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Kneeling during the anthem is honoring what our founding fathers fought for

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posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
Funny when I try to point out the thousands that are killed in inner cities around the world and attribute that toe left-wing terrorists I get shouted down.

Probably because attributing gang violence to terrorism dilutes the definition of the word and shows you don't know what it means. And if you are talking about BLM then you are being disingenuous. BLM isn't responsible for all the inner city deaths around the world.
edit on 27-9-2017 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: DrStevenBrule

I don't have a problem with the Anthem chants OR the kneeling. Tradition isn't as important to me as my right to free speech and protest are.


I agree with you fully on both.

I think where we deviate is on the time and place.



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Well when they compete, like they are doing in this current controversy, I side with my rights over tradition.



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Kaepernick's parents, which adopted him, are white.

His mother is also white, was destitute and have him up for adoption.

Why? Obviously the genetic donor could not live up to responsibilities.

Start there, perhaps.

This 'whole thing' has sand for a foundarion and is a fad.

But no one is laughing.

Mg




edit on 27-9-2017 by missed_gear because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Sure.

From 2008 to 2016 right-wing terrorism accounted for 79 deaths in the US.

Source


Mentions absolutely nothing about Tea Party members.


Tea Party members aren't right-wing? Tea Party members don't have open threats of violence at their meetings?

Did you say something about confirmation bias earlier?


Funny when I try to point out the thousands that are killed in inner cities around the world and attribute that toe left-wing terrorists I get shouted down.

Let me ask the question again, because BLM members did kill police officers, when did a tea-party member murder anyone over political views?

Please provide evidence.


Tea Party members kill thousands in the inner cities? I've missed that thread.

You don't have any evidence that BLM members killed police officers, if you do share it.

Remember When Andrew Joseph Stack Flew a Plane Into a Texas IRS Building - The Atlantic



On February 23, 2010, Robert Wright, writing for the Times' Opinionator blog, looked at "The First Tea Party Terrorist?" His column on the Andrew Joseph Stack incident is chilling in retrospect and in light of the IRS's subsequent decision to begin sorting exemption applications for groups with "Tea Party, "Patriot" "9/12" and other conservative buzzwords in their names for referral to a specialist.

On February 18th, Stack had flown a small airplane into an IRS office in Austin, Texas, killing himself and IRS agent Vernon Hunter and injuring 13 on the ground. Stack left behind a six-page rant against the federal government and the IRS.



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Sure.

From 2008 to 2016 right-wing terrorism accounted for 79 deaths in the US.

Source


Mentions absolutely nothing about Tea Party members.


Tea Party members aren't right-wing? Tea Party members don't have open threats of violence at their meetings?

Did you say something about confirmation bias earlier?


Funny when I try to point out the thousands that are killed in inner cities around the world and attribute that toe left-wing terrorists I get shouted down.

Let me ask the question again, because BLM members did kill police officers, when did a tea-party member murder anyone over political views?

Please provide evidence.
thanks thats the point I wanted to make about the Tea Party rallies. They were always non-violent pro America. Look at Antifa and their violent protests and Krazyshot wants me to delineate what leftism is.



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

As a non-U.S. person, I agree with you and your founding fathers basically did the same thing in first protesting then rejecting injust British rule including that flag and songs, and whatever they were suppose to stand for. They created their own country, flag and songs in response to being treated unjustly. Just something to think about.



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: missed_gear
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Kaepernick's parents, which adopted him, are white.

His mother is also white, was destitute and have him up for adoption.

Why? Obviously the genetic donor could not live up to responsibilities.

Start there, perhaps.

This 'whole thing' has sand for a foundarion and is a fad.

But no one is laughing.

Mg



I agree... I do not know how one associates with anything these days. Is there really a black/white/brown difference anymore? I would say that Asian in many places have kept their purity and culture but Kaepernick is a perfect upper middle class white boy...



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Sure.

From 2008 to 2016 right-wing terrorism accounted for 79 deaths in the US.

Source


Mentions absolutely nothing about Tea Party members.


Tea Party members aren't right-wing? Tea Party members don't have open threats of violence at their meetings?

Did you say something about confirmation bias earlier?


Funny when I try to point out the thousands that are killed in inner cities around the world and attribute that toe left-wing terrorists I get shouted down.

Let me ask the question again, because BLM members did kill police officers, when did a tea-party member murder anyone over political views?

Please provide evidence.
thanks thats the point I wanted to make about the Tea Party rallies. They were always non-violent pro America. Look at Antifa and their violent protests and Krazyshot wants me to delineate what leftism is.


This is simply untrue. Violence at Tea Party rallies is well documented. Commonly, they talked about rebelling against the US Government. Your idea of what constitutes "pro-America" is absurd.

Violence at Tea Party Rallies - Christian Science Monitor

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posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: missed_gear
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Kaepernick's parents, which adopted him, are white.

His mother is also white, was destitute and have him up for adoption.

Why? Obviously the genetic donor could not live up to responsibilities.

Start there, perhaps.

This 'whole thing' has sand for a foundarion and is a fad.

But no one is laughing.

Mg




This sounds 100% irrelevant and even slightly offensive.



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: missed_gear

So, single parent families produce individuals who make millions and stand up for what they believe in?

Interesting claim.



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Sure.

From 2008 to 2016 right-wing terrorism accounted for 79 deaths in the US.

Source


Mentions absolutely nothing about Tea Party members.


Tea Party members aren't right-wing? Tea Party members don't have open threats of violence at their meetings?

Did you say something about confirmation bias earlier?


Funny when I try to point out the thousands that are killed in inner cities around the world and attribute that toe left-wing terrorists I get shouted down.

Let me ask the question again, because BLM members did kill police officers, when did a tea-party member murder anyone over political views?

Please provide evidence.


Tea Party members kill thousands in the inner cities? I've missed that thread.

You don't have any evidence that BLM members killed police officers, if you do share it.

Remember When Andrew Joseph Stack Flew a Plane Into a Texas IRS Building - The Atlantic



On February 23, 2010, Robert Wright, writing for the Times' Opinionator blog, looked at "The First Tea Party Terrorist?" His column on the Andrew Joseph Stack incident is chilling in retrospect and in light of the IRS's subsequent decision to begin sorting exemption applications for groups with "Tea Party, "Patriot" "9/12" and other conservative buzzwords in their names for referral to a specialist.

On February 18th, Stack had flown a small airplane into an IRS office in Austin, Texas, killing himself and IRS agent Vernon Hunter and injuring 13 on the ground. Stack left behind a six-page rant against the federal government and the IRS.


Here is an article on the BLM member that ambushed and killed 5 police officers.

None of my sources seem good enough, so I choose the most neutral source I could find

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: DrStevenBrule

From your source:



Johnson was an Army Reserve Afghan War veteran who was reportedly angry over police shootings of black men and stated that he wanted to kill white people, especially white police officers.


Perhaps you can link the part of your source that states Johnson was a BLM member?



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t


How is it offensive? Do tell.

Equality of races, as I understand, was the original point.

He lived a white privileged life and protests?

Many of us, that are minorities less than blacks, most of us veterans, don't and won't respect this.

We just laugh.

Mg



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: intrepid Reply to Intrepid, it is not against the rules, you can call and voice your opinion for or against the policy.



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Yeah. The only references I see to BLM in that wiki article are people blaming the organization after the fact, but I see no explicit affiliation mentioned between Johnson and BLM. The article does mention that he searched for the following organizations before the shooting but it doesn't suggest that he was a member of them either:

An investigation into his online activities uncovered his interest in black nationalist groups.[77] The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and news outlets reported that Johnson "liked" the Facebook pages of black nationalist organizations such as the New Black Panther Party (NBPP), Nation of Islam, and Black Riders Liberation Army, three groups which are listed by the SPLC as hate groups.[88] On Facebook, Johnson posted an angry and "disjointed" post against white people on July 2, several days before the attack.[89]

Still no BLM though.
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posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Gryphon66

Yeah. The only references I see to BLM in that wiki article are people blaming the organization after the fact, but I see no explicit affiliation mentioned between Johnson and BLM.


Indeed.



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: nmaben
a reply to: intrepid Reply to Intrepid, it is not against the rules, you can call and voice your opinion for or against the policy.



You might want to read the T&C:


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posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t I'm suggesting nothing of the sort, simply pointing out, that when you're going to use your Pulpit to pontificate, especially when you're disrespecting your fans, your country, your National symbols. One might wish to look in the mirror and do some reflecting.



posted on Sep, 27 2017 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: missed_gear

It's irrelevant before it's offensive. I said it was slightly offensive. Dragging the race of Kapernick's adopted parents into the discussion is pretty low blow. It is 100% irrelevant though.



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