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Republicans Want to Tie ObamaCare Repeal to Tax-Cuts for Americans.

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posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 08:56 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: carewemust

Brought to you by the repubs and dems, the best politicians the medical lobby can buy.


I'm watching the CNN healthcare debate with Sanders/Graham/Cassidy and a lady Senator from Minnesota. The medical lobby wants to keep LUCRATIVE ObamaCare.




posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: carewemust

I once heard someone from a red state say a flat tax is not fair because their taxes would go up.


What's most important is that lower taxes for individuals and small businesses will enable more money to flow into the economy. People will not take their additional discretionary income and put it in the bank. They'll spend it.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: the owlbear


Agreed. Insurance Companies are not needed for the small stuff. It's like having a $0 Deductible on your car insurance. Every time you get a scratch or ding in the paint, you'd take the car to the body-shop for repair. Imagine what that "benefit" would do to your car insurance premium.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 09:04 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: JinMI


I've stated several times on ATS, even BEFORE the election, that the Republican establishment would rather have Hillary instead of Donald Trump. They demonstrated this by their ACTIONS (or lack thereof) during the 2016 campaign.


Fair enough. Your OP didn't sound like that.

I would agree, current GOP would have loved a HRC presidency.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 09:07 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: carewemust

I once heard someone from a red state say a flat tax is not fair because their taxes would go up.


What's most important is that lower taxes for individuals and small businesses will enable more money to flow into the economy. People will not take their additional discretionary income and put it in the bank. They'll spend it.


A person with $10,000,000/year pays a flat tax of 10% on all purchases.
A person with $17,500/year pays a flat tax of 10% on all purchases.

The person with the lower income will have to spend everything just to get by, meanwhile, his landlord making $10,000,000 will be able to buy things online and out of country and never have to pay the flat tax rate because he can afford lawyers in the know...



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: stormcell


Americans just need to decide how much MORE we are willing to pay for a Universal Single-Payer system. From there, you run models to ascertain what the out-of-pocket and benefit support would be.

Like going grocery shopping on a budget. You determine what's most important and buy those items.

Bernie Sander's PROPOSED plan would cost every ADULT (Age 18 thru 64) American $10,000 a year in additional taxes and fees.
($2 Trillion divided by 193 million = $10,000)

Needless to say, it would be watered-down. What the American public is willing to spend, will dictate how much a Medicare-for-All plan would be watered down.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 09:27 PM
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Since those are donations and we're supposed to get tax writeoffs for donations there should be some fringe benefit (to get getting screwed over).



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 04:57 AM
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a reply to: carewemust
Al they have to do is make Obama care optional,right now it is a facist act bestoyed upon taxpayers,done so in a socialist act that was the outgoing regimes plan,I never got to vote on it,all I got was"we are witholding your federal ans state income taxes,to pay for fine for not enrolling in Obamacare,these puke ass libs think this is ok,but this was an act of a dictator



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 06:18 AM
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a reply to: jtma508

But they did promise to repeal if the people would give them state legislatures, the house, the Senate, the presidency. I watch the interviews on cspsn during campaigning seasons.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: the owlbear

Where on earth do you live?

Where I am at, every grocery store in my area has such a clinic with a nurse practitioner they are connected either to the local hospital or to the local health clinic network and open all days per week whenever the grocery store is, sometimes even 24/7.

They can handle most minor illnesses and injuries.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 07:34 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Of course, since we are all then on the same plan, what the most people decide is the most benefit is what it covers. If you have a condition that is rare or needs personalized care, you are SOL.

That's the big problem with socialized care. It pays for things on a bell curve and if you are an outlier, screw you!



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 08:18 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: carewemust
Right now?
I think republicans couldn't pour piss from a boot if the instructions were written on the heel.
And if they did, they'd call it 'trickle-down economics'!



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: carewemust

Of course, since we are all then on the same plan, what the most people decide is the most benefit is what it covers. If you have a condition that is rare or needs personalized care, you are SOL.

That's the big problem with socialized care. It pays for things on a bell curve and if you are an outlier, screw you!


I think we're going to end up there, because Republicans are refusing work with Democrats. Today, they're deciding whether to forge ahead with combining HealthCare Reform with Tax Cuts.

They want to convert much of the $3 Trillion that ObamaCare will cost over the next 10 years, into Tax Cuts.

That's a NON-STARTER, In my opinion.

Trump should just meet with Nancy and Chuck over dinner and fix ObamaCare for now.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: JinMI


I've stated several times on ATS, even BEFORE the election, that the Republican establishment would rather have Hillary instead of Donald Trump. They demonstrated this by their ACTIONS (or lack thereof) during the 2016 campaign.

Oh, my, YES!!!!

It's the Neo-Con agenda.....HRC was to win.

And the Neo-Cons are on both sides of the aisle.
edit on Tue Sep 26 2017 by DontTreadOnMe because: SPELLING



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 02:01 PM
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originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: JinMI


I've stated several times on ATS, even BEFORE the election, that the Republican establishment would rather have Hillary instead of Donald Trump. They demonstrated this by their ACTIONS (or lack thereof) during the 2016 campaign.

Oh, my, YES!!!!
It's the Ne-Con agenda.....HRC was to win.
And the Neo-Cons are on both sides of the aisle.
Really...thanks for sorting that out!
edit on 26-9-2017 by JohnnyCanuck because: yes




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