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Time for American isolationism and new goals

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posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:19 PM
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As the world falls apart before my eyes, I ponder a more encouraging future.
America is broke.
I say that because we are spending 40% more than we take in and have $20 trillion in debt.
We can't afford to stick to the business as usual attitude so I propose the following.

First, bring all our troops home.
Close every base in foreign lands.
Let's see what the rest of the world can do without US intervention or even our presence.
No more policing the world.

Then cut military spending down to defence only. We do not need ten aircraft carriers to defend the country.
No more need to be all over the world.

Next close the borders to all but tourists.
Americans get priority for jobs.

Now we tackle imports.
Equal trade not free trade. No more trade deficits. If you sell us a billion in products you must buy a billion from us.
At least close to equal.

Universal healthcare, it's coming, just accept it and do the best job possible to make it work well.

Lastly, invest in green energy and its research.
That doesn't mean build solar panels everywhere, they are not efficient.
Sorry but that will require some new nuke plants until we figure out a better way.

These are just a few areas that need changed and obviously the details will need ironed out.
There will be many growing pains, but I think it will be better than the inevitable crash in the not so distant future.
Better we start before its to late.




posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:20 PM
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Now I STILL want a left ,
We cannot destroy resistance when we partially OPERATE from such.
I want advanced energy.
HOW many folks do you intend to kill to get it out of AREA 51?
THEN we can lead the planet ...however ALL the cats will be out of the bag for the world to see.
AND EVERY banking institution will be against giving any cash at all to such tech,I 'd be surprised if you'd live a week ,when you knew.
The "MAN" is above government via CASH.
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posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22
Thats insane, if we do that our rivals win. We are already drawing down one of our expansion phases, that should help. I think the majority of bases we should pull be from Europe except Germany and the UK as they are ll developed financially and industrially they can handle their own defense.

Most of the alleged bases in Africa are just offices that host a dozen or so advisors and servicemen that assist with training domestic forces in various things. Those shouldn't be too expensive, and we only have one actual full fledged military base in Africa on Djibouti.

I don't know the fulll extent of our Asian/Pacific presence other than Philippines, Guam, SouthKo, Japan and we trin with Thailand too. Those seem essential if we pull out, I think China will just steamroll all the islands out there.

We should stop with the military aid for starters though for sure. Colombia, Israel, and Egypt can handle their own affairs. The other ones receiving smaller packages should be reviewed for necessity, im thinking much of it is unnecessary though.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

I also think we'd pull out after Korea united, rather fast.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:27 PM
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I think this is how North Korea started.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

We are either the world police or we are not.
Besides, all I ever hear is that these other countries just want peace.
Here is their chance to prove it.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:31 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7
I think a slow drawdown would make better sense. We do not yet know how China would take advantage of the situation from a United Korea. I have the gut feeling that China would never allow a fully united Korea though. Like Russia with Donbass, or the Turks and the Kurds, the Chinese will deploy troops to a sliver of land in the name of "preserving the sovereignty of the North Korean Republic" or some nonsense like that and there will remain that chunk of land that is a buffer between the Free Korea, and China as part of what is left of NorthKo.

The battles always happen at the border, which is why large nations enjoy having buffer states Te fighting is contained in those lands and would not reach their own border.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:32 PM
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Ironically the world would be a lot more peaceful if the U.S. did become isolationist. Economically it would be better too.

I don't think you realise how much the U.S. bullies the rest of the world, including it allies and friends.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

you realize that China will project their force the same way after a couple of years of US not being involved.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Really? Who would make our stuff? Where would we get the labor to make it?

Lol.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: worldstarcountry

We are either the world police or we are not.
Besides, all I ever hear is that these other countries just want peace.
Here is their chance to prove it.


We are the worlds police. The military industrial complex is in full control and that fraud Trump or any other political entity will bend over and take it. They have the guns, the economic power with their banking compradres and will of most American people.

We are in the war business. Making America Great Again...believe me!!



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Bluntone22

Really? Who would make our stuff? Where would we get the labor to make it?

Lol.


I guess we just won't have as much stuff.
I hear we are exploiting cheap foreign child labor anyway.
Should we stop or continue abusing children?



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Do you really think it's that simple?

Let me guess you don't know what the cpi is and how it's used to control inflation?

Can you explain how you would control inflation and not cause the starvation of about 50 percent of the US population?

No?

Neither can anyone else.
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posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: luthier

Who said simple?
I said we need to iron out the details.
I said many growing pains.
You can't flip a switch and just change everything overnight.

This process would take several decades to fully implement.

The crash is coming if we continue on our current path.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

They aren't in any position to project their will without engaging in war at all,if shooting starts and they interfere like that,it will be a VERY different attack then.
They will be engaged as they were last time without delay this time.
Once they cross the Yalu they live.
A corridor of DEATH would resemble the highway,we aren't into fighting again.
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posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

What?

I think your just ignorant of the subject of economics.

Not being rude I mean it literally.

What your suggesting is the use of force against Americans to control how they conduct business.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: luthier

You are entitled to your opinion.
But I have ran a couple businesses over the years.
One was a manufacturer of auto parts, foreign and domestic.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

So? I ran a remodel company and now own a guitar business.

Unrelated to global economics and policy.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Just answer this as a test of yur understanding.

What would a market based plan be of controlling consumer prices and wage growth?

How do you control cost, provide a liveable competitive wage so people aren't dependant on the government, and keep prices low...


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posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: luthier

So what makes you an expert in global economics then?
Do you limit your opinion to guitar threads?

Good god man, I never claimed to be an expert in global economics.
I'm only starting a discussion to help America avoid a collapse from all the debt we are incurring.

Please add your opinion on how that can be avoided.
You don't like my idea, ok great.
Have an idea?



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