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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:38 AM
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originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: itsmikeski

The SAS Brigadiers report referred to a 'Satanic efficency' but thats another thread ,one thing not being discussed here with this Vegas shooting is the timeline Swat did not arrive until 71 minutes after the first 9-11 call yet the killer was only in operation 9-12 minutes methinks he was a long time dead when the burst open the door perhaps a second shooter left him as a patsy by blowing him away.


Well unless if he's a ghost or escaped through the window, one of the multiple cameras set up will catch second or more shooters on camera.

Unless of course there's another conspiracy to cover that up, too.


To be fair I haven’t even seen videos with flashes from the 32nd


Not sure why people are so caught up on the flashes

This video clearly shows "flashes," two hours before shooting starts

This is what this entire "multiple shooter theory," is relying on. "Flashes," seen from a lower floor. "Flashes," that can clearly be seen hours before the shooting began.


I have made a point to make no theories here. I have only asked questions legitimately seeking intelligent answers. You clearly have trouble reading. I didn’t say 2 shooters. I didn’t say 4th floor. All I said was I hadn’t personally seen videos that captured the flashing from the 32nd floor.


Dang. Maybe the next time a mass shooting happens, one of the people involved can whip out their phone for a quick recording and upload it to YouTube so we can all see what they saw.

Listen to eyewitness testimony, police reports. The muzzle flashes are what gave the positioning away, allowing LEO to discover the shooters location.

Copypasta? Hahaha. Okay.


That first comment was tasteless
1.) Eyewitness reports have literally been all over the place. We have all concluded that hysteria is the reason why so many conflicting stories
2.) the fire alarm as mentioned on the scanner and the Aussie calling into security is what original pinpointed them.



A man with hotel security was shot through the door when he investigated. That was the confirmation of the shooters location.


Your suggesting he stumbled across it? He was going to that room with two police officers 14 mins after shots started and 3mins after shooters sustained fire stopped. You need to listen to some scanners


Thanks for explaining to me whati meant. But lets try this again i said that was the confirmation of his lotion and the first contact with the shooter. And this is when they called in swat to the location




posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:38 AM
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Even in the cab video you can hear the shooter move. His first position (the loudest in the cab video) was not ideal, hence his move. This is why the gunfire got quieter...he moved from the side of the building (which was directly above the cab) to the end of the building where he had a better shot. Because the wind direction was different there, it muffled the sound of the shots and therefore they didn't seem as loud. It's just simple physics.

There simply were NOT two shooters.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:40 AM
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originally posted by: 0x6372756d6273
a reply to: RomeByFire


originally posted by: RomeByFire
This is what this entire "multiple shooter theory," is relying on. "Flashes," seen from a lower floor. "Flashes," that can clearly be seen hours before the shooting began.


So there was stairs? Wow where did they go tooo an exit?

Really? The entire theory?

Surely it wasn't (a) the two rented rooms, (b) two windows, (c) two gun platforms at each window, (d) the dinner for two. Right?


originally posted by: RomeByFire
Well unless if he's a ghost or escaped through the window, one of the multiple cameras set up will catch second or more shooters on camera.
Unless of course there's another conspiracy to cover that up, too.


Stairs.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:40 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Gentlemen (and ladies)...there were NOT two shooters!!

I'm sorry, but there just weren't. There has not been a single shred of evidence to support two shooters, not one single shred!

Please stop with this line of thinking. There are no facts, absolutely ZERO, to support a two shooter scenario. NONE!!

I have repeatedly explained the different sounds, and why they're different. The strobe in the widow theory is just that...a strobe. There just simply were NOT two shooters!

The alleged location of the supposed 2nd shooter is over 100m from the actual shooter's position. The actual shooter had a 333m range (tough shot at night, even by an expert...especially downhill). The 4th story location everyone keeps talking about is 100m further, and at an oblique angle. It's nearly an impossible shot, even for a trained sniper (which this dude wasn't). 433m, downhill on a completely oblique angle at 48 feet off the ground would not hit the venue. The shooter was at 385' above ground (not 48) and 333m distant.

C'mon...seriously, just stop it!

I will at least point out that your theory doesn’t prove a second shooter wasn’t in the room? I’m not suggesting again just asking



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:40 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

The time between the first and second supposed volleys at the beginning of that video is barely a breath, and mimicked each other. It was an echo.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:41 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Even in the cab video you can hear the shooter move. His first position (the loudest in the cab video) was not ideal, hence his move. This is why the gunfire got quieter...he moved from the side of the building (which was directly above the cab) to the end of the building where he had a better shot. Because the wind direction was different there, it muffled the sound of the shots and therefore they didn't seem as loud. It's just simple physics.

There simply were NOT two shooters.



Dude cops don't even have an explanation and you have it all figured out.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:41 AM
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Stairs.

It seems one would have to enter the corridor to get to the stairs. The corridor with security cameras, that is.


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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:43 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I did read your explanations however, in the OTHER video. The one that didnt come out until a few hours ago, the one that was during the first shots, where the person filming was like 10 feet back from the stage.

You hear the loud cracks of the automatic fire at a very rapid rate, then you hear the echoes. Then after about 5 seconds of constant fire and echoes, you then hear a second weapon engage at a rate of fire much slower (maybe at 1/3 the speed) WHILE THE FIRST WEAPON IS STILL FIRING!

Im afraid to post the video again, the mods didnt take it down, but it is on LL and Im afraid of getting in trouble reposting it.... Let me see if I can find it on youtube



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:43 AM
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a reply to: AdemirAlagic

Actually, the cops seem to have it figured out.
One shooter. Deceased.


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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:45 AM
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Over 500 people got shot in under 9 minutes by one guy..



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:45 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: burgerbuddy

Sounds like she went through HK.

I'm thinking there's some bills to pay in HK, and she might not have been able to call off the 'dogs'. So she goes "home" to the Phillippines, and he decides to go Born to Be Wild (i.e. %Fire all of your guns at once and...explode into space%)...which is pretty much what he did.





Yeah, pretty much have to come through here from there.

Not sure about the debts tho.

At best you'd get a limited line of credit and if you default then you can get sued or more likely blacklisted from Macau and Vegas casino's.

They'd be crazy to mess with Duterte over guns or drugs. She wouldn't be able to leave.










posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:46 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: AdemirAlagic

Actually, the cops seem to have it figured out.
One shooter. Deceased.



They see what they can see. Obviously see a dead guy In a room full of guns durr.. but looks aren't always what they seem.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:46 AM
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a reply to: Diabolical1972

That video has been posted numerous times and discussed within this thread.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:47 AM
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a reply to: AdemirAlagic

You said:

Dude cops don't even have an explanation and you have it all figured out.

The cops have an explanation.
One shooter. Deceased.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:48 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

For sure not a Winchester, I would remember that. I thought Remington. Looking, maybe a Marlin. I don't know. Maybe the shotgun was a Remington.

I killed 1 buck and 1 doe with it. That was enough for me.

Perhaps it was a Remington previously owned by Nelson Mandela. In another dimension/timeline.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:48 AM
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You don't just pick up a gun without having shot it first. not one gun range has come out and said they saw this guy..



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:49 AM
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a reply to: AdemirAlagic

Yeah. Because there's not a lot of open space in Nevada.
Right?

I take it you've never been there.

Have you been to the US?


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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:49 AM
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a reply to: Phage

The corridors don't have security cameras.

www.mercurynews.com...



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:50 AM
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a reply to: Phage

All they have is a dead body and a bunsh of guns and ammo in a hotellrom.

They cant prove he was alive when the shooting took place.

There Are no evidence he did the shooting. The only evidence is a dead body in the hotellrom.
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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:53 AM
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a reply to: 0x6372756d6273

Well that's stupid.

So, it gets down to how well were the fire escapes secured.

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