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These are the NFL Teams Not Participating In The National Anthem

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posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 12:44 AM
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They appear to be doing it out of hatred and loathing towards Trump, and not out of protest of the violation of the rights of African Americans by the police.

If you're going to join in a protest like this, they should at least know why they are doing it.

What, are they all "taking the knee" now simply because Trump said that they shouldn't be allowed to do that on the field when the national anthem is playing?

This place where the left meets BLM, I've never liked it.

Trump has never said anything that was racist, and I don't believe that he is racist.

This whole thing is absurd.

Hollywood meets BLM meets the NFL meets Colbert, Clinton, Obama and CNN, all so that a bunch of butt hurt leftists can give Trump the finger, because they hate him, personally.

What a joke!

Edit: If they keep on doing it, then we'll know that the dumbing down process is complete, from the top down and from the bottom up.

You should see how this looks from an outsider's perspective looking in.

It makes the USA look bad, and foolish. Don't they know that?

What is this, high school?

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posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 12:48 AM
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a reply to: Nyiah


I'm just not sure how you managed to equate kneeling to such a personal sleight toward you.


Oh my... not towards me. I'm a nothing here. I'm just observing and stating my opinions.

I grew up appreciating the country I grew up in. That's all.

I guess I'm just old.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 12:56 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
They appear to be doing it out of hatred and loathing towards Trump, and not out of protest of the violation of the rights of African Americans by the police.

If you're doing to join in a protest like this, they should at least know why they are doing it.

What, are they all "taking the knee" now simply because Trump said that they shouldn't be allowed to do that on the field when the national anthem is playing?


they're showing solidarity with their fellow players after the president, in an effort to excite his base, called for them to be fired for exercising their free speech.

it's not complicated.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 01:23 AM
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I really would like to know why you people (conservatives) stand in support of a few white armed men protesting over land but refuse to do so with Native Americans when they were protesting over oil on their land or this cause.

What makes their protest more important than those others? I mean you people have called to arms over a small piece of land when it was white men but refuse to even understand these protests.
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posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 01:26 AM
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a reply to: Black_Foxnow they stay in locker room and come out after anthem is over. i guess stage 3 will be not playing. truthfully anybody else act like this at their job would get fired for causing negative press for employer.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 01:29 AM
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Also when bigots lose their job over something they have said, you cry about SJW, PC people, snowflakes and other things but want these people fired for using their first amendment right.

What is the difference?
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posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 01:42 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Grambler

I don't think the media does ignore black on black killing, actually. Nor do I think the "culture" does.
My opinion, of course.
crim e

A few odd results. Maybe you can clean up the search terms.


Ya actually it does.

And the culture does.

And everyone knows this, especially the media.

It can be seen through the reactions..of all of them.

Kneeling is a sign of religion and slavery...at least some of them are sitting and doing other things.

This is going to require some popcorn for sure.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 01:57 AM
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originally posted by: MysticPearl
a reply to: infolurker

I wonder how all those starving in Africa feel about these millionaire crybabies blabbering on and on about how racist America is.



i just had to quote this because i'm so appalled it got 46 stars. it seems to be directly related to that charming sentiment, be grateful that we enslaved your ancestors because you have it so much better here, so shut up.

gross.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 02:38 AM
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a reply to: fiverx313

I don't think the President ever said anything about their right to speak freely about their political views, only that when on the field during the national anthem that they ought not disrespect the flag and everything it stands for, including their right to free speech.

They aren't allowed to celebrate in certain ways, and there are all kinds of other rules.

Trump might have a valid point, but expressed it poorly.

Now they'll all doing this?

Looks like nothing but a political stunt to me, just to give Trump the finger ie: having nothing whatsoever to do with the violation of African American citizens rights by the police..



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 02:42 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
They appear to be doing it out of hatred and loathing towards Trump, and not out of protest of the violation of the rights of African Americans by the police.

If you're going to join in a protest like this, they should at least know why they are doing it.

What, are they all "taking the knee" now simply because Trump said that they shouldn't be allowed to do that on the field when the national anthem is playing?


You think that is what Trump said?

I would post what Trump said here but it will get flagged for foul language.

Trump made a reference to those exercising their right to protest... as being.. a very insulting term, you should look it up.

Not only that but a day before, he rescinded a white house invitation to an entire team when their star player was thinking over whether or not to accept it and communicated as such.

Did you read all of his tweets that he wrote and did you see what he said in his press conference?

He said some really nasty things to people who are hurting for their fellow citizens in our society that arent being treated with the same human dignity and respect as others.

Players coaches and owners linked arms today and put out statement opposing Trump because of what he said. They were defending those who were being attacked by the president. They were showing a sign of solidarity and supporting one another.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 02:44 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
I don't think the President ever said anything about their right to speak freely about their political views, only that when on the field during the national anthem that they ought not disrespect the flag and everything it stands for, including their right to free speech.


he said they should be fired


Trump might have a valid point, but expressed it poorly.


i continue to be amazed at the amount of slack trump is cut for 'just speaking his mind' or 'not speaking well'. this guy flies off the handle with arrogant nonsense, divisive rhetoric, and lies pretty much every day. i tend to expect more from the god damn president than this load of crap.


Looks like nothing but a political stunt to me, just to give Trump the finger ie: having nothing whatsoever to do with the violation of African American citizens rights by the police..


they're supporting their teammates -- who the president suggested should be fired. this is not complicated.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 03:00 AM
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originally posted by: Onslaught9966
Also when bigots lose their job over something they have said, you cry about SJW, PC people, snowflakes and other things but want these people fired for using their first amendment right.

What is the difference?


Were the bigots working at the time they said the things that got them fired? As a private citizen you have the right to say whatever you want. As an employee there are certain codes of conduct your employer expects you to adhere too.

That would be the difference. And in the NFL you can get punished even for stuff you do while not actually on the clock in a game. "Conduct detrimental to the team".



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 03:01 AM
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For a brief moment I'd forgotten how idiotic Americans are when it comes to patriotism.
Demanding that every time they play a certain tune everyone must stand, shed a tear and thump their chest.

What this actually boils down to is jealousy and denial.

First they deny that there is even a reason to protest and throw away the argument.
This is because deep down they actually fear that they are the ones who are wrong, they are the ones who are being protested against and perhaps they've followed this Trump black hole far enough that they can't turn back.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 03:05 AM
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a reply to: AnkhMorpork

Kneeling isn't disrespecting the flag.

Refusing to lick your ass isn't disrespect either, I'm sure it's a nice ass.

Do you understand the difference?

It was never disrespect in the first place, it's everyone else that is projecting it's disrespectful to attack them first based on that.

If we make this something that is this trivial, actually disrespectful, we'll regret it, I can tell you that much. Bunch of fat consumers yelling at the TV is all this is. "Muh football game better 'murkia respkt dumb naggers".

Being American isn't holding your hand over your heart or singing a song, that's cheapness that makes lesser Americans feel like they belong with such greatness. A professional world class athlete is the last person that needs to sing the American Anthem anyway. And if that's the defining difference between you watching them play football, you're just as pathetic. "I'd watch the greatest athletes in the world compete at my favorite game, but you know them socialist bastards will kneel during the anthem" you seriously sound lame, like Trump and politics is slowly consuming your entire life and every decision you make.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 03:19 AM
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originally posted by: fiverx313

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
They appear to be doing it out of hatred and loathing towards Trump, and not out of protest of the violation of the rights of African Americans by the police.

If you're doing to join in a protest like this, they should at least know why they are doing it.

What, are they all "taking the knee" now simply because Trump said that they shouldn't be allowed to do that on the field when the national anthem is playing?


they're showing solidarity with their fellow players after the president, in an effort to excite his base, called for them to be fired for exercising their free speech.

it's not complicated.


You've incorrectly equated free speech and constitutional rights to kneeling about 14 times so I must correct you. Most simply freedom of speech is a right provided in the constitution. The constitution is a contract between the federal government and its citizenry, save the 14th amendment. Thus the constitutional right to freedom of speech is not practiced nor violated by NFL player employees kneeling or if they were to be in any way reprimanded by their employers.


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posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 03:43 AM
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i make more money then a lot of you on this board , should i now be thankful and not speak up for injustice. talk about deny ignorance you people bathe in it.
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posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 03:49 AM
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America: To celebrate "freedom" everyone MUST stand and be silent for 5 minutes OR ELSE.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 03:56 AM
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originally posted by: StunPrix

originally posted by: fiverx313

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
They appear to be doing it out of hatred and loathing towards Trump, and not out of protest of the violation of the rights of African Americans by the police.

If you're doing to join in a protest like this, they should at least know why they are doing it.

What, are they all "taking the knee" now simply because Trump said that they shouldn't be allowed to do that on the field when the national anthem is playing?


they're showing solidarity with their fellow players after the president, in an effort to excite his base, called for them to be fired for exercising their free speech.

it's not complicated.


You've incorrectly equated free speech and constitutional rights to kneeling about 14 times so I must correct you. Most simply freedom of speech is a right provided in the constitution. The constitution is a contract between the federal government and its citizenry, save the 14th amendment. Thus the constitutional right to freedom of speech is not practiced nor violated by NFL player employees kneeling or if they were to be in any way reprimanded by their employers.



While you're correcting, allow me to correct you. Our rights arise from he simple fact that we are human beings, not from our Constitution. We the People are greater than government, not the other way around.

The US Constitution (and ALL of its Amendments) merely acknowledges our natural human rights and limits any level of government (via the 14th Amendment) from attempting to contravene those rights. The Constitution was an agreement between the several States and continues as such with the subsequent States admitted under its aegis.

Technically, what the players are choosing to do is speech ... a speech act- or an expression of their belief. It is most certainly acknowledged and protected under the First, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, and under the International Declaration of Human Rights.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 04:54 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: StunPrix

originally posted by: fiverx313

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
They appear to be doing it out of hatred and loathing towards Trump, and not out of protest of the violation of the rights of African Americans by the police.

If you're doing to join in a protest like this, they should at least know why they are doing it.

What, are they all "taking the knee" now simply because Trump said that they shouldn't be allowed to do that on the field when the national anthem is playing?


they're showing solidarity with their fellow players after the president, in an effort to excite his base, called for them to be fired for exercising their free speech.

it's not complicated.


You've incorrectly equated free speech and constitutional rights to kneeling about 14 times so I must correct you. Most simply freedom of speech is a right provided in the constitution. The constitution is a contract between the federal government and its citizenry, save the 14th amendment. Thus the constitutional right to freedom of speech is not practiced nor violated by NFL player employees kneeling or if they were to be in any way reprimanded by their employers.



While you're correcting, allow me to correct you. Our rights arise from he simple fact that we are human beings, not from our Constitution. We the People are greater than government, not the other way around.

The US Constitution (and ALL of its Amendments) merely acknowledges our natural human rights and limits any level of government (via the 14th Amendment) from attempting to contravene those rights. The Constitution was an agreement between the several States and continues as such with the subsequent States admitted under its aegis.

Technically, what the players are choosing to do is speech ... a speech act- or an expression of their belief. It is most certainly acknowledged and protected under the First, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, and under the International Declaration of Human Rights.


Allow me to correct your incorrect self proclaimed correction. Our rights arise from the constitution. To test claim an acknowlrdgment of your human rights while being lawfully flogged as a black slave in 1850. As stated the constitution is the agreement of two intermeddling parties. Oft held as a social contract describing its symbiotic agency by its very interpreters. Unless the NFLs monopolistic means we're argued as state action the act of an employee and her private employer is neither acknowledged nor protected under the constitution. Stay in your lane.
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posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 05:11 AM
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originally posted by: DancedWithWolves
Americans have every right to peacefully protest.


Do Americans not also have the right to disagree with the rationale behind a protest, as well as the right to "take their business elsewhere" when a corporation or industry is backing a protest they/we/you/I/anyone disagrees with?

Get over yourself. Freedom cuts both ways. Just because a group is protesting peacefully doesn't mean they have any right to expect universal support of their cause.




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