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Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: roadgravel
I believe it was the mayor who stated it only took police 4 minutes to subdue the shooter. That doesn't sound like reality.


Everytime I have been in the Mandalay Bay there were armed policesecurity in the building.
It's not hard to imagine that the security that responded and allegedly got shot in the leg got there within 4 mins.


Yet it was reported he fired for 10 to 15 minutes. A swat team is positioned in the hotel. Wasn't it said swat did the entry?




posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta
a reply to: elementalgrove

I see a lot of the OSer discounting these videos of shots coming from the lower level floors on this thread based on "but the windows arnt broken " . Thats fine , but how do they explain the shots clearly coming from the lower floors ? This compilation makes it more clear. Their is more to the story then we are being told .


Where is their a single irrefutable clip , pixelated videos that could be other things dont count, showing shots clearly coming from the lower floors?



Really dude ?
youtu.be...





Like i said..video that cant be explained as something else unlike that YouTube compilation..



I don't know what you are saying . Your structure isn't making sens to me at all.


Can you elaborate a little more please .


The video compilation that all of the "shooter on lower levels" people are showing is pixelated and can also be explained as a strobe light, reflection or other things.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: jrod
I found a video that appears to show muzzle flashes on a much lower floor.



(Age restricted video)


Figured i would bump this. This thread is moving fast.


Yea jrod let's bump it.

Ty !

I posted a grainy video of shots fired from the lower level floors a like 20 pages back . It was quickly discounted. " where is the broken glass " I agree ...where is it ? I am baffled because dearly these videos show shots coming from the lower levels .



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta
a reply to: elementalgrove

I see a lot of the OSer discounting these videos of shots coming from the lower level floors on this thread based on "but the windows arnt broken " . Thats fine , but how do they explain the shots clearly coming from the lower floors ? This compilation makes it more clear. Their is more to the story then we are being told .


Where is their a single irrefutable clip , pixelated videos that could be other things dont count, showing shots clearly coming from the lower floors?



Really dude ?
youtu.be...





Like i said..video that cant be explained as something else unlike that YouTube compilation..



I don't know what you are saying . Your structure isn't making sens to me at all.


Can you elaborate a little more please .


The video compilation that all of the "shooter on lower levels" people are showing is pixelated and can also be explained as a strobe light, reflection or other things.


Strobe like matching the gun burst sounds...
Along with whiteness testimony
Yeah ok .
edit on 06/17/2015 by Kapusta because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:52 AM
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What's next....there was some sort of training exercise in progress while the shooter was killing people?

Sound familiar?

What's this look like? The cops wouldn't have warned those guys just standing around that there is an active shooter? This looks so contrived.



edit on 3-10-2017 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta
a reply to: elementalgrove

I see a lot of the OSer discounting these videos of shots coming from the lower level floors on this thread based on "but the windows arnt broken " . Thats fine , but how do they explain the shots clearly coming from the lower floors ? This compilation makes it more clear. Their is more to the story then we are being told .


Where is their a single irrefutable clip , pixelated videos that could be other things dont count, showing shots clearly coming from the lower floors?



Really dude ?
youtu.be...





Like i said..video that cant be explained as something else unlike that YouTube compilation..



I don't know what you are saying . Your structure isn't making sens to me at all.


Can you elaborate a little more please .


The video compilation that all of the "shooter on lower levels" people are showing is pixelated and can also be explained as a strobe light, reflection or other things.


Strobe like matching the gun burst sounds...


Yeah ok .


Except for the part where the sound doesnt match the lights..

Its okay..Your convinced there were other shooters based off the evidence you see..Im convinved their were not based off the evidence i see.

Dont see this going anywhere.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta
a reply to: elementalgrove

I see a lot of the OSer discounting these videos of shots coming from the lower level floors on this thread based on "but the windows arnt broken " . Thats fine , but how do they explain the shots clearly coming from the lower floors ? This compilation makes it more clear. Their is more to the story then we are being told .


Where is their a single irrefutable clip , pixelated videos that could be other things dont count, showing shots clearly coming from the lower floors?



Really dude ?
youtu.be...





Like i said..video that cant be explained as something else unlike that YouTube compilation..



I don't know what you are saying . Your structure isn't making sens to me at all.


Can you elaborate a little more please .


The video compilation that all of the "shooter on lower levels" people are showing is pixelated and can also be explained as a strobe light, reflection or other things.


Strobe like matching the gun burst sounds...
Along with whiteness testimony
Yeah ok .


Watch enough of these clips and you'll see that particular light does flash in spots where there's no audio to support it as being gunfire.



edit on 3-10-2017 by NarcolepticBuddha because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:55 AM
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Published timeline from Fox news.


10:08 p.m.

There are reports “of multiple shots being fired from the direction of the Mandalay Bay towards the Route 91 concert that was taking place on the East side of Las Vegas Boulevard,” Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Monday, per Deadline.

10:38 p.m.

“We're investigating reports of an active shooter near/around Mandalay Bay Casino,” police tweet. “Asking everyone to please avoid the area.”

11 p.m.

Part of the Las Vegas Strip is shut down, authorities tweet.

11:58 p.m.

“Confirming that one suspect is down,” Las Vegas police tweet. “This is an active investigation. Again, please do not head down to the Strip at this time.”

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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:58 AM
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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:58 AM
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I used to drive a cab. This driver, well wow I can empathize completely. Ill just leave it at that. Good for her though good for her



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta
a reply to: elementalgrove

I see a lot of the OSer discounting these videos of shots coming from the lower level floors on this thread based on "but the windows arnt broken " . Thats fine , but how do they explain the shots clearly coming from the lower floors ? This compilation makes it more clear. Their is more to the story then we are being told .


Where is their a single irrefutable clip , pixelated videos that could be other things dont count, showing shots clearly coming from the lower floors?



Really dude ?
youtu.be...





Like i said..video that cant be explained as something else unlike that YouTube compilation..



I don't know what you are saying . Your structure isn't making sens to me at all.


Can you elaborate a little more please .


The video compilation that all of the "shooter on lower levels" people are showing is pixelated and can also be explained as a strobe light, reflection or other things.


Strobe like matching the gun burst sounds...


Yeah ok .


Except for the part where the sound doesnt match the lights..

Its okay..Your convinced there were other shooters based off the evidence you see..Im convinved their were not based off the evidence i see.

Dont see this going anywhere.



Light travels faster then sound . So it will be off . What you need to look for is the pausing of the light vs the firing .



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: jrod
I found a video that appears to show muzzle flashes on a much lower floor.



(Age restricted video)


Figured i would bump this. This thread is moving fast.


Yea jrod let's bump it.

Ty !

I posted a grainy video of shots fired from the lower level floors a like 20 pages back . It was quickly discounted. " where is the broken glass " I agree ...where is it ? I am baffled because dearly these videos show shots coming from the lower levels .


I am not sure what some people want.

You propose a theory, or evidence, others ask questions about it.

I can only speak for myself, but this is not me writing you off.

So I am asking, if there was a fourth floor shooter, how come no Windows were blown out, how come no on in the hotel heard it, how come employees the next day saw nothing reported in a fourth floor room, how come trained police officers aren't speaking out that there was clearly a second shooter?



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 12:00 PM
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a reply to: Kapusta

The distance isn't very far. The delay would be quite short.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Kapusta
a reply to: elementalgrove

I see a lot of the OSer discounting these videos of shots coming from the lower level floors on this thread based on "but the windows arnt broken " . Thats fine , but how do they explain the shots clearly coming from the lower floors ? This compilation makes it more clear. Their is more to the story then we are being told .


Where is their a single irrefutable clip , pixelated videos that could be other things dont count, showing shots clearly coming from the lower floors?



Really dude ?
youtu.be...





Like i said..video that cant be explained as something else unlike that YouTube compilation..



I don't know what you are saying . Your structure isn't making sens to me at all.


Can you elaborate a little more please .


The video compilation that all of the "shooter on lower levels" people are showing is pixelated and can also be explained as a strobe light, reflection or other things.


Strobe like matching the gun burst sounds...
Along with whiteness testimony
Yeah ok .


Is that a special kind of testimony given by white witnesses?

All kidding aside..

In the moment the police are going to assume everything...multiple shooters, bombs, terrorist attack etc.
UNTIL they KNOW otherwise.

So yes police are going to be spread out and positioned for hell breaking loose.

Yes..the police scanner noted a strobe light on the lower floor at the time.

Yes..the video people are pointing to on the 5th floor appears very much to be a party/strobe light.

NO..With thousands of people and police at the scene afterwards, they did not secretly lower a window replacement team on the fifth floor and replace that window.

Conspiracy is entertaining, but critical thinking is required to arrive at substance.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: turbo8

Carpet's the same. Powder burns to the face, consistent with a point blank gunshot wound. Lot's of arterial blood consistent with a severe traumatic head wound. Heavy bleeding from the nose which would support being upright when at the time of the shot. Probably shot to the mouth (which is pretty much 100% effective for suicide). Likely exit wound top-back of skull, hence the pool of thick blood and brain tissue when he was rolled over.

They must have moved him (which seems plausible). Probably laying face down and they rolled him over, hence the congealed blood on the left (older more soaked in blood on right).

Looks pretty legit to me. If that's staged, someone's got some serious talent and knows what they're doing. I'm guessing law enforcement is none too happy about this photo getting leaked!!



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 12:04 PM
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This was all planned....and he was not broke. Someone assisted this guy though in some way. May not have been 'two' shooters but I cannot see him pulling this off alone.

www.nbcnews.com...




Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock wired $100,000 to an account in his live-in girlfriend’s home country of the Philippines in the week before he killed at least 59 people in the worst mass shooting in U.S. history, according to multiple senior law enforcement officials. Marilou Danley, 62, traveled to Hong Kong on Sept. 25 and was in the Philippines on Oct. 1, when Paddock began his rampage, say officials, but it’s not known whether the money was intended for her, her family or another purpose.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

I had thought it could be a reflection from shots fired outside the building. I watched the videos numerous times and it seems as thought the shots and flashes don't really match all the time. There are what appears to be flashes with no firing also.

The hotel personnel would know if there was some type of light at that spot.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
Look at this picture, are the rooms that massive it looks like he was shooting from 2 rooms?

you can book a suite and an adjoining room with a connected door...someone posted the drawing of the suite they are pretty big so yes the window could be that far apart



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: roadgravel
a reply to: Grambler

I had thought it could be a reflection from shots fired outside the building. I watched the videos numerous times and it seems as thought the shots and flashes don't really match all the time. There are what appears to be flashes with no firing also.

The hotel personnel would know if there was some type of light at that spot.


it was reported that someone had a strobe light going off in one of the other windows all week that what that was



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