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These are the NFL Teams Not Participating In The National Anthem

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posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:40 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ChesterJohn

Various players were kneeling before Donald Trump said anything. Colin Kaper(?) started it last year. Candidate Trump said he should move out of America if he was so unhappy here.



And again, you refuse to even research the topic. Until 2009 the players didn't stand for the anthem. It began when the US government started giving the NFL owners millions of dollars to push the military industrial complex down our throats even more. Just google it for God's sake.




posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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originally posted by: Zarniwoop
a reply to: AboveBoard

I am using my freedom of speech to say that the Broncos suck.


... and kneeling while I do so.


That is totally Anti-American?!!




posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: ColoradoJens

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: ColoradoJens

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: ColoradoJens

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: MysticPearl
a reply to: infolurker

I wonder how all those starving in Africa feel about these millionaire crybabies blabbering on and on about how racist America is.



Millionaire crybabies?



Yup, in other words, crybaby millionaires.


Your focus should be on the crybaby billionaires of Wall St and Big Pharma who "cry" daily to congress in the form of lobbying. But no, focus on the NFL, where the average salary is $1.9 million yearly (including the $25 million paid to typically a QB on each team).


We're in an NFL thread. I'm focusing on the topic at hand.

Point me to the Wall St and Big Pharma thread and I'll be happy to focus on that.


Sure you would.

So upset about crybaby millionaires.



As I said, I'm on topic in this thread. Point me to your thread or another talking about Wall St and Big Pharma. Where is it it?


As am I. Do you know what inequality is?


So you come into a thread on a topic, cry about people talking about the topic, bring up an entirely different topic, then when asked twice to link to threads on that other topic you fail to do so.

All I can take from that is you're posturing and don't care about the other topic. Where's your thread on it? For the third time.


I'll take it from that you don't have any clue what it is or what this thread is actually about. You think it's the players being babies and they make a lot of money. Seriously, you are clueless.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:42 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
Again I pint out.

Remember, Steve clevenger was suspended from his MLB team for saying blm and rioters were a bunch of animals that needed locked up.

Where were all of these people screaming about his rights?

Not a peep. Its only speech they care about that they will defend.

www.seattletimes.com...



I'm sure there's a protest in the works......bbbwwhahahah



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
Again I pint out.

Remember, Steve clevenger was suspended from his MLB team for saying blm and rioters were a bunch of animals that needed locked up.

Where were all of these people screaming about his rights?

Not a peep. Its only speech they care about that they will defend.

www.seattletimes.com...


This is gonna backfire huge. I am a huge football fan my whole life. Have always loved the NFL but I wont be watching another game.

They have made everything in this country about politics I am sick to efffing death of it.


And also what about the high school coach that was fired for praying after games? Where is the uproar about him?



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:45 PM
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originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Grambler
Again I pint out.

Remember, Steve clevenger was suspended from his MLB team for saying blm and rioters were a bunch of animals that needed locked up.

Where were all of these people screaming about his rights?

Not a peep. Its only speech they care about that they will defend.

www.seattletimes.com...


This is gonna backfire huge. I am a huge football fan my whole life. Have always loved the NFL but I wont be watching another game.

They have made everything in this country about politics I am sick to efffing death of it.


And also what about the high school coach that was fired for praying after games? Where is the uproar about him?


Was he working for a public high school?



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:45 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: Grambler
Again I pint out.

Remember, Steve clevenger was suspended from his MLB team for saying blm and rioters were a bunch of animals that needed locked up.

Where were all of these people screaming about his rights?

Not a peep. Its only speech they care about that they will defend.

www.seattletimes.com...



I'm sure there's a protest in the works......bbbwwhahahah


Yep me to.

I am sure everyone at ESPN is just about to go off on what a hero he was for eccercising his free speexh, and using his platform for social awareness.

I am sure that many of the ats posters on here will scream about his constitutional rights being taken away.

I am sure players all around professional sports will protests the mariners dividing them and silencing them.

It's only been a year, so I am sure this will all start any day now.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

He has every right to say it. His employer is also free to divest themselves of the association with someone who demumanizes his targets.

A few employers out here would appreciate a little divestment of the S.O.B spouting President. He too is a liability and an embarrassment.

Peace



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:47 PM
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a reply to: notsure1
Quite different.
The court ruled that since he was acting in his role as a public employee his actions did not constitute free speech.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:47 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

*cricket*
*cricket*
*cricket*



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:47 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: Grambler
Again I pint out.

Remember, Steve clevenger was suspended from his MLB team for saying blm and rioters were a bunch of animals that needed locked up.

Where were all of these people screaming about his rights?

Not a peep. Its only speech they care about that they will defend.

www.seattletimes.com...



I'm sure there's a protest in the works......bbbwwhahahah


Yep me to.

I am sure everyone at ESPN is just about to go off on what a hero he was for eccercising his free speexh, and using his platform for social awareness.

I am sure that many of the ats posters on here will scream about his constitutional rights being taken away.

I am sure players all around professional sports will protests the mariners dividing them and silencing them.

It's only been a year, so I am sure this will all start any day now.



“BLM is pathetic once again. Obama you are pathetic once again! Everyone involved should be locked behind bars like animals.”


Somehow kneeling is akin to spewing vaguely racist comments? Sure, he has a right to say it. But I think I'd rather celebrate those who are for changing inequality rather than inciting racial hatred.


edit on 24-9-2017 by ColoradoJens because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:48 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

I wish it were that easy.

Stage 2 will be some other show on the field to get attention and pretend it's their freedom to do whatever they want.

So I say, let stage 1 continue as long as they are willing to pay the price for their own idiocy; free country and all.

Economics as usual will prevail. When their paychecks take hits, their contracts end and no one wants them and they cry racism.

There's a real lack of conscious awareness of the real end result of this "new game." These guys, and it is just guys (which I find hilarious) obviously never played chess-and couldn't.

Just a look at the leadership of these racial "protests" are a joke compared to historical leaders like King, etc. Maybe they need to be reminded of what real, thoughtful leadership looks like.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:48 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Maybe Trump should tweet something about it.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:49 PM
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originally posted by: DancedWithWolves
a reply to: Grambler

He has every right to say it. His employer is also free to divest themselves of the association with someone who demumanizes his targets.

A few employers out here would appreciate a little divestment of the S.O.B spouting President. He too is a liability and an embarrassment.

Peace


Exactly the point.

The employers decided it would be bad for business.

This isn't about free speech for all of those screaming about trump, it's not about heroically standing up for something.

Its not a first amendment issue.

Its about people that support the protest supporting it, and those against it not liking it.

And it shows that all of those, particularly in the sports media world, that are claiming to just want to protect noble people using their platform to voice their opinions are hypocrites.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:49 PM
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""We unite to oppose those that would deny our most basic freedoms," the Seahawks players said in the statement."

Such as? What freedom do I have that an African American doesn't?
edit on 24-9-2017 by TruMcCarthy because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:50 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

there's a glaring difference between referring to people as animals and saying no words but kneeling.

but the technicalities and strawman are what you make a living off....
calling racial epithets or racially motivated slurs are in fact against code of conduct on most if not all professional teams.

the NFL simply states players 'should' stand for the anthem, injuries or other conditions not withstanding, it's not a 'must'
kneeling nor against the code of conduct or the NFL system of guidelines.


edit on 24-9-2017 by odzeandennz because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: ColoradoJens

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: ColoradoJens

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: ColoradoJens

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: ColoradoJens

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: MysticPearl
a reply to: infolurker

I wonder how all those starving in Africa feel about these millionaire crybabies blabbering on and on about how racist America is.



Millionaire crybabies?



Yup, in other words, crybaby millionaires.


Your focus should be on the crybaby billionaires of Wall St and Big Pharma who "cry" daily to congress in the form of lobbying. But no, focus on the NFL, where the average salary is $1.9 million yearly (including the $25 million paid to typically a QB on each team).


We're in an NFL thread. I'm focusing on the topic at hand.

Point me to the Wall St and Big Pharma thread and I'll be happy to focus on that.


Sure you would.

So upset about crybaby millionaires.



As I said, I'm on topic in this thread. Point me to your thread or another talking about Wall St and Big Pharma. Where is it it?


As am I. Do you know what inequality is?


So you come into a thread on a topic, cry about people talking about the topic, bring up an entirely different topic, then when asked twice to link to threads on that other topic you fail to do so.

All I can take from that is you're posturing and don't care about the other topic. Where's your thread on it? For the third time.


I'll take it from that you don't have any clue what it is or what this thread is actually about. You think it's the players being babies and they make a lot of money. Seriously, you are clueless.


Title of thread: These are the NFL Teams Not Participating In The National Anthem

So I'd say it's about the NFL. You say it's about big Pharma and Wall St.

Doesn't appear that way in reality, does it? Then you project how much more important it is to care about Wall St and big Pharma. I'd imagine since those topics are so important to you that you'd have thread on them. Cool thing is on ATS we have profiles. So I just looked at your profile to find your threads on these important topics. Well what do you know, you have two threads since 2013, one on Trump/immigration, another on the Paris Accord. I look down further, 4+ years ago and see stuff about bowling, laziness, "bad boy bubby", whatever that is.

I guess that's part of the reason you failed to answer three times to the request to provide a link to threads on the topics you care so much about.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:50 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Not different. He prayed silently after games and was fired for it because players chose to pray beside him.

Where is the outrage?



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:50 PM
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Quite frankly who cares about what a bunch of meatheads that play human fetch think



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: ColoradoJens

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: Grambler
Again I pint out.

Remember, Steve clevenger was suspended from his MLB team for saying blm and rioters were a bunch of animals that needed locked up.

Where were all of these people screaming about his rights?

Not a peep. Its only speech they care about that they will defend.

www.seattletimes.com...



I'm sure there's a protest in the works......bbbwwhahahah


Yep me to.

I am sure everyone at ESPN is just about to go off on what a hero he was for eccercising his free speexh, and using his platform for social awareness.

I am sure that many of the ats posters on here will scream about his constitutional rights being taken away.

I am sure players all around professional sports will protests the mariners dividing them and silencing them.

It's only been a year, so I am sure this will all start any day now.



“BLM is pathetic once again. Obama you are pathetic once again! Everyone involved should be locked behind bars like animals.”


Somehow kneeling is akin to spewing vaguely racist comments? Sure, he has a right to say it. But I think I'd rather celebrate those who are for changing inequality rather than inciting racial hatred.



Right so kneeling and saying cops are racist is ok, pointing out that blm people rioting should be locked up isn't.




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