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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Regarding the shooter's body position and other objects (guns, etc.) nearby...
I think a lot of people are overlooking one key element. The killer appears to have fallen face down, and police likely rolled him over and kicked weapons which may have been near his hands away after they gained entry. This would be done as a precaution (and also to check for signs of life). Consequently, I'm not sure how much stock you can put in the location of items, body included, in the picture(s).
originally posted by: worsaw
Hi all, first post here. I have a question. If the shooter fired for about 10 mins and then nothing right? So why would he kill himself after only 10 mins when there was no threat to him at that point? The cops didnt bust in for another hour. Seems odd that he would shoot for 10 mins then suddenly off himself. Weird.
Secondly for those who are interested. There is video out now of the aftermath. It is pretty graphic as it shows some guy going around checking on victims to see if they alive or dead. Its pretty tough to watch so be warned. Im not going to post a link but its out there for those who care
originally posted by: antibren
originally posted by: worsaw
Hi all, first post here. I have a question. If the shooter fired for about 10 mins and then nothing right? So why would he kill himself after only 10 mins when there was no threat to him at that point? The cops didnt bust in for another hour. Seems odd that he would shoot for 10 mins then suddenly off himself. Weird.
Secondly for those who are interested. There is video out now of the aftermath. It is pretty graphic as it shows some guy going around checking on victims to see if they alive or dead. Its pretty tough to watch so be warned. Im not going to post a link but its out there for those who care
Welcome,
He shot a security guard at the 14min mark so what happens after that and the hour later till breach is the giant question. We have heard no timeline for the suicide
Edit: that video was posted and Almost immediately removed as it is pretty tasteless.. and he also set does more harm than good
originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
That extra order was probably for his handler or whatever FBI agent was pushing this guy to commit this act.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: antibren
From the timelines I've seen police arrived right around the same time he stopped shooting. They then spent the next hour or so evacuating and securing the floor. My guess is he offed himself shortly after the cops arrived. I'm also guessing that if he had started firing again SWAT would have breached at that time. But as long as there was no immediate threat the smart move was to get as many people out of the area as possible before engaging.
originally posted by: SonOfThor
a reply to: antibren
Does anyone have a link to the most recent press conference? Or know when the next will be?
I'm so swamped at work I've barely been able to keep up with the updates...
originally posted by: antibren
originally posted by: worsaw
Hi all, first post here. I have a question. If the shooter fired for about 10 mins and then nothing right? So why would he kill himself after only 10 mins when there was no threat to him at that point? The cops didnt bust in for another hour. Seems odd that he would shoot for 10 mins then suddenly off himself. Weird.
Secondly for those who are interested. There is video out now of the aftermath. It is pretty graphic as it shows some guy going around checking on victims to see if they alive or dead. Its pretty tough to watch so be warned. Im not going to post a link but its out there for those who care
Welcome,
He shot a security guard at the 14min mark so what happens after that and the hour later till breach is the giant question. We have heard no timeline for the suicide
Edit: that video was posted and Almost immediately removed as it is pretty tasteless.. and he also seems to do more harm than good
But as long as there was no immediate threat the smart move was to get as many people out of the area as possible before engaging.