Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

a reply to: Krakatoa

The securityguard was shot one hour before the SWAT team was ready at the location.

The securityguard acted on his own. That is stated by the police.

a reply to: dragonridr

Negative. Nobody was in the stairwell for more than 30 minutes after the security guard got shot in the leg. They did not reach the stairwells until later.

originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: Phage

All they have is a dead body and a bunsh of guns and ammo in a hotellrom.

They cant prove he was alive when the shooting took place.

There Are no evidence he did the shooting. The only evidence is a dead body in the hotellrom.

They will test for GSR, I'm sure.

Saw that on CSI.

You know what should really get your attention? The differences...

www.usatoday.com...

“We’ll also need the 29th floor. It sounds like it’s confirmed that there are at least two shooters with fully automatic weapons.” (Editor's note: There was only one shooter on the scene, later identified as Stephen Paddock).

www.foxnews.com...

"We will need the 29th floor," the voice continues. "It sounds like there are at least two shooters with fully automatic weapons."

way end of his brothers video, that guy is a total plant.

Steve bought the boom stocks
Steve fired the weapon
That video going around where Steve fell on the floor in the casino, is when he fired that weapon and he was all bruised up.
You fire those weapons, there not fun.
Steve was highly intelligent. Ok That he is quick draw mcgraw with no help?
One man can mastermind this, than we should be very scared. Meaning??? What??
The MIB did this?

His brother had to work hard until his last 3 years, they said he was 64 right? That's when his brother struck it rich and his mother. So, he was 61 when brother quit working and moved to the high life, but still references taco bell when talks about 100,000 dollars.

I don't believe a word that guy is saying now.

Sad story at first about his mom and son, than vilifies his brother at the end???

yeah okay. Tell some other fool that believes only 1 person did this setup just like 9/11 fools.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: 0x6372756d6273

So according to this 4 officers where on the floor. I heard there was 2 in the stairwell so that would mean 3 to remain and 1 to help him down. So where do you think anyone could go? Elevator would have cameras and police in the stairwell. Unless they could fly or invisible they wernt going any where. You seem invested in this multi shooter theory but evidence doesnt support it

The room was planned. Why couldn't another room on the floor been booked as well?

originally posted by: 0x6372756d6273
a reply to: dragonridr

Negative. Nobody was in the stairwell for more than 30 minutes after the security guard got shot in the leg. They did not reach the stairwells until later.

Do you really believe hotel security didnt have cameras in elevators and stairwells? Have you ever been to a casino in your life? Now i hadnt heard a time for the officers in the stairwell. But let me ask this if in you own post they said they had a 4 man team on the floor do you think that they would just run off?

a reply to: dragonridr

I guess I have to post this again. Are you skipping ahead? I advise to start from my first post, then reread again.

www.mercurynews.com...

Yet The Associated Press found that 23 of the 27 major Strip casinos have no surveillance in hotel hallways or elevator landings.

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Only Caesars Palace, Planet Hollywood, the MGM Grand and Tropicana Las Vegas monitor the halls above the gambling floor.

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He said the woman’s assailant avoided cameras by taking the stairs.

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Again, the assailant used the stairs.

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These 23 major Las Vegas Strip hotels have no surveillance cameras in hotel hallways or elevator landings, an AP investigation found:
Aria
Bally’s Las Vegas
Bellagio
Circus Circus
The Cosmopolitan Las Vegas
Encore Las Vegas
Excalibur
Flamingo Las Vegas
Harrah’s Las Vegas
Luxor
Mandalay Bay
The Mirage
Monte Carlo
New York-New York
The Palazzo
Paris Las Vegas
Quad Resort & Casino
Rio All Suite Hotel and Casino
The Riviera
Treasure Island
Vdara
The Venetian
Wynn Las Vegas

People Keep Saying There Ist Evidence Of 2 Shooters... But...

Let's do the rundown shall we? I'm not saying there were 2 shooters, but...

1. Receipt shows 2 pop's purchased and a meal for 2 on day of shooting.

2. The room service cart he used to set up his camera on, hate played and settings for 2.

3. Multiple reports from victims and bystanders that claim to have heard more than 1 gunman.

4. Apparently police/swat transcripts from the team inside the building show they believed there to be more than 1 gunman.

5. 2 Windows busted open, each far apart with their own set ups.

6. 20+ guns found in the hotel room... for 1 person?

7. The time it took to hammer what is most likely thick safety/laminated glass... go relatively unnoticed with enough time to begin firing by himself.

8. Large time gap between when the shooter shot security guard and away it team.

9. "Shooter" killed himself.. after he set up cameras to get the jump on law enforcement for a fire fight..AFTER the security guard came by.

10. Cab driver video and close up stage video audio shows 2 different fire rates and locations sometimes

Put these all together and a 2 shooter theory almost makes more sense

a reply to: Lucidparadox
1. Plus two at a table, but assume it was supposed to mean room and he was just covering for using Marilou's info when she wasn't present? However: It was dated for the 27th on Weds. He was said to have checked in on Thurs.

Yet for some reason, Stephen Paddock apparently checked into his Las Vegas hotel room last Thursday

ABC

Full/halved image of the receipt:
Twitter from Pol

You think someone would go through all this planning and not plan an escape route?

Why do you assume the shooter wanted to die?

Is that because you are desensitized, and you are conditioned to think all mass murders end in suicide?

His own brother vilifies him in the end of the half hour video. I'm starting to believe the 2 man theory, and 4 man team.

61 one yr old
Brother claims


He owned and purchased the boom stocks
He fired the weapon, which made him fall on the floor of the casino
His mother and him striked it rich when he was 61
Says he himself has fired an automatic rifle (SMILES when doing it)
Can travel like it's no tomorrow, like it's just another day

His younger brother made a lot slips in that video

Maybe his brother is in on it? His brother also talks about his FAKE shoulder.

Where was his brother at the time of the SHOOTING?

originally posted by: 0x6372756d6273
a reply to: dragonridr

I guess I have to post this again. Are you skipping ahead? I advise to start from my first post, then reread again.

www.mercurynews.com...

Yet The Associated Press found that 23 of the 27 major Strip casinos have no surveillance in hotel hallways or elevator landings.

...

Only Caesars Palace, Planet Hollywood, the MGM Grand and Tropicana Las Vegas monitor the halls above the gambling floor.

...

He said the woman’s assailant avoided cameras by taking the stairs.

...

Again, the assailant used the stairs.

...

These 23 major Las Vegas Strip hotels have no surveillance cameras in hotel hallways or elevator landings, an AP investigation found:
Aria
Bally’s Las Vegas
Bellagio
Circus Circus
The Cosmopolitan Las Vegas
Encore Las Vegas
Excalibur
Flamingo Las Vegas
Harrah’s Las Vegas
Luxor
Mandalay Bay
The Mirage
Monte Carlo
New York-New York
The Palazzo
Paris Las Vegas
Quad Resort & Casino
Rio All Suite Hotel and Casino
The Riviera
Treasure Island
Vdara
The Venetian
Wynn Las Vegas

Stairwells and elevators are all ways covered by cameras. Mostly for guest security the stair wells would have one way doors. I made this mistake once at the mgm grand. I had to go to first floor to exit when i wanted the 4th floor spa. And when i got to the bottom security was there to ask for my room key. Your speculations are silly. The only possibility would have been if someone else had a room on the floor.

a reply to: dreamingawake

Don't forget, he rented room 32135 and 32134.

a reply to: dashen

I've been coming to this site for 5 years, love it... but only now have I felt the will to post. I had A LOT of friends at that concert. Friends of friends still missing. 😔...

From their first hand stories, I can tell you not one person thought the bullets 'were coming from a single location'... but does this mean there were multiple shooters? No. So I began looking at the glass from the outside in. Why did he need ALL those cameras? Why would you need 23 rifles? .... - unless the rifles couldn't be reloaded because they were being remotely controlled and his job was to simply pre-stage/setup everything. With GoPro and F-Book live now a days, I ask your opinion on my words above: .... is it possible the rifles were pre-aimed/staged and then controlled remotely? Their purpose being to empty a barrel each and not be reloaded? Who was watching through those cameras? Were they connected to the internet? And if so, has the IP's of who accessed them been traced? I have not seen anybody ask these questions. It sounds like a maid accidentally walked in on him, realized she had no time to tell authorities and went straight for the crowd to save as many as she could. He didn't have time to finish the job setting up, so he spontaniously took matters into his own hands and used whatever he had finished up until that point. The concert was supposed to go on for another few hours. I am willing to bet this could have been A LOT worse if ALL the rifles had been setup accordingly. This Marylou lady was out of the country, so I am confused as to how people are assuming she was the one warning the crowd??

..... and then I found this: (This is my first post so it won't let me post pictures or make a new thread. I know the rules of not sharing political in news. I didn't see anyone post this yet, feel free to repost the pics in a new thread for discussion so I can take them off my dropbox).

www.dropbox.com...

www.dropbox.com...


How did this guy afford these weapons? Yes he had money, but do the math and add up how much it cost between the riffles in the room, his house, tripods etc etc- don't forget to add up all the gear and small things people overlook.

I fear something really awful is happening in our country right now beyond just people acting crazy. The publics mental illnesses are being used as weapons of revenge. Being a politician sadly isn't about doing the right thing, it's about sorting the puzzles of human behavior and making sure 'everyone' is happy. NOW, we have a 'civilian' in the white house, all high and mighty, doing what he deems best for the people because he does love the attention, yet not weighing out the possible consequences of his ultimatums...... (I can't put my finger on what he did, but this goes way beyond grabbing pussies) and in the process, he is pissing off some really dangerous people. Dangerous, as in these people have the financials to actually enact their anger. I'm sorry, but logic to me says this guy was armed, and there is the possibility of smart technology used. Think drone status without flight. Something realllllly scary is happening before us. The violence is coming closer and closer to your homes. Somebody with money wants it too. I reverse looked up those people who were present at Charlottsville and lVERY LITTLE/NOBODY was actually FROM that city!?!? Wtf!?! Plane tickets are EXPENSIVE. How did these people afford to go wine about a statue?? Just like how did this guy afford and have access to these guns?!?

YES. They are covering up the truth... but why does everyone assume cover ups are the purpose of malicious behavior? I truly feel this was an act of war. I pray to god I am wrong... but there are just things that DO NOT make sense, and the things that do, I wish didn't. If for some reason he IS linked to 'ANTIFA' and the degree of how scary everything was setup, there would for suuuree be retaliation from the crazies on the other side, then where will it end? It won't. This is how civil wars start. 'Nobles' in pain w/ damaged egos exploding with hatred and a source for their blame, a divided nation- that's armed to the teeth and the dillusion/manipulation of supporting false causes.


I feel like I'm watching the fall of Rome. All that's left is in the process is for a foreign attack (barbarics), while everyone is blinded from being focused on killing each other.

a reply to: dragonridr

Burden of proof is on you to prove there were cameras.

I just posted an article outlining the Mandalay Bay doesn't have security cameras on the hallways nor the stairs, nor the elevator landings.

originally posted by: 0x6372756d6273
You know what should really get your attention? The differences...

www.usatoday.com...

“We’ll also need the 29th floor. It sounds like it’s confirmed that there are at least two shooters with fully automatic weapons.” (Editor's note: There was only one shooter on the scene, later identified as Stephen Paddock).

www.foxnews.com...

"We will need the 29th floor," the voice continues. "It sounds like there are at least two shooters with fully automatic weapons."

You must be new to this, before the building collapsed during 911 the news had reported the building collapsed even though it was quite clearly still erect.

I am willing to place bets that his brother also had something to do with shooting. Did ANYONE watch his INTERVIEW when he shows his shoulder??????????????

All the while, while he vilifies his brother at the way end of the video??????


His own brother vilifies him in the end of the half hour video. I'm starting to believe the 2 man theory, and 4 man team.

61 one yr old
Brother claims


He owned and purchased the boom stocks
He fired the weapon, which made him fall on the floor of the casino
His mother and him striked it rich when he was 61
Says he himself has fired an automatic rifle (SMILES when doing it)
Can travel like it's no tomorrow, like it's just another day

His younger brother made a lot slips in that video

Maybe his brother is in on it? His brother also talks about his FAKE shoulder.

Where was his brother at the time of the SHOOTING?

originally posted by: 0x6372756d6273
a reply to: dragonridr

Negative. Nobody was in the stairwell for more than 30 minutes after the security guard got shot in the leg. They did not reach the stairwells until later.

I want to know if the security guard had a radio to alert HQ? Or, if he limped away for treatment of his bleeding leg? Or did he just sit on the hallway floor, unable to stand?

I wonder how many people did Paddock shoot from the time he shot the security guard, to the SWAT team's arrival...where they found him already dead?

Hopefully President Trump is briefed accurately on this timeline, so he won't praise the police for saving "hundreds of lives" by stopping the shooter.

originally posted by: Konduit
Was he alone?

That receipt was from 9/27 not 9/28