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Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: antibren

Did casino security have any indication he was staying by himself? Remember the room was in Marilou's name. Not only that, while Paddock had a number of homes apparently he preferred to stay at casinos. If casino staff thought he was going to be with them for an extended stay then maybe ten bags doesn't sound unreasonable.

Of course this is all assuming casino staff even took an interest in his comings and goings. Considering his reputation among the casinos I don't think he was paid much attention. At least when he was off the floor.




posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: anonfamily
Why don't I see any high capacity magazines in those photos released? I only see standard 30 round mags, stacks of them. I know he was shooting more than 30 rounds at a time,

Also, I long suspected just by the sound of the fire rate that the gun was not a real full automatic gun, and it was just simulated full auto with a bump stock. The media is now confirming my observation, and images also show some guns with bump stock. The only problem is that bump stocks require the gun to move freely with the recoil in order to work. The gun can't be rested on anything, or full auto won't be possible. So that means bipods will not work. You need a special bipod that can allow the gun to move, and I am not seeing that in any photos. I am seeing standard bipods.........


All seem to have standard stocks too



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:05 PM
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Did they release pics of all 23 guns? Because if not, you guys are worrying over nothing.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:06 PM
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originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: antibren

I also find it strange he was wearing gloves? Worried about the fingerprints?



Ever handle or change a hot barrel?


Cmon he didn’t change barrels . All parties threw that out like 50 or 60 pages ago



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:06 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: antibren

Did casino security have any indication he was staying by himself? Remember the room was in Marilou's name. Not only that, while Paddock had a number of homes apparently he preferred to stay at casinos. If casino staff thought he was going to be with them for an extended stay then maybe ten bags doesn't sound unreasonable.

Of course this is all assuming casino staff even took an interest in his comings and goings. Considering his reputation among the casinos I don't think he was paid much attention. At least when he was off the floor.


Too logical, please refrain from making sense. Some of these folks are trying to get woke.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Just seconds after the SWAT had breached the door to his hotellrom they stated that the suspect was dead. This was on the radio recoring of the breach.

This implies that the police knew he was the only shooter.

Breaching and fully securing a room like this takes more then a second. I didnt even hear them clear any romes and state out loud CLEAR. All that was stated imidiatly after the breach was suspect down.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

The timelines I'm seeing have police reaching the room in about 16 minutes. It then took about another hour to breach.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:06 PM
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I know he was shooting more than 30 rounds at a time,


I guess he was there?



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth

The timelines I'm seeing have police reaching the room in about 16 minutes. It then took about another hour to breach.

Security in 16min then he shot one of them. They obviously devised a more thought out plan at that point.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: antibren

Of course this is all assuming casino staff even took an interest in his comings and goings.


I would guess not. They probably see outlandish stuff all the time and just do their jobs. You can't really fault them for that.




edit on 3-10-2017 by NarcolepticBuddha because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth

The timelines I'm seeing have police reaching the room in about 16 minutes. It then took about another hour to breach.


It think it was the mayor who said 4 minutes. lol

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"they were able to get up into Mandalay Bay in 4 minutes"
edit on 10/3/2017 by roadgravel because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:11 PM
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originally posted by: Komodo
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Automatic is automatic, moded or not


youtu.be...


Oh yeah with this footage yeah i can hear a seperate shooter. ONE of them is using a MIL machine gun sounds like. SO my guessing and th eother peoples guessing might both be correct on gun used. The seconf gunman dissapears while number 2 our patsy takes the hit.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: antibren

Did casino security have any indication he was staying by himself? Remember the room was in Marilou's name. Not only that, while Paddock had a number of homes apparently he preferred to stay at casinos. If casino staff thought he was going to be with them for an extended stay then maybe ten bags doesn't sound unreasonable.

Of course this is all assuming casino staff even took an interest in his comings and goings. Considering his reputation among the casinos I don't think he was paid much attention. At least when he was off the floor.


As someone myself who frequents Vegas several times a year and gets comped rooms.
Why did he check in under her name if he had such a stellar rep with the casinos?
Maybe somebody should have said “hey that whale is staying here not gambling and we have no evidence that he checked in.”



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: face23785

I want them to release the note that was on the table in the crime scene photos, and the footage from the camera he had set up to record everything.

Then, we will know his motives. The fact that it's been this long and the media isn't giving any information on a motive, is highly suspect.


Agreed.

Now the investigators may have a very good reason for not releasing this stuff yet.

Perhaps it clued them in to accomplices that they don't want to tip off.

But the people are entitled to know what the motive was, and this info of was that a note and if there was video from the shooter.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:13 PM
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He did have high capacity mags...

Those aren't 30rd mags.. they are thick at the bottom then taper at the top. They are a different style of high capacity magazine, I just forget what they are called .



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: antibren

No, one or two guns have bump stocks. You can tell because the stock and grip are one piece (when they are usually two) and you see an obvious separation between the lower and upper, so that the gun can recoil into the stock.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: antibren

I also find it strange he was wearing gloves? Worried about the fingerprints?



Ever handle or change a hot barrel?


Cmon he didn’t change barrels . All parties threw that out like 50 or 60 pages ago


Maybe that was th esecond unknown shooter then with the mIl spec machine gun.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
I counted five separate AR 15's in just the three crime scene photos that have been leaked. This is seeming more and more like a blatant false flag for gun control.

My husband says it's normal for a serious collector to have so many, and figures this guy was probably a serious one, albeit quietly. The "quietly" part, in his opinion, probably because he has high value ones (illegal or rare) stashed.

Hubby'd be a fairly good judge of that, he knows several collectors (friends and relatives) with triple-digit collections running the age & value gamuts. Some of them collect specific kinds of guns, specific era ranges of guns, and other just collect them to collect them, like gun-lover Pokemon.
How the f# people manage to afford to collect so many, and not the cheap stuff, is beyond me (even my husband wonders this, it's not a cheap hobby) I guess this is the gun equivalent of a car addict or art addict.

The fact that it's a possibility makes both him & the collectors he knows nervous about any resulting extra attention from this, because it puts a microscope on them for the fact that either a collector can go bat guano, or a bat guano person can amass such a collection. Nobody wants to be associated with that no matter how straight-laced they are, but they know it has merit for scrutiny.
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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
I counted five separate AR 15's in just the three crime scene photos that have been leaked. This is seeming more and more like a blatant false flag for gun control.


I'm sure in the 150-pages of this thread someone has posted a link to the crime scene photos, but I would like to see a link to see these 5 ARs... the 'facts' of the case are sounding like total madness. Whoever did this HAD to be crazy, but that sounds like overkill



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: antibren

I also find it strange he was wearing gloves? Worried about the fingerprints?



Ever handle or change a hot barrel?


Cmon he didn’t change barrels . All parties threw that out like 50 or 60 pages ago


Just giving you a good reason to wear gloves. Clearing jams in a hot mechanism, changing barrels, just handling the barrels. All decent reasons to have gloves on before hand, even if he didn't do any of them.







 
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