Man Slips into Coma After 9 Hour ER Wait-Dies 2 years Later-Family Suing Hospital

a reply to: seasonal

They do end up charging 2 different proces for insured and uninsured. How is it not when they own the hospitals? so when the hospital sends a bill to the insurance company that owns the hospital they are just billing themselves.

It should be illegal.

a reply to: notsure1

yep

a reply to: seasonal

I was in a wreck last year, went to the ER and my midsection was really sore, they put me through some scanner machine for about 5 minutes. They billed the insurance 9600$ just for that, over 13000 for the total visit.

Now can you imagine how broke insurance companies would be if they actually had to come off of 10k every time someone went to the ER?

1000$ everytime someone took an ambulance 50 frikin $ for every aspirin.

Biggest problem in America IMO.

a reply to: notsure1

I think the lobbying is the biggest problem. This gave us the mess we are in and why the R and D's can't change a damn thing about the ACA. Remember how brave repubs were? They had to repeal it. Given the chance-nothin. They suck.

Our politicians are the best lobby money can buy.

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: manuelram16

originally posted by: notsure1
Wow the hospital should be sued out of existence IMO. When you have the gall to charge 50$ for an aspirin and 80$ for a bed pan , 20$ for a pair of plastic gloves, You better do your effing job right.

Yes and all the Doctors and Nurses also should be sued so to oblivion....until we have no Hospitals, Doctors and Nurses. And you wonder why Healthcare costs are up in the clouds.

I have been wondering that my whole life? 50$ for an aspirin. And insurance companies own most of the hospitals .

So I wonder why hospitals charge so much hmmmmm... It should be illegal.

Insurance companies do not own the majority of hospitals. Where did you come up with that?

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: notsure1

I think the lobbying is the biggest problem. This gave us the mess we are in and why the R and D's can't change a damn thing about the ACA. Remember how brave repubs were? They had to repeal it. Given the chance-nothin. They suck.

Our politicians are the best lobby money can buy.

I remember Trump said he was gonna mke insurance companies show their books. I guess they bought him off too.

This is one thing I dont even really see the left talking about either.

Important shi is just never imprtant enough.

a reply to: notsure1

You and I are not important. The $$ is much much more important than the US voter.

This is not that hard to understand, Canada has a system that by all accounts is working. And for less than 1/2 the cost.

A for profit system only puts pressure to raise prices, every quarter profits must increase.

originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: manuelram16

originally posted by: notsure1
Wow the hospital should be sued out of existence IMO. When you have the gall to charge 50$ for an aspirin and 80$ for a bed pan , 20$ for a pair of plastic gloves, You better do your effing job right.

Yes and all the Doctors and Nurses also should be sued so to oblivion....until we have no Hospitals, Doctors and Nurses. And you wonder why Healthcare costs are up in the clouds.

I have been wondering that my whole life? 50$ for an aspirin. And insurance companies own most of the hospitals .

So I wonder why hospitals charge so much hmmmmm... It should be illegal.

Insurance companies do not own the majority of hospitals. Where did you come up with that?

The Quiet Takeover: Insurers Buying Physicians and Hospitals

www.beckershospitalreview.com...

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: notsure1

Anywhere else charging one price for no insurance and one price for insurance (higher) would be considered insurance fraud.
But it is health care so anything goes.

No they scare you with those prices to force you to pay their outrageous premiums every month to avoid those charges.

This IMO should be illegal,

You are forgetting the number of people who use the hospital and never pay because they either can't or won't and the insurance providers who undercut the real cost of care for every patient they provide (Medicare, Medicaid ... oh, that's right government who only pays $0.80 on the dollar on average for its claims). All that isn't covered by those groups has to be shifted elsewhere.

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: manuelram16

originally posted by: notsure1
Wow the hospital should be sued out of existence IMO. When you have the gall to charge 50$ for an aspirin and 80$ for a bed pan , 20$ for a pair of plastic gloves, You better do your effing job right.

Yes and all the Doctors and Nurses also should be sued so to oblivion....until we have no Hospitals, Doctors and Nurses. And you wonder why Healthcare costs are up in the clouds.

I have been wondering that my whole life? 50$ for an aspirin. And insurance companies own most of the hospitals .

So I wonder why hospitals charge so much hmmmmm... It should be illegal.

Insurance companies do not own the majority of hospitals. Where did you come up with that?

The Quiet Takeover: Insurers Buying Physicians and Hospitals

www.beckershospitalreview.com...

And since, thanks to Obamacare, the government pretty much runs the insurance companies now and owns them too since they have to be bailed out, we can see the Trojan Horse for single payer we were told it was.

Do you all like it?

a reply to: seasonal

How long until this turns into a race issue or has it already?

a reply to: seasonal

Sitting in hospital with a god damn head injury? Are Fu@#$%^ kidding me?



My wife died do to a lack of insurance that didn't kick in til it was to late.
Linda Shores 8 21 65 / 7 13 17

RIP my forever love

a reply to: randyvs

I am sorry about your wife. The problem is not going to be corrected until all people unite and do what is best for the 96%.
We are separated by kneeling, BLM, KKK, colleges and the list is endless. Because it works. There are very workable systems in other countries, but for profit health care is designed to raise prices, every quarter profits need to go up.

We are screwed.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: notsure1

Anywhere else charging one price for no insurance and one price for insurance (higher) would be considered insurance fraud.
But it is health care so anything goes.

Yeah, if you charge $5.00 for a gallon of water after a hurricane, it's criminal price gouging, but if the hospital charges $8.00 for the same bottle, it's healthcare. Medicare for all, with negotiated pricing, is the only answer that makes sense.

The largest expense in healthcare is healthcare insurance. Because people sew hospitals and doctors pay billions to insurance agents. Hospitals can easily pay a couple a million a year.

a reply to: dragonridr

Do you have a source for that?

If they're ever being poky in an emergency room, just threaten to throw up. That gets people moving very fast.

a reply to: F4guy

Yes, this whole scheme is going to collapse. And that happens when the average dumb ass (me) looks at the cost of sh!tty insurance and says screw it, I have a mortgage to pay.

There are other countries that do a much better job at a much better cost.

a reply to: seasonal

It may never change even after it gets ugly.

But ugly is coming.

a reply to: randyvs

Yep, there is never enough profit. The system is set up to fail, and they are grabbing the silverware and copper wire out of the walls before it all goes balls up.