Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

a reply to: Diabolical1972

Okay then, again you are just spewing stuff. Concussion grenade knocked the gun from his hand. You are inventing conspiracies when there is not one. It doesn't matter how the gun got out of his hands, there are thousands of plausible explanations rather than making up a conspiracy. I'd even go with Aliens beamed it out of his hands before I went with a conspiracy here.

a reply to: anonfamily

And our resident gun enthusiasts & experts have said this would still be reasonable for a one-man op, additional guns from other points to allow the previously used gun to cool down while using an alternate one. Something about getting hot enough to explode chambered rounds.

Really wish people would pay attention to our knowledgeable posters. I don't have nor fire guns, and paid attention to that assessment.

There is a lot of sketchy stuff going on with these leaked photos. The door to the hotel room looks like it has been through a door breach charge, but also bullets went through. According to the SWAT audio, we know they didn't have a gun fight before the door breach, so something happened before that. We have info about security guy and another SWAT officer getting shot at throught the door, but what else happened?

This increases the possibility that others were involved, and they made an escape, shooting their way out? I still think Stephan is a patsy.

a reply to: Nyiah

I am the resident gun expert. I am the one that mentioned bump stock being used long before media, police, and pictures confirmed it based on the audio and erratic cyclic rate. I know what is possible.

a reply to: anonfamily

Based on what information? You are inventing a conspiracy here. We are getting partial information and you are making stuff up.

Tinfoil hats --> Muzzle flashes on 4th floor
Normal people --> Reflection of the mirrored glass... Windows aren't broken.. Debunk

Tinfoil hats --> The gun is out of his hand and has a blood trail
Normal people --> Something knocked the gun out of his hand. Concussion grenade. LE, etc

Tinfoil hats --> There is blood on the revolver
Normal people --> Skipped through a puddle of blood. He cut his hand reloading .. There was broken glass in the room ...

originally posted by: anonfamily
a reply to: Nyiah

I am the resident gun expert. I am the one that mentioned bump stock being used long before media, police, and pictures confirmed it based on the audio and erratic cyclic rate. I know what is possible.

And yet, you're completely disregarding the hotel security guard who was shot through that door before SWAT got there, and making up a claim of a partner.

I think you're cherry-picking your "possibilities" without merit, as far as that scenario goes.

a reply to: mzinga

What conspiracy am I inventing? Those things you are saying are bunk I also agree with.

But also, I was awake and listening to the police scanner while this entire thing happened. See my activity on this topic. They detained several people, one of which was a white male wearing full camo and a backback whom claim he was involved.

Also, several reports of multiple shooters, and strike teams actually had to clear some floors twice because of it.

I was also watching every live video coming from instagram, twitter, and youtube, and a few of which I believe show evidence of two guns firing at different rates and patterns at the same time. Including their echo.

So before you talk, do your freaking research. It's still possible others were involved and they escaped before SWAT arrived.

a reply to: face23785

hurt the bottom line of the casinos by limiting people wanting to stay at them out of fear of being around for another shooting? tank their stocks as it apparently did? the house usually wins but this press it pretty bad for them and may effect their finances for a while after this.stocks took a hit,guests may be down and they cancled more then a few shows because of this ,perhaps this is the best method he thought he had to financially hurt them? we wont really know tell the cops let us see the note or tell us what his motivations were

a reply to: Nyiah

Cherry picking details is exactly how illogical conspiracies are born.

Bad conspiracy theories connect a lot of random details that fit their narrative to paint their conspiracy.

In the end its like taking three different math equations and making a proof.

Equation 1:

4x - 2 = 12

Equation 2
3Y + 6 = 14

Equation 3
2Z * 14 = 4

Therefore: 14+ 6 - 2= 18

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: anonfamily
a reply to: Nyiah

I am the resident gun expert. I am the one that mentioned bump stock being used long before media, police, and pictures confirmed it based on the audio and erratic cyclic rate. I know what is possible.

And yet, you're completely disregarding the hotel security guard who was shot through that door before SWAT got there, and making up a claim of a partner.

I think you're cherry-picking your "possibilities" without merit, as far as that scenario goes.

Again that was from one hour before the breach! No fire fight with the breech. Also no conclusion grenades were used.

a reply to: anonfamily

There isn't a shred of proof that exists that supports this theory.

There are many still people that think holographs hit WTC and a missile hit the Pentagon while thousands of peoples watched the planes IRL.

a reply to: Nyiah

I didn't disregard anything. I just mentioned the security guard was shot. I strictly recall saying that supports the idea that there was activity by the door before SWAT arrived, meaning someone could have left and escaped. Up until recently we all thought the one man shooter was focused only outside the window / hotel. We didn't know about this shootout with the security and swat ONE HOUR before the swat breached. This means something happened at the door, and possibly other suspects left. We also didn't know about the camera he had set up to watch the hallway.

Mix that with the fact this guy doesn't yet fit any profile, it seems all like a setup.

a reply to: antibren

Where'd the talk of concussion grenades come from? That's new to me, I missed that somewhere.

originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas
a reply to: face23785

hurt the bottom line of the casinos by limiting people wanting to stay at them out of fear of being around for another shooting? tank their stocks as it apparently did? the house usually wins but this press it pretty bad for them and may effect their finances for a while after this.stocks took a hit,guests may be down and they cancled more then a few shows because of this ,perhaps this is the best method he thought he had to financially hurt them? we wont really know tell the cops let us see the note or tell us what his motivations were

I'm pretty sure shooting up the casino itself and their guests would hurt the financial standing of the casino more and instilled more fear in people to visit them.

Sorry, it just doesn't add up. Still an outside possibility but I find it unlikely. He planned this well. I think he could have thought of a better way to get back at the casino than just smashing their window.

a reply to: Nyiah

If swat breached the door as is being reported then there was a concussion wave. Also somewhat standard protocol to use flashbangs etc during an entry. Not sure anyone has validated exactly how they entered the suite.

a reply to: Nyiah

I just put that out there because a different user has posted it twice

originally posted by: anonfamily
a reply to: Nyiah

I didn't disregard anything. I just mentioned the security guard was shot. I strictly recall saying that supports the idea that there was activity by the door before SWAT arrived, meaning someone could have left and escaped. Up until recently we all thought the one man shooter was focused only outside the window / hotel. We didn't know about this shootout with the security and swat before the swat breached. This means something happened at the door, and possibly other suspects left. We also didn't know about the camera he had set up to watch the hallway.

Mix that with the fact this guy doesn't yet fit any profile, it seems all like a setup.

Except for the fact that the news reported the security guard was shot in the leg through the door before SWAT arrived.

it was shown video hours before and days before that someone had a strobe light coming from a lower window, that has been put to rest

originally posted by: mzinga
a reply to: anonfamily

Based on what information? You are inventing a conspiracy here. We are getting partial information and you are making stuff up.

Tinfoil hats --> Muzzle flashes on 4th floor
Normal people --> Reflection of the mirrored glass... Windows aren't broken.. Debunk

Tinfoil hats --> The gun is out of his hand and has a blood trail
Normal people --> Something knocked the gun out of his hand. Concussion grenade. LE, etc

Tinfoil hats --> There is blood on the revolver
Normal people --> Skipped through a puddle of blood. He cut his hand reloading .. There was broken glass in the room ...

a reply to: Nyiah

Stun grenades were used in other rooms, and even other hotels at the time. Confirmed via police scanner. Not sure if one was used in the actual room the shooter(s) were in.

originally posted by: mzinga
a reply to: Nyiah

If swat breached the door as is being reported then there was a concussion wave. Also somewhat standard protocol to use flashbangs etc during an entry. Not sure anyone has validated exactly how they entered the suite.

Listen to the scanners!