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False.
New York Times Opinion Page Endorses Communism
Also false. Not to mention that the OpEd is about China, not the USSR.
The basic jest is that the Soviet Union created womens rights or something.
When historians researched the collectivization of the Chinese countryside in the 1950s, an event believed to have empowered rural women by offering them employment, they discovered a complicated picture. While women indeed contributed enormously to collective farming, they rarely rose to positions of responsibility; they remained outsiders in communes organized around their husbands’ family and village relationships. Studies also showed that women routinely performed physically demanding jobs but earned less than men, since the lighter, most valued tasks involving large animals or machinery were usually reserved for men.
originally posted by: Phage
False.
New York Times Opinion Page Endorses Communism
Also false. Not to mention that the OpEd is about China, not the USSR.
The basic jest is that the Soviet Union created womens rights or something.
When historians researched the collectivization of the Chinese countryside in the 1950s, an event believed to have empowered rural women by offering them employment, they discovered a complicated picture. While women indeed contributed enormously to collective farming, they rarely rose to positions of responsibility; they remained outsiders in communes organized around their husbands’ family and village relationships. Studies also showed that women routinely performed physically demanding jobs but earned less than men, since the lighter, most valued tasks involving large animals or machinery were usually reserved for men.
www.nytimes.com...
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
People associate communism.. with communism with dictators.
I think communism could work if it was a true Democratic communist set up without a central leader, and instead, an elected council with equal representation.
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
People associate communism.. with communism with dictators.
I think communism could work if it was a true Democratic communist set up without a central leader, and instead, an elected council with equal representation.
Take, for example, an op-ed published this week by the New York Times headlined, "How Did Women Fare in China's Communist Revolution?"
The main thrust of the article, which is little more than a shameful bit of apologia for Mao Zedong, who is personally responsible for more than 45 million deaths, is that Chinese women were liberated by the country's great and murderous Cultural Revolution.
No. That is not the thrust of the article. By a long shot.
The main thrust of the article, which is little more than a shameful bit of apologia for Mao Zedong, who is personally responsible for more than 45 million deaths, is that Chinese women were liberated by the country's great and murderous Cultural Revolution.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Lucidparadox
Doesn't have much to do with the OP, or the NYT OpEd.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Lucidparadox
Doesn't have much to do with the OP, or the NYT OpEd.
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Lucidparadox
Doesn't have much to do with the OP, or the NYT OpEd.
Well the OP called out NYT for " showing who they really Are" then posted a video of a guy who explains "why it's dumb... essentially displaying only negative connotations with communism.
I was simply saying that it's not fair to do so, because I believe I can be done right it just hasn't been.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Lucidparadox
Doesn't have much to do with the OP, or the NYT OpEd.
Well the OP called out NYT for " showing who they really Are" then posted a video of a guy who explains "why it's dumb... essentially displaying only negative connotations with communism.
I was simply saying that it's not fair to do so, because I believe I can be done right it just hasn't been.
If I am not mistaken, Karl Marx and Mao both realized that no form of government, communism or otherwise, would ever be perfect and therefore the country must be in a constant state of revolution. Always pushing what works and tossing out that which does not. Always progressing forward.
Communism and simple socialism can and does work. We witnessed that in WW2, but it is imperfect and must be progressed by adding ideas and elements that further the betterment of society, which may actually come in conflict with communist ideals.
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Lucidparadox
Doesn't have much to do with the OP, or the NYT OpEd.
Well the OP called out NYT for " showing who they really Are" then posted a video of a guy who explains "why it's dumb... essentially displaying only negative connotations with communism.
I was simply saying that it's not fair to do so, because I believe I can be done right it just hasn't been.
If I am not mistaken, Karl Marx and Mao both realized that no form of government, communism or otherwise, would ever be perfect and therefore the country must be in a constant state of revolution. Always pushing what works and tossing out that which does not. Always progressing forward.
Communism and simple socialism can and does work. We witnessed that in WW2, but it is imperfect and must be progressed by adding ideas and elements that further the betterment of society, which may actually come in conflict with communist ideals.
So in other more simplified terms, communism must always be fixed and repaired because it is broken from the get-go. It might work, but people will die. Okay, thanks for the heads up.
originally posted by: infolurker
OMG another one.. "if only communism was done right !"
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Lucidparadox
Pure communism FAILS when one person says: "NOPE, I dont agree and wont play along". Then it has to be enforced. Guess what comes next...