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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:54 PM
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originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
Again why go through all of the trouble of wiring a room with cameras if he knew he was going to kill himself in the end. Even the cops can't answer that and they don't have any answers. If I know in the end I'm going to commit suicide after doing this there's no need for me to worry about anybody storming I'll do as much damage as I could and be done


So he knows when the police are there.
So he can kill himself before they can subdue/kill him first.

Why go through the trouble of setting up in arms deal in a city like Vegas, in a public building, when it could be done at private venues or in a corn field/desert?


The question of why he did an arms deal in a hotel in Las Vegas is only really an issue if he was an illegal arms dealer.

What has been suggested is that he was actually involved in a sting operation.

Now, if that were the case and he were sanctioned, where would you set it up? In the desert, where no one can hear you scream?



I suppose I wouldn't put it past alphabet agencies to do illegal activity in public areas where innocents can be collateral damage.

Why pin it on this guy, though? Why not just blame ISIS, and say "they did it?"

Wouldn't that be a whole lot easier than creating a patsy out of this guy?


Well what exactly would they say?

"We were trying to sting terrorists into buying weapons but they kinda found out and now we have this whole mess...sorry?"

I don't think they would admit it unless it were proven to have happened, but it is still just speculation.



"Terrorist used the 32nd floor of...," why even mention a sting, at all, implicating their involvement?

Like I've said - I find it to be plausible.

What's the point of having it in Vegas, though? There was clearly no backup, and if this were legally sanctioned arms dealing... whoever set this up left this dude in an impossible situation.




posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: antibren

a reply to: antibren




10 suitcases as reports would say. One bag which is clearly filled with Ammo in the pictures leaves 9 bags for 22 rifles and one handgun.





Even if they were all golf bags it’s still a space issue.


you do realize that AR'S can be broke down into two pieces, off the top of my head i don't remember the lengths of the upper and lowers but depending on the size of the bags at least two can be put in each.
as a matter of fact 2.5 in 9 suitcases, and at 7lbs each that's only 15 lbs. their not all that big. that's was one of the army's deal when they first came out.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:54 PM
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Always looking for the "angle".

You NEVER beat the 'house'...NEVER!

In the end, the 'house' ALWAYS wins!!! ALWAYS!!!

(doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure this out!)




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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: antar
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Ok ok, no prob, just thought a picture of the alleged shooter made its way out, burns on the skin was what caught my attention and wanted to share it with others that know more about these types of things than me.

Meant to ask you what your take is on the bullets found in the room, unloaded? I mean, it takes a good long time to load, so you would think he would have preloaded in the 4 days leading up.

Also why would the investigators not have placed blackout plastic over the windows for privacy and to secure the scene from being disturbed?


I think he was waiting for the police to arrive... it was taking longer than he expected so he decided to reload. Looking at some of the pics, he had aranged firearms and ammo tactically around the room. I think he was planning on escaping, which means he probably had help at the street level. I wonder who that taxi was waiting for.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:55 PM
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a reply to: Bicent

a las vegas starbucks employees says the shooter was always berating his girlfriend...

www.dailymail.co.uk...



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:56 PM
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The Ammonium Nitrate in the car, and remember there were 2 cars/1 perp, shows even more planning.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:58 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I came out $80 ahead in south Lake Tahoe. In todays dollars that would be like...$250!

But that was blackjack. You can win at blackjack.


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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:58 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

Yeah, but in the end he realized he'd get more bang for his buck by just having a stockpile of guns in the room and shooting up a C&W concert full of freedom loving Americans.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:59 PM
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originally posted by: research100
a reply to: Bicent

a las vegas starbucks employees says the shooter was always berating his girlfriend...

www.dailymail.co.uk...


I wonder who will crawl out of the woodwork next, for their 5 minutes of notoriety?



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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originally posted by: research100
a reply to: Bicent

a las vegas starbucks employees says the shooter was always berating his girlfriend...

www.dailymail.co.uk...

From the article:


'He would glare down at her and say, "You don't need my casino card for this. I'm paying for your drink, just like I'm paying for you,'" Mendoza recalled.

She probably escaped the POS. He wires money to her and or her family try and coax her back? Looks like he grew tired of gambling, couldn't berate her anymore if she did escape, and moved onto murder.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: RomeByFire


Why pin it on this guy, though? Why not just blame ISIS, and say "they did it?"

Because they've done that in the past and had no success. All an ISIS attack would accomplish politically is to stir up the 2nd Amendment crowd even further... the opposite of the narrative now being played out on the MSM.

No, they needed something more... an average American who fit none of the models, but who could be said to have gone off on a whim and killed dozens of innocent people.

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: Phage

$80 bucks is fun...one night. However, it doesn't pay the bills...and it certainly doesn't pay the bad guys (loan shark ganstahs, and Asian whales) who loaned you the $4,000 bucks to double your money on that $80 bucks.

edit...this sick F# was gambling $100k a night...on a damn video poker machine no less!! The most rigged game in the biz!!!




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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
Again why go through all of the trouble of wiring a room with cameras if he knew he was going to kill himself in the end. Even the cops can't answer that and they don't have any answers. If I know in the end I'm going to commit suicide after doing this there's no need for me to worry about anybody storming I'll do as much damage as I could and be done


So he knows when the police are there.
So he can kill himself before they can subdue/kill him first.

Why go through the trouble of setting up in arms deal in a city like Vegas, in a public building, when it could be done at private venues or in a corn field/desert?


The question of why he did an arms deal in a hotel in Las Vegas is only really an issue if he was an illegal arms dealer.

What has been suggested is that he was actually involved in a sting operation.

Now, if that were the case and he were sanctioned, where would you set it up? In the desert, where no one can hear you scream?



I suppose I wouldn't put it past alphabet agencies to do illegal activity in public areas where innocents can be collateral damage.

Why pin it on this guy, though? Why not just blame ISIS, and say "they did it?"

Wouldn't that be a whole lot easier than creating a patsy out of this guy?


Well what exactly would they say?

"We were trying to sting terrorists into buying weapons but they kinda found out and now we have this whole mess...sorry?"

I don't think they would admit it unless it were proven to have happened, but it is still just speculation.



"Terrorist used the 32nd floor of...," why even mention a sting, at all, implicating their involvement?

Like I've said - I find it to be plausible.

What's the point of having it in Vegas, though? There was clearly no backup, and if this were legally sanctioned arms dealing... whoever set this up left this dude in an impossible situation.
>>>> I think that's sort of what happened in Boston with the marathon bombing. The FBI had the brothers on their radar and probably even had contact with them but wanted to wait to see if they could lead them to anybody else. Then they beat the feds to the punch and if that truth got out, heads would literally roll in FBI headquarters. So they pushed the two agents closest to the case out of that helicopter( or persuaded them to jump) and then had that dirty cop agent murder the last witness who knew they had dealings with them, that russkie who died during interrogation.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:02 PM
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Just sharing, OAN reported, that the girlfriend landed at LA airport, and is in custody...


No further details were released...



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: JacKatMtn

They're gonna get this chick on RICO or laundering...I'd even "bet" on it!!



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I started out with $100. The cards were on my side that evening. I burned that casino, so bad.


Spent the $80 at the Bucket of Blood the next day.. Gambling is fun, if you don't need to win.

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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: research100

Here we go this is where they start to make the "shooter"
Look crazy then they'll say he was in contact with terror groups watch



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:05 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Willtell


Who did all of this?

I originally was trying to figure that out, either ISIS or our own deep state government. The clincher for me was hw fast and hard the gun control demands hit. Now I'm pretty certain it was our government.

Of course, it wouldn't surprise me if they were working with ISIS either...

TheRedneck


one of the videos on LL has a troll that has been posting information that leads to George Soros, James Murren: advisor to infrastructure, who have been sending billions to terrorists groups, Sheldan Anderson and etc...Also on there is why the next big Trump project could be in LV, like the train running from NY to LV. However, what if it meant foiling Trumps plans. The only thing that these groups have done so far has create hate without violence, and now maybe Trump will change his stance on gun control. I'm not going to listen to the whole video, because his voice annoys me. But, if you want to watch just search LV infrastructure.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:05 PM
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originally posted by: JacKatMtn
Just sharing, OAN reported, that the girlfriend landed at LA airport, and is in custody...


No further details were released...


CNN just said that also..



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Whoa, Nelly!

I thought the narrative was that he was actually winning in his gambling... looking at it almost like a job to bring in money. If he was winning regularly at a known-rigged game... that raises the concept of money laundering.

TheRedneck



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