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But it really seems to be irking you, so much so that you've turned "Did Islam Come From Babylon?" to "No, Jesus totally won't slaughter loads of people" to now "Nuhuhh, but Muhammad is so much worse!" I don't need to compare to Muhammad to point out that Jesus will bring death, destruction, bloodshed and mourning to every people on earth. It's written right there in the Bible. The fact that in your eyes the people who will be meted out this justice would deserve it is not relevant.
a reply to: Seede Good thread ...one of the better YTubers on Islam is David Wood . He gives sources to how modern day Islam came to be but also has some ancient sources ...go to 5:40 and listen for a short . you will get a laugh I guarantee it Text
Lets see . The Koran says that God gave the Jews the OT and gave the Christians the Gospels . He also says that He gave the Muslims the Koran ...He says that He will keep and preserve His word . question .. Does the Koran say that the OT and or the NT (gospels) is corrupted ? Or is it Muslims saying that they are and that God is or was not able to protect His word ?
The general understanding of the Bible by muslims is that it has been corrupted and is not a reliable source for the Word of God.
a reply to: Seede Your logic does not follow. Because a muslim would believe (due to Islam and the Quran) that Jesus is the Messiah, she would somehow have to accept the New Testament? How do you get that? The general understanding of the Bible by muslims is that it has been corrupted and is not a reliable source for the Word of God.
Translation of Surah Al-Baqarah Verse 75
O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly.
Translation of Surah Al-Baqarah, Verse 79
So woe to their learned people, who write the law with their own hands and then say to the people, "This is from God," so that they might gain some paltry worldly end. (They do not see that) this writing of their hands will bring woe to them and what they gain thereby will lead to their ruin.
Translation of Surah Al-Maida, Verse 13
...they pervert the words from their context and thus distort their meaning, and have forgotten a good portion of the teaching they were imparted, and regarding all except a few of them you continue to learn that they committed acts of treachery. Pardon them, then, and overlook their deeds. Surely God loves those who do good deeds.
Translation of Surah Al-Inam, Verse 91
And they do not assign to God the attributes due to Him when they say: God has not revealed anything to a mortal. Say: Who revealed the Book which Moses brought, a light and a guidance to men, which you make into scattered writings which you show while you conceal much?
Is this really the path you want this thread to be taking?
originally posted by: the2ofusr1
I have a Koran and would like the verse that is in the Koran please . I have been told that the Koran is easy to understand so where in the Koran does it say what you said it says . Not a hadith but the words from your Alla ...tks
originally posted by: the2ofusr1
babloyl was in Sahabi's thread on the Quran . I am trying to get him to show me where in the Quran it says what he claimed it said but its like pulling teeth trying to discuss things with Muslims sometimes .
Were those translations you gave me ? I wanted the verse numbers in the Quran . ie 86:7 Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs quran.com... Like the chapter and verse number .
Are you even reading my posts? Pulling teeth? It's like you're applying stalling tactics when you don't have anything to say. My last post already answered your question.