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Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy
In allot of the footage I heard two guns, then I had people on tv here and other places telling me it just sounded like that... so much speculation FBI not doing there job. We should know by now wtf was going on. This is gonna end up being a JFK conspiracy kinda, which is cool I guess we will never know and they're telling us it was just one guy. No way in hell I buy the "guy just snapped excuse thou ever"




posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: Diabolical1972

I think that's why so many people who listened to the scanners live have so many theories. There was A LOT discussed there. I mean... how do you fake armored cars? And then the "confirmed" car with explosives + "shooter" walking in EMPLOYEE entrance of Bellagio with rifle (as reported via dispatcher via employee) and then the employee at the Trop visibly (audibly) shaken because security guards were chasing "another security guard" and it leaves some pretty bizarre questions. That's despite the 23 "shots fired" reports all around town. OHHHH... and the MEDICS who reported they were being shot at...
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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:27 PM
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Yeah but tattoo shops usually have a special on Friday the 13th where you can choose different 13 tattoos for cheap. They usually make it a 13 hour event.
Just saying there are more than plenty of people more white bread than Paddock running around with 13 tattoos.
I bet there'll be an event at a shop in LV somewhere next Friday.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

You mean hearing audio of two guns firing at the same time doesn't suggest there are two people? It also suggest he was firing two guns, but in one of the audio clips available, the guns sound like they are firing from two different locations. One on the far window, and one on the close window, at the same time.
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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:28 PM
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originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Jonjonj

The problem that I have with that idea is that they may have had extreme difficulty leaving the scene unnoticed. Typically, those sort of terrorists tend to martyr themselves too.... like blow themselves and an end of the hotel up in the end.


I guess, the implication here being that the objective was to end the sting and the attack was just a rather beneficial opportunity that presented itself.


The sting part is easy to believe.
I could also easily believe that there was a second shooter.
The audio that sounds like two different weapons firing at the same time is the best evidence that has been presented of that...the only evidence of it so far, imo.


Because I have no experience at all of guns I leave the gunshot thing to the experts. I mean to my untrained ear it sounds like multiple weapons but a lot of people who are known, or at least seem to be known as having experience reject it.

The idea of his being an arms dealer though...that doesn't sound too crazy at all to me. All those guns, apparently only a couple (according to gun sound experts) used...Why all those guns?

Setting up an arms deal would explain all those guns perfectly.




posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: Bicent

All of that was in those links I posted that Diabolical replied to. ALL those things happened in that first 28 minute clip of the scanner (including the breach which is right at the beginning of that 28 minute scanner recording).



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:30 PM
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Yeah the police scanners had alot of info that no one is discussing.

Mainly that shooters were reported at Tropicana and Bellagio as well.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy

So think this one out...there is always a kink on a story and when we look back we cannot find it again. Media and internet hide it.

For some reason I am thinking the girlfriend is the key still...they screwed up the narrative early on when they said there was a woman in the crowd warning people..and it was supposed to be the girlfriend. Was that because the 'girlfriend' checked in and not him as the room was in her name. There was also talk of two cars. However, the girlfriend now is 'overseas'....cracks in the matrix...who was warning people?



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:31 PM
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Why was this allowed to continue for 71 minutes? Why was a sniper with a high powered scope and body armor not employed?
Why has nobody mentioned this?



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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a reply to: anonfamily

I heard that to, but the excuse I got was it was echoing or something.. either this is a stunt where it ends up political stricter gun laws etc. or this is a cover up for whatever reason. Or what the "experts"are saying is true and science is making it sound like that...



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

What's interesting about that too is they keep talking about having that couple (the two that were warning) people, "detained" in the first few minutes of the scanner talk. Then, no more...



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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originally posted by: CajunMetal
a reply to: Jonjonj

Yeah but tattoo shops usually have a special on Friday the 13th where you can choose different 13 tattoos for cheap. They usually make it a 13 hour event.
Just saying there are more than plenty of people more white bread than Paddock running around with 13 tattoos.
I bet there'll be an event at a shop in LV somewhere next Friday.


It was shadow not a tattoo



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox
Yeah the police scanners had alot of info that no one is discussing.

Mainly that shooters were reported at Tropicana and Bellagio as well.


Are there any recordings of that?

Have you ever been to Vegas? I happen to be there right now and I can tell you 100% that if their were shooters at the Trop , Bellagio or any other casino cell video of it would have been out there already..



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:34 PM
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I think the gf is a key to all this too... somehow. I keep wondering when she went overseas. Could she not have been there and then left / flown out in all the distraction of the 23 other "active shooter" reports that were found to be false? Is she really even overseas? Who knows? How?

But I think even the LVPD is now saying she's more important than they original thought / said...



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

Ya I agree with that, I think this was a fog of war kinda thing, had to be crazy at the police station during the real time shooting.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

If you scroll up, I posted three links for scanner recordings. Well, nevermind... here you go:
1st 28 minutes: www.youtube.com... (this covers everything that's been said)
www.youtube.com... (remainder)
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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:35 PM
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originally posted by: bluemooone2
Why was this allowed to continue for 71 minutes? Why was a sniper with a high powered scope and body armor not employed?
Why has nobody mentioned this?
The official story is that it was only 9 mins of sustained fire. What was happening in the time after? Assuming he shot the security at the 14 min mark. So much extra time that he was just sitting in there? Why did he stop firing if he had so much more ammo?



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:37 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

One of the reasons that I saw posted that it could not have been the girlfriend warning people in the crowd was that she is Filipino. The woman in the crowd was described as 'latino'.
I saw photos of the GF, she could easily be mistaken for Latino. In fact, many Filipinos have Spanish ancestors.

It could have been her.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:37 PM
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a reply to: antibren

OK Thank you. makes some sense.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Lucidparadox
Yeah the police scanners had alot of info that no one is discussing.

Mainly that shooters were reported at Tropicana and Bellagio as well.


Are there any recordings of that?

Have you ever been to Vegas? I happen to be there right now and I can tell you 100% that if their were shooters at the Trop , Bellagio or any other casino cell video of it would have been out there already..


I did see 4 or 5 videos on Facebook today of people running from supposed shooters in other hotels but I don't know vegas well enough to confirm that it was infact a different hotel.



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