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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:11 AM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: itsmikeski

The SAS Brigadiers report referred to a 'Satanic efficency' but thats another thread ,one thing not being discussed here with this Vegas shooting is the timeline Swat did not arrive until 71 minutes after the first 9-11 call yet the killer was only in operation 9-12 minutes methinks he was a long time dead when the burst open the door perhaps a second shooter left him as a patsy by blowing him away.


Well unless if he's a ghost or escaped through the window, one of the multiple cameras set up will catch second or more shooters on camera.

Unless of course there's another conspiracy to cover that up, too.


To be fair I haven’t even seen videos with flashes from the 32nd


Not sure why people are so caught up on the flashes

This video clearly shows "flashes," two hours before shooting starts

This is what this entire "multiple shooter theory," is relying on. "Flashes," seen from a lower floor. "Flashes," that can clearly be seen hours before the shooting began.


I have made a point to make no theories here. I have only asked questions legitimately seeking intelligent answers. You clearly have trouble reading. I didn’t say 2 shooters. I didn’t say 4th floor. All I said was I hadn’t personally seen videos that captured the flashing from the 32nd floor.

Edit: it’s like the 4th time you have used your copy pasta when it does not apply
edit on 4-10-2017 by antibren because: (no reason given)




posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:11 AM
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originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: RomeByFire

So far I have a 64 year old retired accountant worth several million dollars,with 47 guns,well planned and executed shooting with ammonium nitrate in his possession and a seriously dodgy girlfriend...nah theres no conspiracy in all that he is not the drone I am looking for etc


Because elderly, retired, wealthy folks are incapable of becoming mass murderers.

Because some people don't "believe it."

Cool. I don't really care what people believe.

Like I've said - I trust the people who are there, doing their jobs. Not random internet posters.

I'm here to deny ignorance, not speculate about "what if," scenarios (for whatever end-game).

That's the worst Star Wars reference I've seen made btw



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:12 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

For sure not a Winchester, I would remember that. I thought Remington. Looking, maybe a Marlin. I don't know. Maybe the shotgun was a Remington.

I killed 1 buck and 1 doe with it. That was enough for me.
edit on 10/4/2017 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:12 AM
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The shooting only lasted 9 minutes from what police said... nowit took swat almost an hour to get in. That means he was likely dead a long time which throws out the need for cameras. It's obvious the cameras were there for who ever to escape. They kill this guy leave him there stage the scene and move onto the next shooting where the next patsy will be blamed..



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:13 AM
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originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: itsmikeski

The SAS Brigadiers report referred to a 'Satanic efficency' but thats another thread ,one thing not being discussed here with this Vegas shooting is the timeline Swat did not arrive until 71 minutes after the first 9-11 call yet the killer was only in operation 9-12 minutes methinks he was a long time dead when the burst open the door perhaps a second shooter left him as a patsy by blowing him away.


Well unless if he's a ghost or escaped through the window, one of the multiple cameras set up will catch second or more shooters on camera.

Unless of course there's another conspiracy to cover that up, too.


To be fair I haven’t even seen videos with flashes from the 32nd


Not sure why people are so caught up on the flashes

This video clearly shows "flashes," two hours before shooting starts

This is what this entire "multiple shooter theory," is relying on. "Flashes," seen from a lower floor. "Flashes," that can clearly be seen hours before the shooting began.


I have made a point to make no theories here. I have only asked questions legitimately seeking intelligent answers. You clearly have trouble reading. I didn’t say 2 shooters. I didn’t say 4th floor. All I said was I hadn’t personally seen videos that captured the flashing from the 32nd floor.


Dang. Maybe the next time a mass shooting happens, one of the people involved can whip out their phone for a quick recording and upload it to YouTube so we can all see what they saw.

Listen to eyewitness testimony, police reports. The muzzle flashes are what gave the positioning away, allowing LEO to discover the shooters location.

Copypasta? Hahaha. Okay.

edit on 4-10-2017 by RomeByFire because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:14 AM
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a reply to: RomeByFire

Well I use the rule of thumb if it looks like bs and smells like bs its probably bs,I merely present possibilities its up to people to research and draw their own conclusions
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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:15 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

ATS has a Weaponry forum, maybe you and Phage could have this convo in a thread there. ATS also has PM for chit chat.

Just saying.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:15 AM
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originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: RomeByFire

Well I use the rule of thumb if it looks like bs and smells like bs its probably bs


Believe whatever conspiracy floats your boat, dude.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:15 AM
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a reply to: antibren

What's a tactical reload and what's a experienced reload? And what IS that rifle doing over his leg? I'd love to think his leg somehow got under that rifle as he was going down from a self inflicted head shot ...but I cant



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:16 AM
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a reply to: RomeByFire

No they weren't. They didn't know where he was till people a floor down heard him



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:16 AM
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originally posted by: hiddenNZ
a reply to: antibren

What's a tactical reload and what's a experienced reload? And what IS that rifle doing over his leg? I'd love to think his leg somehow got under that rifle as he was going down from a self inflicted head shot ...but I cant


So the rifle was staged?

The government needs to step its game up and hire actual forensic experts when staging these fake crime scene, it appears.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:17 AM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: itsmikeski

The SAS Brigadiers report referred to a 'Satanic efficency' but thats another thread ,one thing not being discussed here with this Vegas shooting is the timeline Swat did not arrive until 71 minutes after the first 9-11 call yet the killer was only in operation 9-12 minutes methinks he was a long time dead when the burst open the door perhaps a second shooter left him as a patsy by blowing him away.


Well unless if he's a ghost or escaped through the window, one of the multiple cameras set up will catch second or more shooters on camera.

Unless of course there's another conspiracy to cover that up, too.


To be fair I haven’t even seen videos with flashes from the 32nd


Not sure why people are so caught up on the flashes

This video clearly shows "flashes," two hours before shooting starts

This is what this entire "multiple shooter theory," is relying on. "Flashes," seen from a lower floor. "Flashes," that can clearly be seen hours before the shooting began.


I have made a point to make no theories here. I have only asked questions legitimately seeking intelligent answers. You clearly have trouble reading. I didn’t say 2 shooters. I didn’t say 4th floor. All I said was I hadn’t personally seen videos that captured the flashing from the 32nd floor.


Dang. Maybe the next time a mass shooting happens, one of the people involved can whip out their phone for a quick recording and upload it to YouTube so we can all see what they saw.

Listen to eyewitness testimony, police reports. The muzzle flashes are what gave the positioning away, allowing LEO to discover the shooters location.

Copypasta? Hahaha. Okay.


That first comment was tasteless
1.) Eyewitness reports have literally been all over the place. We have all concluded that hysteria is the reason why so many conflicting stories
2.) the fire alarm as mentioned on the scanner and the Aussie calling into security is what original pinpointed them.


edit on 4-10-2017 by antibren because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:18 AM
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originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
a reply to: RomeByFire

No they weren't. They didn't know where he was till people a floor down heard him


Why didn't anyone in the hotel call the police about suspects leaving the hotel if there were multiple shooters? Is there no hotel camera system?

Or is that part of the cover-up too? Hotel employees? Hotel guests?



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:18 AM
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same female cabby different video
edit on 4-10-2017 by Diabolical1972 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:20 AM
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originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: itsmikeski

The SAS Brigadiers report referred to a 'Satanic efficency' but thats another thread ,one thing not being discussed here with this Vegas shooting is the timeline Swat did not arrive until 71 minutes after the first 9-11 call yet the killer was only in operation 9-12 minutes methinks he was a long time dead when the burst open the door perhaps a second shooter left him as a patsy by blowing him away.


Well unless if he's a ghost or escaped through the window, one of the multiple cameras set up will catch second or more shooters on camera.

Unless of course there's another conspiracy to cover that up, too.


To be fair I haven’t even seen videos with flashes from the 32nd


Not sure why people are so caught up on the flashes

This video clearly shows "flashes," two hours before shooting starts

This is what this entire "multiple shooter theory," is relying on. "Flashes," seen from a lower floor. "Flashes," that can clearly be seen hours before the shooting began.


I have made a point to make no theories here. I have only asked questions legitimately seeking intelligent answers. You clearly have trouble reading. I didn’t say 2 shooters. I didn’t say 4th floor. All I said was I hadn’t personally seen videos that captured the flashing from the 32nd floor.


Dang. Maybe the next time a mass shooting happens, one of the people involved can whip out their phone for a quick recording and upload it to YouTube so we can all see what they saw.

Listen to eyewitness testimony, police reports. The muzzle flashes are what gave the positioning away, allowing LEO to discover the shooters location.

Copypasta? Hahaha. Okay.


That first comment was tasteless
1.) Eyewitness reports have literally been all over the place. We have all concluded that hysteria is the reason why so many conflicting stories
2.) the fire alarm as mentioned on the scanner and the Aussie calling into security is what original pinpointed them.



So we shouldn't trust eyewitness testimony. Does that also include police during the initial stages of the shooting?



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:20 AM
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originally posted by: hiddenNZ
a reply to: antibren

What's a tactical reload and what's a experienced reload? And what IS that rifle doing over his leg? I'd love to think his leg somehow got under that rifle as he was going down from a self inflicted head shot ...but I cant


Tactical reload is when you leave the last bullet from a mag in the chamber before reloading. He suggested that he was. I would presume it would be damn near impossible with that thing rattling out bullets to count to 99 and reload.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:21 AM
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I work at a hotel that is in a casino. They have surveillance footage of him from the moment he walked or drove onto the property and every movement on property after that. Any movement outside his hotel room in public areas will have be been caught on surveillance. It will take time to sort through hundreds of hours of footage from multiple cameras but they will be able to track his every move. The big question is will we ever get to see it? Or will they lie and say they don't have him in any footage? They will also be able to see if anyone other than him and housekeeping ever went in or out of his room.

As for getting all his stuff into the room, that's easy. I check people in for one night who have luggage carts piled to the top with ice cooler, luggage, bags, golf clubs, etc.... Who ever really knows what people bring into their rooms. As for hiding stuff in your room, that's easy. Most hotel beds are on a raised box frame that is flush to the floor. I have the same kind of bed frame at home. They use these because nothing can get under the bed, so it makes cleaning easier. But if you move the mattres and box frame there is a hug space underneath to hide things. He was in a suite, so there could have been as many as 4 beds to hide stuff under. The luggage with amo could have simply been placed in the closet unopened, nothing unusual about that. Housekeeping doesn't go through your luggage or touch your personal belongings. They are told not to. When they clean a stay over they change the garbage, make the bed, clean the bathroom, give you fresh towels and vacuum. They don't check under the bed or rummage through your belongings. So this makes sense they never saw anything.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:21 AM
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a reply to: RomeByFire

No you shouldn't, eyewitness testimony is notoriously bad.

Why are you being such an obnoxious twat in this thread?



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:21 AM
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a reply to: Diabolical1972

What!?

TBH all the videos I've seen so far, it sounds like there's an echo and the bullets hitting the pavement which people are calling multiple shooters. Maybe, but I haven't seen 100% definitive proof.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:22 AM
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originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: itsmikeski

The SAS Brigadiers report referred to a 'Satanic efficency' but thats another thread ,one thing not being discussed here with this Vegas shooting is the timeline Swat did not arrive until 71 minutes after the first 9-11 call yet the killer was only in operation 9-12 minutes methinks he was a long time dead when the burst open the door perhaps a second shooter left him as a patsy by blowing him away.


Well unless if he's a ghost or escaped through the window, one of the multiple cameras set up will catch second or more shooters on camera.

Unless of course there's another conspiracy to cover that up, too.


To be fair I haven’t even seen videos with flashes from the 32nd


Not sure why people are so caught up on the flashes

This video clearly shows "flashes," two hours before shooting starts

This is what this entire "multiple shooter theory," is relying on. "Flashes," seen from a lower floor. "Flashes," that can clearly be seen hours before the shooting began.


I have made a point to make no theories here. I have only asked questions legitimately seeking intelligent answers. You clearly have trouble reading. I didn’t say 2 shooters. I didn’t say 4th floor. All I said was I hadn’t personally seen videos that captured the flashing from the 32nd floor.


Dang. Maybe the next time a mass shooting happens, one of the people involved can whip out their phone for a quick recording and upload it to YouTube so we can all see what they saw.

Listen to eyewitness testimony, police reports. The muzzle flashes are what gave the positioning away, allowing LEO to discover the shooters location.

Copypasta? Hahaha. Okay.


That first comment was tasteless
1.) Eyewitness reports have literally been all over the place. We have all concluded that hysteria is the reason why so many conflicting stories
2.) the fire alarm as mentioned on the scanner and the Aussie calling into security is what original pinpointed them.



A man with hotel security was shot through the door when he investigated. That was the confirmation of the shooters location.



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