Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

BTW, probably someone has already mentioned this, but he used a fully automatic weapon. Those are extremely hard to get in the U.S. This man also had explosives and many other weapons at his home, which tells me he had planned this for a long time, and had contacts within the weapons black market.

You cannot get a fully automatic weapon anymore in most weapon stores. Not to mention, if this man had psychiatric problems, the process to get automatic weapons would have found out about his psychiatric problems, and wouldn't have allowed him to get a permit, or buy any old fully automatic weapons. So this man had contacts in the weapons black market.

Gawd 104 pages and most of it repeat repeat repeat! I understand that some people dont want to or haven't the patience to read the entire thread but it would sure prevent the same questions being asked over and over again.....I fail to see how anyone can grasp the full facts as known, without actually reading the thread!! And it would certainly have made the thread shorter and more readable for those with limited stamina /rant over

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I believe you but do you have a source on that? I haven't seen mention of the weapons used yet.

I'm wondering if another poster was correct and he just flew himself down to Mexico. Would probably be a lot cheaper and easier and avoid potential red flags.

Go to the video as posted at

inforwars (yeah, I know) and it looks like some flashes without sound. Not sure this is related to the shots.

Someone else might see it different and give feedback.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Not sure if someone else has posted it, but Israel news call the shooter as "Samir al-Hajib"
www.israelnationalnews.com...

Also, according to Paul Joseph Watson: "The alleged photo circulating of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock has a different date of birth. That's not the shooter."
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Zerohedge has also the following to add.

by Tyler Durden
Oct 2, 2017 10:22 AM

In a bizarre development, the Islamic State's news agency Amaq has claimed responsibility for the Las Vegas concert attack, alleging that Stephen Paddock is one of its "soldiers" and that he converted to Islam "months ago".

To be sure, there is no evidence for these claims, and the statement comes after the Las Vegas police stated earlier that there is no link to international terrorism.
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www.zerohedge.com...

According to zerohedge "Site Intel Group" this man converted to Islam months ago.
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My condolences to the families of the dead, and to the injured. God bless.

That samir name is a 4 Chan hoax.

They always name these shooters some form of Sam Hyde who is a comedian I guess.

Some weird trolling thing I am too old to understand.

a reply to: AMPTAH

They have lots of problems, Muslims don't drink alcohol and don't gamble, and don't hang out with unmarried women etc...

Wanna bet? You should see where I live, plenty of "muslims" pissed up & gambling and as for women let's see, besides the UK grooming gangs of young white girls, most of them run the prostitutes too!! Just because the good book says you shouldn't do something doesn't mean they follow it. Just like most religions cherry picking is rife (or ripe lol)

a reply to: Lysergic
and orlando.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Zytryx

Look like reflections to me.

Looks like muzzle flash. I don't see anything similar above or below.

I have seen that at night fire sessions with M16's locked and loaded in the days of my youth in the Army, and it IS muzzle flash to me.

originally posted by: Kapusta
a reply to: butcherguy

From what I read on the comments .the Windows are fairly simple to replace . So I dono.

You saw what I saw . The muzzle flash matched the sound.

I doubt that it is too easy to remove them. The point of non-opening windows is to keep people from accidentally falling out or intentionally jumping to their deaths.
The shooter removed the windows by breaking them out with a 'hammer-like object'. If it was easy to take them out, I doubt that he would have risked injury by breaking them.

a reply to: AMPTAH

Why is it so hard to believe that he was yet another Muslim radical? Yesterday there were at least two other attacks by Muslim extremists. One in Canada in which the Muslim who was trying to get refugee status ran over first a police officer, got off the car and stabbed to death the officer. Then he continued driving through crowds.

EDMONTON, Alberta (Reuters) - A Somali refugee who had been on a watch list over extremist views faced five counts of attempted murder and terror charges on Sunday after Canadian police said he stabbed a police officer and ran down four pedestrians with a car in Edmonton, Alberta.

The suspect, a 30-year-old man whom police did not identify,

had been investigated two years ago for promoting extremist ideology but was not deemed a threat, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) said.
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Somali refugee faces terror charges in Canada stabbing, car attacks


In the other attack another Muslim radical in France sliced the throat of a woman, and stabbed the other to death while screaming "allah akbar" (or whatever is spelled...)

This is the new Europe. Terrorist attacks like these are not an aberration. They're the new normal.

And the new normal procedure is to bury them as crimes or just the random attacks of random madmen, randomly shouting, "Allahu Akbar".

A man shouting 'Allahu Akbar' has stabbed two women to death with a butcher's knife before being gunned down by soldiers in Marseille.

One woman was repeatedly stabbed in the stomach before were throat 'was slit', while another woman was attacked from behind outside Saint Charles train station

Eyewitnesses of this afternoon's attack told how a man 'dressed in black' launched himself at the two women, who screamed for their lives as others ran for safety.

The assailant was quickly gunned down by police and soldiers who were on patrol inside the station at the time as part of France's ongoing state of emergency.
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Muslim Terrorist Shouting, "Allahu Akbar" Slits Woman's Throat in France

Just because there is so much "political correctness" all over the world is not stopping these sort of attacks.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Zytryx

Look like reflections to me.

Looks like muzzle flash. I don't see anything similar above or below.

I have seen that at night fire sessions with M16's locked and loaded in the days of my youth in the Army, and it IS muzzle flash to me.

It also appears to flash erratically, instead of a fixed pattern like I would expect a strobe light to do..

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

he was a high stakes gambler that got himself into trouble in a casino that the russian mob was tied into...
the mob knew that their godfather putin wanted to give trump a big black eye for not being able to deliver on his part of the deal, so they gave this guy a choice, either getting shot and both kneecaps and dropped off in the desert to die, or doing them a small favor... he took the more painless way out...

this is far more believable to me than the idea that the guy was a 60+ year old recently converted radical muslim,
or a member of antifa..

not saying that I actually believe the garbage I just typed onto my screen here, just that it's more believable than the other two options.

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: AMPTAH

They have lots of problems, Muslims don't drink alcohol and don't gamble, and don't hang out with unmarried women etc...

Wanna bet? You should see where I live, plenty of "muslims" pissed up & gambling and as for women let's see, besides the UK grooming gangs of young white girls, most of them run the prostitutes too!! Just because the good book says you shouldn't do something doesn't mean they follow it. Just like most religions cherry picking is rife (or ripe lol)

Yeah. Those are the "normal" muslims. Who, just like the Christians, see the holy book as something to follow when you have time.

But, the "radicalized" muslims are heavily into Islam, they follow the book, that's why they think its ok to kill, because the book says so.

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: AMPTAH

They have lots of problems, Muslims don't drink alcohol and don't gamble, and don't hang out with unmarried women etc...

Wanna bet? You should see where I live, plenty of "muslims" pissed up & gambling and as for women let's see, besides the UK grooming gangs of young white girls, most of them run the prostitutes too!! Just because the good book says you shouldn't do something doesn't mean they follow it. Just like most religions cherry picking is rife (or ripe lol)

Their prophet was also a psychopath, a murderer, a rapist including child raping and a womanizer who had 12-13 wives when he supposedly said that the angel Gabriel told him Muslim men could only marry 4 wives... It shouldn't surprise anyone that many Muslims do the same things their prophet did.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
BTW, probably someone has already mentioned this, but he used a fully automatic weapon. Those are extremely hard to get in the U.S. This man also had explosives and many other weapons at his home, which tells me he had planned this for a long time, and had contacts within the weapons black market.

You cannot get a fully automatic weapon anymore in most weapon stores. Not to mention, if this man had psychiatric problems, the process to get automatic weapons would have found out about his psychiatric problems, and wouldn't have allowed him to get a permit, or buy any old fully automatic weapons. So this man had contacts in the weapons black market.

This is all assuming his mental illness is documented in through the channels that show up in the background check. A lot of times stuff isn't reported the right way and it doesn't wind up creating a red flag during background checks. The GOP tried to fix this with a bill last year but Dems voted it down because it wasn't their bill.

a reply to: Justoneman

You're confusing Sunnis with the violent branch of Wahhabis, the reform movement that was started in the 1700s. All Wahhabis consider themselves a revival movement of the "Salafis" (which is a sect that existed before Sunnis were even formed), though not all branches preach violence. However, all Wahhabi-type Salafis consider Sunni Islam to be tainted & watered down. They're also the ones with a blood feud with Shia Islam.

ISIS, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Al Shabaab, and Boko Haram are all Wahhabi-type Salafis like that. Not only do they also attack Sunnis like the Kurds & the Muslims in Nigeria, but they typically boost their numbers by recruiting poor and/or disillusioned Sunnis who are disgruntled with their Sunni communities.

originally posted by: dawnstar
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not saying that I actually believe the garbage I just typed onto my screen here, just that it's more believable than the other two options.

Why because you say so?... That claim you made YOU made up without any evidence. There is evidence that shows this man was a Muslim convert.

Just got back in and heard a rumor that the shooter had left a post on Facebook... is this true?

TheRedneck

a reply to: dawnstar

or what about option no. 3? That he was NOT a lone gunman, was in fact going to the gun show in Vegas this week, and was conveniently set up to take the fall, which is why there were reports of more than one gunman as they would need more and back up and of course to off the patsy, who was probably already dead when they took over his hotel room. Antifa crap was planted in his home and hotel room. Why? To push through the legislation to make Antifa a terrorist organisation perhaps?
Tis a thought

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

he was a high stakes gambler that got himself into trouble in a casino that the russian mob was tied into...
the mob knew that their godfather putin wanted to give trump a big black eye for not being able to deliver on his part of the deal, so they gave this guy a choice, either getting shot and both kneecaps and dropped off in the desert to die, or doing them a small favor... he took the more painless way out...

this is far more believable to me than the idea that the guy was a 60+ year old recently converted radical muslim,
or a member of antifa..

not saying that I actually believe the garbage I just typed onto my screen here, just that it's more believable than the other two options.

I knew Uncle Vlad had to be involved somehow.