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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

How do we know it took 4 days? How do we know that one or two nice trunks he tipped a bellboy even to haul them up for him?




posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:18 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: yuppa

An M-249 shoots a 7.62mm x 51mm cartridge (or '7.62 NATO round). An M-16 shoots a 5.56mm x 45mm cartridge (5.56 NATO).


Are you sure that a Light Machine Gun, 5.56 mm, M249, shoots 7.62 NATO?



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Who even said he needed to sneak them in? As I mentioned yesterday, it seems like Paddock had a reputation as a bit of a whale. The casinos are going to let him bring in whatever he wants and they won't bat an eye.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I thought I read somewhere here on ATS (possibly even this thread) where someone posted a link to a story which said the hotel had him on tape making at least (10) trips inside with bags over a four day period.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: greyhat

No, I corrected this in a later post.

The M249 shoots 5.56mm NATO

The M240 is the one which shoots 7.62 NATO. I was thinking of the M240B when I posted that.

edit...and to be perfectly candid, what I was actually thinking about was the M60 when comparing sound, which was the context of the post.
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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

From my time on the matter I've mostly seen 'rumors' or what are tantamount to being rumors. People mentioning stuff herein, that they 'heard' or saw on tv; This even accounts for official stuff as the details they've released are vague in go no where. Even the dudes brother he was full of BS. Someone been following the past 40+ pages might get a copy paste thing of actual solid data keep reposting it in here perhaps...
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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

What happens in Vegas is recorded on video in Vegas. Casinos have a lot of security, most of it unseen.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Perhaps I should have expressed myself in another way....

To use the Trump supporters favorite response...."It's "Fake News" agenda driven BS."

Now the question is....what is the ultimate agenda? And who are the instigators?

It's a deep rabbit hole; not an open and closed case because it's more convenient.


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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:26 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

No real argument there.

There's a whole lot of BS circulating around about this tragedy.

ETA...I've tried for pages and pages to correct most of the firearms related BS (look back in the 120's), but there's a lot more not related to firearms.




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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: olaru12

Keeping all the suspicious types one hell of a diversion. Dont release much of any useful data keep everyone scratching their heads while something sinister is happening elsewhere. Put a strobe light in one of the other windows to really get people clammoring. One or two good crisis actors to say they had forewarning down in the crowd that night................................

Added caveats stoke political divisions.

Then send Hillary out get everyone fighting about gun control silencers blah blah blah.

TPTB do worst stuff than this by the score. Just look at how they sent Al Qaeda in to overthrow the Syrian government, it failed, 400,000 DEAD, and they blamed it on russia because it happened to be their ally.

If anyone thinks our masters care about any one of us they've gotta be out of their minds.
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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

A theory I put about 9/11 forward back in the day was the 'proof' of the conspiracy was how absolutely over the top each scene was to try and get one solid irrefutable narrative. The more details you add up about say Flight 93 the less sense it makes. Of the several possible conclusions one can reach, they have all of the data to argue their case indefinitely, and so does the people of the other viewpoints. My argument then was it was the same model utilized during the JFK assassination.

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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: AnonymousCitizen

Yeah, what was the movie...maybe Ocean's Eleven...where Andy Garcia says..."I see everything"?

Casinos have some of the most elaborate CCTV systems in the world.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Yesterday I was thinking there might have been some heist we're not hearing about.

In "3000 Miles to Graceland (2001)"... well maybe it was "Ocean's 11 (2001)", someones said to someone about how crazy they were to try to rip off Vegas, and I forget the exact line, but the response was about how because nothing like it had ever been tried and it will work because the only big heists that work havent never been thought of before and are brazenly bold they'd never expect someone to even attempt such a thing.
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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
but anyways... I just came in to let yas all know about the FAKE NEWS.. that so many had been spreading...

www.theguardian.com...

The handwriting on the wall is not fading.

It is been etched into the surface and will soon not be removable without bring down the whole wall.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: olaru12

And sometimes insane people do insane things.

Is that the case here? Remains to be seen. But I don't think hanging your hat on the "they said it was multiple gunmen....while the situation was in its early stages" as being proof of some hidden agenda is gonna get anywhere.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:41 AM
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Doesn't anybody find it curious that with all the footage of the 4th floor window with apparent muzzle flash or at least seemingly, why didn't any muzzle flash catch anybody's eye from higher up? Seems if it was occurring from there people would have wanted to focus on that as well yes?



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:43 AM
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Hmm, from this video it does look like there are more shooters. Mandela Bay view from a cab perspective




posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


Yesterday I was thinking there might have been some heist we're not hearing about.


Now there's an interesting angle.

What a better way to tie up all of LV's finest, right?

I don't think that's what happened, but still...

edit...actually, the more I think about that, it would tend to explain a couple things...most notably the delayed LEO response. I wonder if the authorities were thinking it was a diversion for something else.


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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: onehuman

I've seen two different clips now, from both edges of the building that face that lot (I mean totally different rooms), of the 'strobe light'.

Havent seen photo evidence those windows were busted out.

Meaning IF strobe lights were added well he's one clever bastard or you had better warm your tinfoil hat in the microwave before you put it on...

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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 10:46 AM
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originally posted by: Diabolical1972
Hmm, from this video it does look like there are more shooters. Mandela Bay view from a cab perspective



To me it doesnt look like a second shooter but rather something you can see on any night which is either internal lights or reflections...



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