anonymous poster claiming to be an FBI agent, if memory serves correctly.
He became wealthy from real estate and gambling.
Based on his brothers stories about comps and such he was losing more money than making. He was a whale he liked to go through cash
We don't know that.