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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: antibren

How many cameras are there between the front entrance and the elevators? How many people are in frame of even one of those cameras at any given time? Multiply that over 72 hours. Just finding him in all of that footage is going to be like finding a needle in a haystack.




posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: antibren

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: opethPA

I might be wrong. I remember seeing early reports that said 10 days. Even then three days worth of footage from hundreds of cameras is going to take a while to sift through.

Not for the LARGE team they have working through it.


And you think Joe Public would be privy to that knowledge as soon as it is found why? They won't reveal jack squat if they feel it could compromise the investigation.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: CynConcepts

4chan. Internet sleuths and anons seem to be the only ones putting out information about the shooter at this point.


And they sure are on a spree of being entirely incorrect.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 01:50 PM
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a reply to: Dutchowl
I swear this cases has traces of the Nash case in California back in 2015.

All we need is for someone to come forward saying he told them he was an alien or some other being.

Maybe he did. Maybe that is why the woman was warning the concert goers of their imminent demise.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 01:51 PM
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Hmmm this is interesting. Not sure how much it ties into the actual shooting, but certainly something to keep in the back of someone's mind. I don't want to comment further just to avoid setting any kind of tone. The video is only 4 minutes long so you wont lose a lot of time out of your day.

I will say this though, MGM International owns Mandalay Bay and they have some interesting ties themselves...




posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth


The shooter must have been smart enough to bypass any sensors on the windows (if they have them for safety) but so crude as to use a hammer to break the window?


Why would he have to bypass the sensor? Odds are he began firing immediately after breaking the window. At which point casino security has bigger problems than investigating a broken window. For all we know him tripping the sensor may have been the reason SWAT knew exactly where to go.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: antibren

How many cameras are there between the front entrance and the elevators? How many people are in frame of even one of those cameras at any given time? Multiply that over 72 hours. Just finding him in all of that footage is going to be like finding a needle in a haystack.


You are seriously underestimating the technology that casinos use to cover literally every square inch of that place. They could start at his check in time and follow him around seamlessly transitioning to the next camera. It honestly wouldn’t be that hard.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth


The shooter must have been smart enough to bypass any sensors on the windows (if they have them for safety) but so crude as to use a hammer to break the window?


Why would he have to bypass the sensor? Odds are he began firing immediately after breaking the window. At which point casino security has bigger problems than investigating a broken window. For all we know him tripping the sensor may have been the reason SWAT knew exactly where to go.


How long before the shooting started and the police arriving at the room?



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth


The shooter must have been smart enough to bypass any sensors on the windows (if they have them for safety) but so crude as to use a hammer to break the window?


Why would he have to bypass the sensor? Odds are he began firing immediately after breaking the window. At which point casino security has bigger problems than investigating a broken window. For all we know him tripping the sensor may have been the reason SWAT knew exactly where to go.


How long before the shooting started and the police arriving at the room?


CNN just did a good timeline on this..
The whole event played out over 1 hour and 12 minutes.
It was basically an hour from the time the security guard got shot through the door to the time SWAT was on site to breach the room.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 01:54 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth


The shooter must have been smart enough to bypass any sensors on the windows (if they have them for safety) but so crude as to use a hammer to break the window?


Why would he have to bypass the sensor? Odds are he began firing immediately after breaking the window. At which point casino security has bigger problems than investigating a broken window. For all we know him tripping the sensor may have been the reason SWAT knew exactly where to go.


How long before the shooting started and the police arriving at the room?


Close to a hour. Also scanners detail that they know the room he is from the fire alarms going off in said room



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 01:54 PM
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a reply to: antibren

So they can follow him from the moment he checks in to the moment he hits the elevators. At which point there's no way to know when he's leaving his room and heading back down to his car or anything. As was posted a long time back in this thread most casinos don't have cameras outside of the lobby and the casino floor.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Also most hotels have side doors you can come in through. If you use the side doors fewer guests and staff will see you bringing in big heavy suitcases over and over. You won't arouse anyone's suspicion.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: antibren

So they can follow him from the moment he checks in to the moment he hits the elevators. At which point there's no way to know when he's leaving his room and heading back down to his car or anything. As was posted a long time back in this thread most casinos don't have cameras outside of the lobby and the casino floor.


Yes from the moment he checked in they could follow every step. A elevator isn’t a abyss clearly also cameras in there as well.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 01:58 PM
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FBI anons posting crime scene photos on 4chan. Some are too brutal to show here. Right-click and view image for closer look.


edit on 3-10-2017 by Konduit because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 02:00 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth


The shooter must have been smart enough to bypass any sensors on the windows (if they have them for safety) but so crude as to use a hammer to break the window?


Why would he have to bypass the sensor? Odds are he began firing immediately after breaking the window. At which point casino security has bigger problems than investigating a broken window. For all we know him tripping the sensor may have been the reason SWAT knew exactly where to go.


MSN, yesterday, reported that the LEO's deducted --- that when a smoke alarm was activated in a room...it was the shooter's location.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

Kinda gives you a warm fuzzy feeling, huh???



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: antibren

Nor is it that hard, which is why other Casino's are releasing footage of his slipping lawsuit a few years back.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: UKTruth


The shooter must have been smart enough to bypass any sensors on the windows (if they have them for safety) but so crude as to use a hammer to break the window?


Why would he have to bypass the sensor? Odds are he began firing immediately after breaking the window. At which point casino security has bigger problems than investigating a broken window. For all we know him tripping the sensor may have been the reason SWAT knew exactly where to go.


How long before the shooting started and the police arriving at the room?


CNN just did a good timeline on this..
The whole event played out over 1 hour and 12 minutes.
It was basically an hour from the time the security guard got shot through the door to the time SWAT was on site to breach the room.


That's a long time.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: Erno86

They also keep saying he used a tripod when it was a bipod. I'm not saying that it couldn't be the smoke detector that alerted the authorities. At the same time though the media hasn't exactly been spot on when it comes to the details.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
FBI anons posting crime scene photos on 4chan. Some are too brutal to show here. Right-click and view image for closer look.



is that a note on the table ?



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