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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:55 AM
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originally posted by: AdemirAlagic

originally posted by: 0x6372756d6273
a reply to: RomeByFire


originally posted by: RomeByFire
This is what this entire "multiple shooter theory," is relying on. "Flashes," seen from a lower floor. "Flashes," that can clearly be seen hours before the shooting began.


So there was stairs? Wow where did they go tooo an exit?

Really? The entire theory?

Surely it wasn't (a) the two rented rooms, (b) two windows, (c) two gun platforms at each window, (d) the dinner for two. Right?


originally posted by: RomeByFire
Well unless if he's a ghost or escaped through the window, one of the multiple cameras set up will catch second or more shooters on camera.
Unless of course there's another conspiracy to cover that up, too.


Stairs.


That would have been tough on swat to enter it was a kill zone to breach that room. Probably recommend going through the wall in stairwell but its probably cement. Meaning that team was very brave.




posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:56 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Ok, the video in question, is the one that this news network put on youtube.

The firing begins at 00:17- It is loud and sharp sounding, and is a relatively high rate of fire.

Then at 00:19 you begin to hear the echoes- They are faint and dull, barely audible wafting off in the distance and the
echoes match the same rate of fire as the intial crakc.

NOW! At 00:23 you get your first sounds of the OTHER weapon- The rate of fire is much slower, the sound is much deeper
and further away. THE INITIAL WEAPON IS STILL FIRING,
thats 2 at the same time!

At 00:27 the initial weapon STOPS firing- However the second weapon is STILL firing and you can hear it even louder now
that the first one stopped.

The original version of the video keeps going, because after that it starts again, only this time weapon 2 begins to fire first.





posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:57 AM
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originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
You don't just pick up a gun without having shot it first. not one gun range has come out and said they saw this guy..


There have been two gun shop owners who admitted to selling him guns. Do you really think its that hard to spray bullets into a mass of people, killing 59 and injuring hundreds more with automatic weapons? I wouldn`t be surprised if a lot of the bullets went straight through people into others, or bullets hitting the ground and Ricocheting killing people, so accuracy wasn`t necessary either.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:57 AM
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this guy was a practically a senior citizen,
and from the interview his brother just gave he is in total confusion.
he said his brother was a fantastic person, generous, and nobody had anything to say about him,

he also said. @25:40
'its like the bug in men in black put on a steve suit and did this


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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:05 AM
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Like you just know there's certain people in life you meet and you have a little reserve like you say one day that guy is going to go postal you just know. just don't get the vibe with this guy everyone said he wasn't capable of this. If you woke up one day and they said your brother did this wouldntoi believe it? I wouldn't believe anything especially if I knew my brother for more than 60 years



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:05 AM
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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:10 AM
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a reply to: spy66

Other than the fact one of the hotel security was shot through the door (which indicates whomever was in there was a shooter). They stayed there until SWAT arrived, so nobody could get out of that room without the Security seeing them.

So, once SWAT blew the door, entered and found the dead man and all the weapons, and nobody else in the room. Short of another shooter teleporting out of there magically, what do you think is the conclusion of who was the shooter?





posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:19 AM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa
a reply to: spy66

Other than the fact one of the hotel security was shot through the door (which indicates whomever was in there was a shooter). They stayed there until SWAT arrived, so nobody could get out of that room without the Security seeing them.



When the Security Guard was shot in the leg, wasn't he alone? (You said "They") I can't visualize the guard just sitting on the hallway floor for 40 minutes watching the door, while his leg bled.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:23 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Krakatoa
a reply to: spy66

Other than the fact one of the hotel security was shot through the door (which indicates whomever was in there was a shooter). They stayed there until SWAT arrived, so nobody could get out of that room without the Security seeing them.



When the Security Guard was shot in the leg, wasn't he alone? (You said "They") I can't visualize the guard just sitting on the hallway floor for 40 minutes watching the door, while his leg bled.


There was 2 police officers with him in the stair well next to the room.
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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:24 AM
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As it turns out. The Los Vegas shooter, gunman was a multi millionaire real estate investor.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:29 AM
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originally posted by: ADSE255
As it turns out. The Los Vegas shooter, gunman was a multi millionaire real estate investor.


Heres my question think the room was comped by the casino?



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:36 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: ADSE255
As it turns out. The Los Vegas shooter, gunman was a multi millionaire real estate investor.


Heres my question think the room was comped by the casino?


Ive wondered this as it would look quite sticky even though it’s general practice. Media was reporting the room was in her name but I believe that to have been false and only based on they had said her VIP card was in the room.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:40 AM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa
Other than the fact one of the hotel security was shot through the door (which indicates whomever was in there was a shooter). They stayed there until SWAT arrived, so nobody could get out of that room without the Security seeing them.


Where did you get that info?

The camera set up by the shooter(s) looked down the entire hallway. The door that was shot through is at the very end of the hallway. The security guard was shot in the leg while approaching the door. Then they backed off and called in a SWAT team, because the entire hallway was suppressed at that point, it was a kill box. Then 1 hour later the SWAT team arrived.

It is not documented that the guard and the few officers with him surveilled the door while waiting for the SWAT team. In fact, its documented they backed off completely from the hallway. Other suspects could have exited to the stairwells at this time.

www.npr.org...


"They received gunfire. They backed off and SWAT responded," said a somber Lombardo.


www.foxnews.com...



10:26 p.m.
There's a security officer shot in the leg on the 32nd floor of the casino, a voice says in the scanner audio shared online by Broadcastify.

"He shot down the hallway and hit a security guard," the voice later says, adding that there's a "4-man" team on the floor with "another element coming to us."

"We will need the 29th floor," the voice continues. "It sounds like there are at least two shooters with fully automatic weapons."


A trained professional heard two shooters with fully automatic weapons.



11:20 p.m.
Around this time, the Times reports, authorities breach a Mandalay Bay room, finding Paddock dead inside.


Good hour to escape while security and officers stay out of the hallway and wait for the SWAT team.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:40 AM
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originally posted by: ZenTam
I work at a hotel that is in a casino. They have surveillance footage of him from the moment he walked or drove onto the property and every movement on property after that. Any movement outside his hotel room in public areas will have be been caught on surveillance. It will take time to sort through hundreds of hours of footage from multiple cameras but they will be able to track his every move. The big question is will we ever get to see it? Or will they lie and say they don't have him in any footage? They will also be able to see if anyone other than him and housekeeping ever went in or out of his room.

As for getting all his stuff into the room, that's easy. I check people in for one night who have luggage carts piled to the top with ice cooler, luggage, bags, golf clubs, etc.... Who ever really knows what people bring into their rooms. As for hiding stuff in your room, that's easy. Most hotel beds are on a raised box frame that is flush to the floor. I have the same kind of bed frame at home. They use these because nothing can get under the bed, so it makes cleaning easier. But if you move the mattres and box frame there is a hug space underneath to hide things. He was in a suite, so there could have been as many as 4 beds to hide stuff under. The luggage with amo could have simply been placed in the closet unopened, nothing unusual about that. Housekeeping doesn't go through your luggage or touch your personal belongings. They are told not to. When they clean a stay over they change the garbage, make the bed, clean the bathroom, give you fresh towels and vacuum. They don't check under the bed or rummage through your belongings. So this makes sense they never saw anything.


It'd be interesting to see the footage of his arrival with all the luggage. Front desk would have check in times, no? I'd imagine this footage would be captured digitally as well (not sure of course). If so, I doubt his arrival and the shooting times would be tough to isolate in the footage.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:41 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

He was not in the stairwell, he was down the hallway.

www.usatoday.com...


“We have a security officer also shot in the leg on the 32nd floor,” someone from SWAT says. “He’s standing right by the elevator.”

“He shot down the hallway and hit a security guard,” says another.

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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:48 AM
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Was he alone?




posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:52 AM
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According to his brother he did get the modification and did fire the weapon before, and was highly intelligent so maybe Lockheed martin, used his brother. He also was in Dubai. So I am thinking that Lockheed Martin turned him into asset to use, and things went awry, considering he was just only an accountant for Lockheed Martin.

Or, the brother in question isn't really his brother and just a plant, while the other real brother is really dead from the the ones behind this plot or Lockheed Martin.

I know Lockheed Martin is a private intelligence military contractor. So it's not all that far fetched that they would use a highly intelligent person to further their agenda.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:52 AM
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a reply to: 0x6372756d6273

So according to this 4 officers where on the floor. I heard there was 2 in the stairwell so that would mean 3 to remain and 1 to help him down. So where do you think anyone could go? Elevator would have cameras and police in the stairwell. Unless they could fly or invisible they wernt going any where. You seem invested in this multi shooter theory but evidence doesnt support it
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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:53 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

I wouldn't doubt it no.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:54 AM
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originally posted by: hiddenNZ
a reply to: 0x6372756d6273

Man has a good point with dinner trolley right there to be honest.


Might not be his?




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