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Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 06:56 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

I understand what you are saying, and I too have no idea what the motives could be, there is zero info on that. Few things are on my mind though.

This had to be planned for a long time. I am not sure how long do you need to pre-book a suite like that in Mandalay Bay especially with conditions like, it has to be elevated for a good line of sight, it has to be within the date of the concert and it has to be with the correct side for the windows.

MSM says repeatedly, he carried 23 rifles/guns in ten bags. Why is there zero cctv footage from the hotel lobby still? Ok I know it happened only less than 48 hours ago but it would kinda help them to prove the lone gunman theory? Also a youtube video surfaced within 3 hours after they released his name, where he allegedly participated in an anti Trump protest?

Still no manifest of any kind? They already raided his hotel room and his homes but nothing other than more guns?

I am sure(?) answers are coming though




posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:01 AM
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a reply to: Domo1



You get that ^ because you made me laugh despite a very sobering subject matter!

But... who the heck is Chad?



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:09 AM
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a reply to: Justoneman

This was already proven to be a strobe light. A) my friends working the event commented about it, as it was in the window for DAYSSSSS on end and it was driving them nuts. B) On the news yesterday a witness at the event had mentioned the strobe light in the window all week also. Move on, there is no conspiracy, it was a nut job on the 32nd floor.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:17 AM
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a reply to: elysiumfire

i know there is only one shooter or have not seen to evidence to suggest otherwise, just found it interesting getting a feel for the timing on the situation. the cab driver seems to be there in the area start to finish.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:31 AM
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a reply to: szino9

I think where the planning is concerned, it would hardly be work for a genius to organise this, but you are absolutely right that time and effort went into the planning of this horrific event.

But where you mention lobby footage and a manifest, I really do not believe for a moment that the police are under any obligation, at this early stage, to publish or release ANY footage of the shooter, until they have gone over the entirety of the CCTV themselves, to ensure that they get as much from it as they can, with the understanding that when they have gained all they can from the footage, they will consider publishing it for archival purposes and public information. With regard to the manifest, it might be wise for them to be somewhat circumspect in withholding that data until they have followed up any leads pertaining to the weapons themselves. For example, if any of them were purchased illegally, or used in other crimes, or rentals from a criminal outfit (weirder things have been known to happen), keeping the details close to their chest, may allow the police to establish identity of other involved parties, without those parties thinking they are necessarily on the radar, so to speak.

I can see a few instances where an investigating body might want to keep things tight for the moment, and only release certain details after a decent amount of time has passed, purely to aid investigative efforts and keep witnesses unbiased, apart from anything else.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:38 AM
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a reply to: szino9

You're seriously complaining that there's no footage yet? This happened barely 24 hours ago. The police have 10 days worth of footage to go over from numerous cameras with a fine tooth comb.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:45 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

I would not say that I am "seriously complaining", it was just a question which had been answered quite fully by TrueBrit.

Thank you for your input though!



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:53 AM
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Look at this picture, are the rooms that massive it looks like he was shooting from 2 rooms?


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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: Blue_Jay33

If he booked a suite, then possibly.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 08:03 AM
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a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Vegas hotels, of the massive and famous variety, can have ENORMOUS suites, and some will have those connecting doors, so that families can have separate spaces, with the convenience of easy access between them.

Obviously, there will be smaller rooms available, but some folks can afford to splash out on these things, and if the perpetrator knew he was going on the long trip across the river, its not beyond imagination that he could have shelled out any crazy amount to secure the space he wanted to utilise in this event.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 08:08 AM
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Video might someday be selectively released. It will be that which confirms the official story. Officials don't want to deal with things like "If it A, why does this video show B".



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 08:27 AM
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a reply to: roadgravel

Or, more commonly, "Why does the video APPEAR to show B"

Video is not standardised in quality of either its visual or audiological fidelity. It can be difficult to make accurate analysis of any video, without significant experience in AV forensics, some would even say that a bare minimum of non-standard equipment or software would be necessary to say anything absolutely definitive, about a given piece of on the fly videography.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 08:33 AM
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I think it was you TrueBrit that asked why the 4th floor windows weren't smashed out too yes? Apparently the windows can be opened as seen by these two photos below. This could change a lot of narrative I think.






posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 08:39 AM
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a reply to: onehuman

Those windows look completely removed. After living in Vegas for 10 years I can tell you with 10000% certainty that is not possible if you are booked in that room.

Those rooms with missing windows were undoubtedly being cleaned or replaced with no occupancy.


ETA this was done as a safety precaution for GAMBLING. The fear would be after a horrific loss, someone would jump. It was seen as an insurance liability as it should be to leave a window accessible to open
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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: onehuman

So there's a few windows missing they don't weld them in place. They probably replace them from time to time and do maintenance. I'm willing to bet for safety reasons they're not easy to open for the average person.

Common sense.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: onehuman

I would be interested to know how far apart those pictures were taken. If you notice the same windows are "open" in both shots.

Personally I can't imagine a casino would have windows that open. The risk of jumpers would be too great.

We've also have at least one person on here that regularly stays at the Mandalay Bay. They made it sound like the windows don't open.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 08:46 AM
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Another thing it's a casino. You think after taking all your money they're going to leave windows accessible in high places?



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 08:47 AM
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Hey I don't know, all I know is these photos came up and I thought id share them. Seems they are in kind of spotty places for replacement. Not claiming what you are saying isn't true either. Up to the other readers to decide for themselves.

Guess we would need to hear from someone that stayed there and did open them themselves just as much as we have heard from one who says you cant



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 08:47 AM
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originally posted by: roadgravel
Video might someday be selectively released. It will be that which confirms the official story. Officials don't want to deal with things like "If it A, why does this video show B".


Correct. Because when entire conspiracy theories are built on things like “well your radio traffic said there was three shooters” and completely ignores the fact that said radio traffic was transmitted in the middle of an active situation and then people fixate on that one point and ignore the other, it gets tiresome trying to answer every last flight of fancy.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254



Never mind jumpers. There are families with small kids that stay in hotels. Windows with the ability to open just begs for a tragedy.

And if the windows can open why would the shooter on the 32nd floor smash those windows?



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