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Why is Trump allowed to disrespect America?

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posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 10:59 AM
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a reply to: seeker1963

Whoever said there was anything wrong with celebrating Christmas? What's wrong with not celebrating Christmas or simply choosing to say, "Happy Holidays?" What's wrong with Starbucks choosing not to write "Merry Christmas" on their cups?




posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:00 AM
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Just wish half of you all would grow up and just do the small part that makes other people who DON'T live in America love the way we can come together just to do small act.


First, why do you care what other countries think? Trump doesn't care after all. America first!

More importantly, why do you endorse supporting a fantasy? All countries have issues. ALL of them. Some countries don't allow the public to have a say in those problems. A few do - like our country. You are sadly mistaken if you think people want to come here because it's all peaches and cream and unicorns. They come here because of exactly what you are complaining about. The ability to have a voice - free speech - protest without being tossed in prison.

It's funny.. America doesn't know how good it has it. Take jury duty - it's a HUGE pain for poor Americans. They make excuses to get out of it. Out of the 195 countries on this planet, 21 allow someone to be judged by a jury of their peers. It's an incredible benefit that Americans take for granted, unless of course they need it themselves one day.

The day this country is FORCED to salute our flag, or be punished, is the day this country has gone down a very dark path. This country was built on freedoms, not conditional freedoms that Trump is trying to cram down everyone's throats.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:02 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: seeker1963

Whoever said there was anything wrong with celebrating Christmas? What's wrong with not celebrating Christmas or simply choosing to say, "Happy Holidays?" What's wrong with Starbucks choosing not to write "Merry Christmas" on their cups?


Because you can't have non-Christians getting all uppity and thinking they're equal now ... can ya?



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

Hey now. Let's not get TOO extreme. 7th grade vocabulary. We wouldn't want to strain his intelligence or anything.


A Man can pray to the Many Faced God and hope.


A girl has no president.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Because you can't have non-Christians getting all uppity and thinking they're equal now ... can ya?


Not to get too far off topic but I'm hoping this year we can really dig into the fact that many of the original colonists didn't celebrate Christmas and actually banned it several times. #OriginalOGWarOnChristmas





edit on 26-9-2017 by AugustusMasonicus because: I ♥ cheese pizza.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: Abysha
A girl has no president.


Be careful before he sends the Faceless Men to get you.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: matafuchs

Standing for the anthem is also specified in the NFL rules.

No it isn't.



The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


...from the NFL Game Operations Manual.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: matafuchs

Standing for the anthem is also specified in the NFL rules.

No it isn't.



The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


...from the NFL Game Operations Manual.

First off, where is your link? Second off, I bolded a few words that you should look up in a dictionary.

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.

edit on 26-9-2017 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:10 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Not straw man. I am actually being serious because it is something I deal with my son everyday about based on things he hears in school.

I have had to explain the difference between racism, prejudice and pride. They are three things but the media wants you think they are one. Just like this 'stand' they are taking. It is the children who watch the sports I am most concerned. Becuase where you or I may have a level head you know there are millions of kids hearing a biased view and not explaining the real reason. Ignorant whites will say ' niggas at it again' and black people will say 'racist old white dudes trying to be in charge and control us' . DO NOT EVEN TRY to say those are not the narratives in homes across the country and it needs to end but with things like this, sorry, it will not.

Again, it is for oppression of blacks, right? Non-equal treatment? So why so many blacks in sports making millions if they are oppressed. If you want an equal country stop separating it. Our president is not.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:11 AM
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...the other hand I wish he said it in a more intelligent way that made more sense.


That's never going to happen. He doesn't even realize his perception of reality does match the rest of the world.

I keep hoping for him to change.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:11 AM
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Where were you for the eight years Obama was destroying the US. And no you want to blast Trump?



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

So ignore the actual rule being explained to say...should.



we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country.


and right now they are.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:14 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: matafuchs

Standing for the anthem is also specified in the NFL rules.

No it isn't.



The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


...from the NFL Game Operations Manual.

First off, where is your link? Second off, I bolded a few words that you should look up in a dictionary.

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


LOL, you missed the part where the MUST be on the sideline, so we can say that the players broke the rules regardless of standing.
As for "should", it's clearly not a suggestion.
You stepped in it like Snopes (is that your oracle)... they had to backtrack after claiming there were no rules too, LOL. Took them an hour to shout false and then they crawled back into their shells.

edit on 26/9/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:14 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: matafuchs

Other nations laugh at us because 1) we elected Donald Trump, 2) we think that a flag is more important than people.

Exactly. Revere the flag but cut social programs and maintain the largest prison population in the world.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:15 AM
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Again, it is for oppression of blacks, right? Non-equal treatment? So why so many blacks in sports making millions if they are oppressed.


The US is a wealthy country. Why doesn't every citizen have a better life?



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: matafuchs

Other nations laugh at us because 1) we elected Donald Trump, 2) we think that a flag is more important than people.

Exactly. Revere the flag but cut social programs and maintain the largest prison population in the world.


Of which an overwhelmingly ridiculous percentage are just the people these protests are about.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:16 AM
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let's say that the next president happens to be a looney liberal who decides that making people work on labor day is just so disrespectful to the laborers of this country, and takes aim at the little corner stores that are planning on being open that day... are any of yous gonna be supporting that president if he decides to take aim at the 7/11's like trump has been doing with the NFL calling them to boycott the 7/11s?
or come up with any equally looney thing you wish really..
it's bad enough that every time the power switches hands in washington we see the federal funds being drained from some segments of the economy while others get the windfalls, back and forth, with companies ending up weaker and weaker...
do we really want the politicians resorting to this kind of dirty politics against those businesses also??

if you accept this behavior from trump, then you accept the same from every politician that comes thereafter!!!
do you want those future politician playing this kind of dirty politics against you business, against your employer???



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: roadgravel



Again, it is for oppression of blacks, right? Non-equal treatment? So why so many blacks in sports making millions if they are oppressed.


The US is a wealthy country. Why doesn't every citizen have a better life?


Equal opportunity, not equal outcome.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: matafuchs

Standing for the anthem is also specified in the NFL rules.

No it isn't.



The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


...from the NFL Game Operations Manual.

First off, where is your link? Second off, I bolded a few words that you should look up in a dictionary.

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


LOL, you missed the part where the MUST be on the sideline, so we can say that the players broke the rules regardless of standing.

Um... No I didn't. The players kneeling are still on the sideline aren't they?

As for "should", it's clearly not a suggestion.

Yes. Yes it is. When the ruling uses the word "must" in relation to where they are on the field before it starts then switches to should that means the requirement is different. Any court of law would make swiss cheese of this argument you are attempting. Should and must have very different definitions and both are used throughout the ruling for different things. It is very clear as to what the players are required to do and what they are merely suggested to do.

You stepped in it like Snopes (is that your oracle)... they had to backtrack after claiming there were no rules too, LOL. Took them an hour to shout false and then they crawled back into their shells.

Says the guy who doesn't know what the word "should" means.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: matafuchs

How is responding to the rule itself ignoring it? Do you understand the words you type before you type them?



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