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originally posted by: odzeandennz
before war can happen, legally, per the un, there must be an act of declaration of war...
a country cannot attack another country because they are developing a missile or nuke system. NK knows this and are not part of the iaea or any nuclear proliferation or treaty with any nation.
the sanctions are not even legitimate.
Trump would have to show or demonstrate what NK has done to America, how many warships do they have on us borders to provoke an attack, have they done any damage on us or allied soil.
so far all NK has done is develop a weapon which the US has the second largest stockpile and is the only government which deemed it necessary after one attack from the Japanese... (why other military actions weren't taken or exhausted...) the Japanese are putting their fears in the wrong basket, and they still owe us ' 2' ( I know a lot feel that way from my stint there)
originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: gortex
I agree South Korea will be the most vulnerable if the U.S. would decide to attack North Korea. That would be Kim's first response. It would take less than a minute to launch a barrage of artillery towards the south. I think that has been the major sticking point with many U.S. presidents. Is Trump going to take responsibility for the death of millions of South Koreans because of a decision to attack North Korea? What does North Korea have to lose by launching their nukes if they come under attack?
It's really a dangerous situation and not as clear-cut as Trump makes it out to be. Unless the U.S. has some secret weapon that can destabilize North Korea's launchers and wipe out all their artillery along the DMZ, South Koreans are sitting ducks.
originally posted by: paraphi
I am pretty confident there will not be a war. China will not allow it. War would result in the end of North Korea and the reunification with the South, something China (and Russia) are keen to avoid. The North may attempt to provoke a response, but they have been doing that for decades.
While Trump is being pilloried for his war of words, he has managed to get China to impose sanctions, something other US leaders have failed to do.
originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: Kandinsky
Maybe in the end for the psychopathic megalomaniac self-preservation and victory aren't as important as the body count and levels of destruction inflicted on his "enemies"?
originally posted by: 727Sky
originally posted by: kelbtalfenek
a reply to: gortex
The only thing I think they got wrong was the body count...I think the first 2 days would be in the millions, not the hundreds of thousands. I also think that Un would go nuclear before his military reserves/logistic train ran out.
I am considering the possibilities that if a war with NK ever starts (for whatever reason) it will be over except for a mop up and humanitarian operation in just about 15 minutes or max of 30 minutes..
I do believe at this time in history, America will unleash the big dogs of war and will instill a real fear into their future opponents that will not soon be forgotten.. No brag .... just listening to the rhetoric from both sides reminds me of two young bucks doing the monkey dance before the fist start to fly.. ... Let us all hope sincerely that my scenario or any real war does not happen..
originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: kelbtalfenek
Theyre not experts. They had jobs but they are ignorant of a lot of stuff we have. Stuff i doubt even obama was let in on. Bush knew about it and so does trump. Were not screwing around when mattis says were confudent we can annihilate north korea before they could even launch a single artillary round. Like i said we have some illuminating stuff. 511 problems but artillary aint one.