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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
Just makes no sense to bring all those guns 23 guns all that ammo and wire the room with cameras only to off himself that easily? Why go trough the troubl of brining 23 guns into a room with ammo they need to release the video of him checking in.. prove to us he was brining suit case after suit case


Why go trough the troubl of brining 23 guns into a room?

Wel mayb as othrs have theorized, he wa a arms dealr.




posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: antibren
He had to make just one trip to his room?

I don't see the problem.

Even if they were all golf bags it’s still a space issue.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 09:53 PM
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a reply to: MysticPearl

Maybe he was comforted by them. Happiness is a warm gun.

The man was not right in the head. He was not behaving rationally.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 09:53 PM
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originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: AdemirAlagic

originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: AdemirAlagic

If you're going to kill yourself you want to make sure you do so before someone stops you.
So why even bother shooting at the security? Based on your theory he would have just offed himself


Exactly. In every shooter the guy just offs himself before cops come why did this guy shoot at the security officer? Or what if the security off shot himself in the leg and was in on it? How else could he bring all these guns in? Why did security officer go alone?


Ok I am just speculating here.

But when he shot the security guard, he was shooting out the window it seems and then turned and fired through the door.

After that he stops shooting out the window.

He probably is now looking at the cameras waiting for the cops to breach.

During the long wait, perhaps his adrenaline lowers, or fear or guilt or something sets in.

He can't take the waiting and decided to just end it.

Just a theory.
He has to at least enter entry hallway to shoot towards door. No sight line from the windows


Yes but perhaps he saw the security guy approaching slowly on his monitor from the camera outside.

He moves then and shoots out the door.

At this point, it would be the first time in the event where is is now under threat.

So he stops shooting outside and is staying at the door and monitors, because he probably assumed the guard was going to be immediately followed up by a rush of law enforcement.

So he waits and waits and waits.

Maybe he thinks now that police know where he is, the jig is up, and if he goes back to the window He will be sniped.

At some point, rather out of fear of being killed by police or more likely captured alive, he decides to end it.
edit on 3-10-2017 by Grambler because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 09:53 PM
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originally posted by: Diabolical1972
I saw that earlier but I believe it’s a pile of pillows from the couches



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 09:53 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Do you not see a problem with this ass-clown? Seriously??

I see lots of problems with him. I see him as everything wrong with society, that he thought he could make a "statement" which would live beyond himself. I see EVERYTHING wrong with this POS!

Seriously, don't you??? Honestly???



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 09:54 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I think you grossly misunderstood my point. I think he was a very bad person.

The claim was that it was somehow problematic for the number of weapons to be brought to his room. I said I didn't see that as a problem.

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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Ok first question. Why a country music concERT?
It was planned weeks if not months in advance.. again why a country music concert?

Why not just going into a mall killing people woulda been easier..

Why the construction of survalience of the room aka security?

Just a random mad attack really?

I respect your opinion just curious to hear how you reached your conclusion



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 09:55 PM
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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 09:56 PM
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originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: antibren
He had to make just one trip to his room?

I don't see the problem.

Even if they were all golf bags it’s still a space issue.


It is?

How so? Details, man, they're important.

Guns can be (and are built to be) broken down.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 09:56 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Fair enough. Perhaps so.

Answer the question(s).



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
I did.
Bad bad man.
A psychopath.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 09:58 PM
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a reply to: MysticPearl

The arms dealer theory makes no sense to me. Why go to all the trouble of getting them all up to the 32 floor of a public place
to sell them and then have the buyers have to get them all out of the building?



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Lucidparadox

OH...you didn't say in your original post that it was on live leak. From now on, please post links to what you find. Adult ATS members have the freedom to CLICK or NOT to CLICK. Thanks.



Ok.. if you say so.

To any mods reading this. Im not trying to get in trouble for posting this. I'm doing so because It shows a heroic act. The gentleman filming.. it shows at the end.. is clearly trying to save lives, whereas whomever is in authority at the end..

Basically wants to ignore it..

***WARNING*** EXTREMELY GRAPHIC NSFW


*Snip*
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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: bluemooone2
a reply to: MysticPearl

The arms dealer theory makes no sense to me. Why go to all the trouble of getting them all up to the 32 floor of a public place
to sell them and then have the buyers have to get them all out of the building?


They could have done it in one of the thousands of big nice rental homes for a lower profile



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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:04 PM
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originally posted by: bluemooone2
a reply to: MysticPearl

The arms dealer theory makes no sense to me. Why go to all the trouble of getting them all up to the 32 floor of a public place
to sell them and then have the buyers have to get them all out of the building?


Perhaps whoever the buyers were, whoever scheduled the showing in that room, had no intention of taking them all out of the building and instead, killed him and went on with their plan to shoot up a festival while they then had their dead patsy framed.

As one theory.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: bluemooone2
a reply to: MysticPearl

The arms dealer theory makes no sense to me. Why go to all the trouble of getting them all up to the 32 floor of a public place
to sell them and then have the buyers have to get them all out of the building?


They could have done it in one of the thousands of big nice rental homes for a lower profile


They could've done it the desert where satellites can't track correctly, no cell reception - nothing.

Other posters have mentioned how "implausible," it is for this many weapons to make it to the 32nd floor.

Doesn't seem like a very intelligent way to go about selling guns.
Seems like a very intelligent way to create a crows nest. Underneath of a concert of 30,000 people.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: Bicent
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Ok first question. Why a country music concERT?
It was planned weeks if not months in advance.. again why a country music concert?


Okay, I'll answer both as a single question. Weeks I will agree with, months not so much. It was a gratis room for him, probably vacant. I'm thinking he adjusted his plans based on the room location, not the other way around.


Why not just going into a mall killing people woulda been easier..


Not nearly as "flashy". He wanted people to see his depravity. He wanted them to find the guns...even the ones he'd never use)


Why the construction of survalience of the room aka security?


Narcissism. He wanted all the credit. He didn't want anyone to take away his credit. He was a gambler...the most selfish human beings on the planet. It was all him. That's how he wanted it. NOTE...it's also why we're not hearing much about this...there's way too much information they don't understand right now. AND, the biggest question is "WHY?" There's lot's of data, videos and more out there. Authortities are still trying to understand.


Just a random mad attack really?


I think, in the end...yes...just random. He wanted to inflict pain. It went beyond any belief he had...just anger.


I respect your opinion just curious to hear how you reached your conclusion



Thanks...and there you have it.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: Lucidparadox


Not sure what to think of that guy. Videoing people dead...

I guess he was trying to help but paid no respect to the dead or the situation might wanna support the mods in not supporting this guy..



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