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posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 07:55 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
I think the big issue is that most of us could not get away with making grand political gestures where we work without getting either severely reprimanded or canned, especially if we made our places of work a national circus of controversy like this. Also, the NFL does have rules about conduct during the national anthem that they are conveniently not enforcing.


As they are a private entity they can change, ignore, modify or adopt new rules or regulations anytime they want. Just like your employer can if they are also private.




posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 08:05 AM
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a reply to: EternalSolace

I like America. I like freedom. I like free expression. I even support protest.

But I have no obligation to watch protest.
I have no obligation to listen to protest.

If I go to a strip club, I want to watch naked women get sweaty and dance around a pole to loud music.

I won't go, I'll stop going, if the stripper starts lecturing me on the evils of Trump, or eating meat is murder, or how important global warming is.


It's as simple as that.




posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 08:08 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
I won't go, I'll stop going, if the stripper starts lecturing me on the evils of Trump, or eating meat is murder, or how important global warming is.


I've been lectured by strippers before, it wasn't exactly the worst thing that's ever happened to me. I actually think some of the people in the club were cheering for me. Then Tyrese 'assisted' me to my car.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 08:09 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: EternalSolace

I like America. I like freedom. I like free expression. I even support protest.

But I have no obligation to watch protest.
I have no obligation to listen to protest.

If I go to a strip club, I want to watch naked women get sweaty and dance around a pole to loud music.

I won't go, I'll stop going, if the stripper starts lecturing me on the evils of Trump, or eating meat is murder, or how important global warming is.


It's as simple as that.



Do people over your way really feel that strongly over this in enough numbers to make a difference and force these people into submission then?

Or will they grumble about it but still watch the game anyways?



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I won't go, I'll stop going, if the stripper starts lecturing me on the evils of Trump, or eating meat is murder, or how important global warming is.


I've been lectured by strippers before, it wasn't exactly the worst thing that's ever happened to me. I actually think some of the people in the club were cheering for me. Then Tyrese 'assisted' me to my car.


Tossing a quarter and asking for change back was a new low, even for you.

I sided with Tyrese on that one.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 08:11 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy


Yeah, but I caromed that thing perfectly.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 08:12 AM
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originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: EternalSolace

I like America. I like freedom. I like free expression. I even support protest.

But I have no obligation to watch protest.
I have no obligation to listen to protest.

If I go to a strip club, I want to watch naked women get sweaty and dance around a pole to loud music.

I won't go, I'll stop going, if the stripper starts lecturing me on the evils of Trump, or eating meat is murder, or how important global warming is.


It's as simple as that.



Do people over your way really feel that strongly over this in enough numbers to make a difference and force these people into submission then?

Or will they grumble about it but still watch the game anyways?


I had my tv off, I read, talked on ATS and drove my son to flying lessons.

Will my "defiance" make a difference?

Nope.

But I'm just doing it because I want to.

*shrug*



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 08:14 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: EternalSolace

I like America. I like freedom. I like free expression. I even support protest.

But I have no obligation to watch protest.
I have no obligation to listen to protest.

If I go to a strip club, I want to watch naked women get sweaty and dance around a pole to loud music.

I won't go, I'll stop going, if the stripper starts lecturing me on the evils of Trump, or eating meat is murder, or how important global warming is.


It's as simple as that.



Do people over your way really feel that strongly over this in enough numbers to make a difference and force these people into submission then?

Or will they grumble about it but still watch the game anyways?


I had my tv off, I read, talked on ATS and drove my son to flying lessons.

Will my "defiance" make a difference?

Nope.

But I'm just doing it because I want to.

*shrug*


And will you continue to do so? did you look online for the result or catch up on the news?

Genuine interest here as I really find it hard to get my head round something that to me seems trivial making such an impact on folks?



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 08:17 AM
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originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: EternalSolace

I like America. I like freedom. I like free expression. I even support protest.

But I have no obligation to watch protest.
I have no obligation to listen to protest.

If I go to a strip club, I want to watch naked women get sweaty and dance around a pole to loud music.

I won't go, I'll stop going, if the stripper starts lecturing me on the evils of Trump, or eating meat is murder, or how important global warming is.


It's as simple as that.



Do people over your way really feel that strongly over this in enough numbers to make a difference and force these people into submission then?

Or will they grumble about it but still watch the game anyways?


I had my tv off, I read, talked on ATS and drove my son to flying lessons.

Will my "defiance" make a difference?

Nope.

But I'm just doing it because I want to.

*shrug*


And will you continue to do so? did you look online for the result or catch up on the news?

Genuine interest here as I really find it hard to get my head round something that to me seems trivial making such an impact on folks?


Nope.

Not in the least bit interested.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 08:20 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

That's just it.

When my employer does that, they notify us of the changes. Here there haven't been changes, just inconsistent enforcement and mixed messages.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 08:24 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
When my employer does that, they notify us of the changes. Here there haven't been changes, just inconsistent enforcement and mixed messages.


Which they are allowed to do since they own the league.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 08:28 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: ketsuko
When my employer does that, they notify us of the changes. Here there haven't been changes, just inconsistent enforcement and mixed messages.


Which they are allowed to do since they own the league.


So if you were say a welder or a mechanic could your boss force you to stand and give respect to an inanamate object before you started your shift each day then?

I think if you tried that here in England you would be laughed at and told to sod off.

Do they have the legal right to do this in the states?



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: nonspecific


No, unless this is a religious organization, because religious discrimination is not permitted.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.


An allegiance which dedicates one's devotion to our country, our history, our start.


Stay in your locker room you reject NFL slut!


Kneel you NFL rapist, above the law bastards!


Liberty and justice for all.....just so long as they share your political views though right???
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posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace

Stay in your locker room you reject NFL slut!
Kneel you NFL rapist, above the law bastards!



Lol! Yes, submit! SUBMIIIIIIIIT! SUUUUUUBBBBMIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTT!!!!!!



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 03:40 PM
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a reply to: randomtangentsrme


The Pledge of Allegiance was written in August 1892 by the socialist minister Francis Bellamy (1855-1931). It was originally published in The Youth's Companion on September 8, 1892. Bellamy had hoped that the pledge would be used by citizens in any country.

In its original form it read:

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
In 1923, the words, "the Flag of the United States of America" were added. At this time it read:

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
In 1954, in response to the Communist threat of the times, President Eisenhower encouraged Congress to add the words "under God," creating the 31-word pledge we say today. Bellamy's daughter objected to this alteration. Today it reads:

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."


www.ushistory.org...

Personally, I think the whole idea is unconstitutional.
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posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

Oh this is interesting:

Did you know? I didn't....


What the president failed to acknowledge in his rant was that many of the military displays present at NFL games were, at one time, financed by the government. Rather than organic, wholesome expressions of patriotism — the kind Trump has claimed NFL players are disrespectfully protesting — the tradition of players standing for the national anthem is a recent tradition that may have coincided with a marketing ploy meant to sell cheap, manufactured nationalism.

As recently as 2015, the Department of Defense was doling out millions to the NFL for such things as military flyovers, flag unfurlings, emotional color guard ceremonies, enlistment campaigns, and — interestingly enough — national anthem performances.

Additionally, according to Vice, the NFL’s policy on players standing for the national anthem also changed in 2009, with athletes “encouraged” thereafter to participate. Prior to that, teams were not given any specific instructions on the matter; some chose to remain in the locker room until after opening ceremonies were completed. (It’s unclear whether the policy change was implemented as a direct result of any Defense Department contracts.)


thinkprogress.org...

It's a bloody PR scam. LOL
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posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 05:49 PM
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Posted here....
www.abovetopsecret.com...
and here
www.abovetopsecret.com...



Please add further comments to the ongoing discussions in the above linked threads.
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