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Kneeling during the anthem is honoring what our founding fathers fought for

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posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

I mixed up a post with another X name. I fully take responsibility,

Though you made the same post a few later with your entitled nonsense.




posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:55 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

How is taking a knee, which is known as a universal sign of respect and showing honor, disrespectful to anyone?


Is that their intent here? The original intent was to protest cops killing blacks... You know that situation Trump inherited from Obama with large anti-cop protests...



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:56 AM
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The other reason you should respect the National Anthem and flag is because it clearly sends signals to dangerous radical communist groups and radical socialist.These communist people are still in our world and many would become a dictator if they would get the power.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

People should be protesting criminal justice reform.

We tacitly support a system where 80 percent of officers aren't even physically fit for duty, nevermind marksmanship, and tactical awareness.

They are so poorly paid, over unionized, and under screened it's becoming a serious problem. For them as well and their safety.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:58 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: RomeByFire

What I don't get is how this is even protesting? Taking a knee and disrespecting vets who died to protect your rights is somehow protesting civil rights. This is like getting into an argument with your city council and to teach them a lesson you burn down your house. Shows a huge amount of stupidity in my book.


How is taking a knee, which is known as a universal sign of respect and showing honor, disrespectful to anyone?


Every nation on the planet stands at attention when their anthem is played. Even when I went to a soccer game in London I stood while their anthem was played. Why simple I didn't want to be disrespectful



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: Jobeycool

Oddly enough when people become so patriotic they bece ultra nationalist dictators also form.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: RomeByFire

What I don't get is how this is even protesting? Taking a knee and disrespecting vets who died to protect your rights is somehow protesting civil rights. This is like getting into an argument with your city council and to teach them a lesson you burn down your house. Shows a huge amount of stupidity in my book.


What you suggest is classic false equivalency tactics.

Exercising Constituional rights = disrespecting those who fought and died preserving Constituional rights

Since we're all cool with false equivalently tactics, how come you (and many others) weren't discussing how disrespectful it is for people to wear swastikas and heil Hitler after nearly half a million American lives were lost ending that scourge?

Selective "outrage," at its finest.

Some people just hate the Constitution. It is what it is.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: Jobeycool

Valid points. However what signals were being sent to the same communist you mention when is seemed ok for Russia to interact directly? 1 wonders...



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t



'Those Kids Have Every Right to Protest.' 97-Year-Old WWII Vet Kneels to Support NFL Players
time.com...



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: Jobeycool

Paranoid much? Couldn't you use the similar logic to justify not tolerating Nazi rallies like the one in Charlottesville?



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:07 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: RomeByFire

What I don't get is how this is even protesting? Taking a knee and disrespecting vets who died to protect your rights is somehow protesting civil rights. This is like getting into an argument with your city council and to teach them a lesson you burn down your house. Shows a huge amount of stupidity in my book.


How is taking a knee, which is known as a universal sign of respect and showing honor, disrespectful to anyone?


Every nation on the planet stands at attention when their anthem is played.


Especially in North Korea! Otherwise you find yourself in a work camp.

In the USA our right to politically protest is as American as it gets.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: luthier


Though you made the same post a few later with your entitled nonsense.


All of these players were born with talent that they capitalized on. At their level they are all rock stars of the sports world, been that way for most of their lives. It doesn't matter what their parents make, they all experienced a life within the lime light of exceptional athletes. They also continued that rock star environment though out college and then on to the Pros... This has created a sense of entitlement for most from a very early age due to all their success and center stage lifestyle.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:14 PM
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originally posted by: luthier

People should be protesting criminal justice reform.

We tacitly support a system where 80 percent of officers aren't even physically fit for duty, nevermind marksmanship, and tactical awareness.

They are so poorly paid, over unionized, and under screened it's becoming a serious problem. For them as well and their safety.


Agree 100%, not sure if protesting our flag is the way to do that...



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire

Since we're all cool with false equivalently tactics, how come you (and many others) weren't discussing how disrespectful it is for people to wear swastikas and heil Hitler after nearly half a million American lives were lost ending that scourge?

Selective "outrage," at its finest.

Some people just hate the Constitution. It is what it is.


It is all about the proper venue, I think the Nazis are clowns too, so be it, but it is not like I paid money to go see them perform something totally non-political and then they put out they Nazi flag.... lol



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero


they weren't protesting the flag.. they took a respectful knell during the anthem.

I know... the horror.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:21 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: RomeByFire

What I don't get is how this is even protesting? Taking a knee and disrespecting vets who died to protect your rights is somehow protesting civil rights. This is like getting into an argument with your city council and to teach them a lesson you burn down your house. Shows a huge amount of stupidity in my book.


How is taking a knee, which is known as a universal sign of respect and showing honor, disrespectful to anyone?


Every nation on the planet stands at attention when their anthem is played. Even when I went to a soccer game in London I stood while their anthem was played. Why simple I didn't want to be disrespectful


You're generalizing in a faulty way. You stood? Good for you.

These players are kneeling, which is also respectful.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: RomeByFire

Since we're all cool with false equivalently tactics, how come you (and many others) weren't discussing how disrespectful it is for people to wear swastikas and heil Hitler after nearly half a million American lives were lost ending that scourge?

Selective "outrage," at its finest.

Some people just hate the Constitution. It is what it is.


It is all about the proper venue, I think the Nazis are clowns too, so be it, but it is not like I paid money to go see them perform something totally non-political and then they put out they Nazi flag.... lol


Thanks should be given to Donald Trump for that, no one else.




posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:29 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




These players are kneeling, which is also respectful.

Then why does the pa announcer say "please rise and direct your attention to" ?
If kneeling is so respectful why ask people to stand?
Because it is really not respectful, and no amount of verbal limbo from you will make it so.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:31 PM
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And there is the issue anyone that us proud of being an American is somehow linked to North Korea or nazis. Maybe you should think of the things the US has done in this country and yes even the world to correct wrongs. Yes mistakes wereally made along the way but currently their is no country that has more freedom for its citizens regardless of race creed or color.

Perhaps my view is different because my parent's were immagrants who fought hard to become us citizens. I remember when I was young trying to help my dad learn English I was in the fourth grade at the time. They came here what I was just 6 months old. I became a citizen at the age of 10. I joined the military after college why simple I felt I needed to repay the country that helped me and my parents.

They were incredibly proud I choose to do this but I was raised that way my dad flew a flag in his yard up to the day he died. Why simple he thought this country was important and believed it's worth protecting.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: dragonridr


yes, your views are different, obviously.

those that knelled yesterday, their relatives were most likely slaves...




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