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Trump-BOYCOTT NFL teams whose players refuse to stand for the National Anthem

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posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 02:17 PM
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originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: Throes

Budweiser is a big NASCAR sponsor too and I can tell you from when I lived in NC they love their Bud down there. Personally I can't stand the stuff.

Wrong demographic you wanna be appearing unpatriotic to.


The same Budweiser who uses American flags to advertise their beer cans (which is a direct violation of the flag code, by the way)?

Funny. I don't see any threads regarding how absolutely disgraceful Budweiser is for not respecting the flag code.




posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 02:19 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: amazing




Fake Outrage. This is America, we were founded on protest and revolution and pissing people off! That's what we do!


FYI that is certainly what boycotting is.

A form of protest.

DEAL.



FYI that is certainly what protesting is.

A Constituionally protected right.

Deal.



posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 04:47 PM
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The beginning of the end for revenue of the NFL. Free Speech and Free market reaction. Gotta love the Karma.

NFL ticket sales plummet 17.9%

The next shoe to drop is the advertisers pulling ads from games broadcasts.

CEO Declares He Is Pulling All Ads From NFL Games

Bet this kneeling and locking arms thing flames out before the end of the season.
edit on 29-9-2017 by thepixelpusher because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 10:51 PM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher

No way. All the talking heads said only 5% of the NFL fans give a hoot. Gosh was media lying to us?

Yes they were/are/and will be.



posted on Sep, 29 2017 @ 11:33 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

If we go by the source they used it does state

Last year the drop was 10.8 percent in orders on Monday & Tuesday following Week Three games.

That would be a 7.1% difference between the 17.9% this year and the 10.8% drop the same time last year.

Lets see if there is more information from another source...

For pro football games in September, ticket sales at TicketCity are down 16 percent from a year ago.

So professional football as a whole is down.

TickPick's NFL sales rose this month, but by the smallest margin since 2015.

But the NFL is up but not by as much as last year.

The vendors' data reflect tickets sold in the secondary market, as opposed to direct sales from NFL teams.


So what can we extrapolate from this? Did the anthem issue have an immediate impact? Sure, I think it's safe to say that some people who may have purchased a ticket chose not to because of their feelings regarding the anthem issue. Is that the only factor that is and has been driving fans away? Very doubtful.


According to Mike Guiffre, TicketCity's vice president of sales, NFL ticket demand has also been hurt by lackluster games and the league's ineffective marketing.


"They have not effectively branded, priced, marketed or sold tickets in a modern enough fashion and have counted on season ticket sales and corporate seats for far too long," he said in an email. "It drove the fans away slowly."

Any other factors we should look at? Perhaps.

Attending NFL games isn't cheap. According to Vivid Seats, tickets cost an average of $172 this season, an increase of 6 percent compared with last year. Fans face wait times that can stretch into the decades for the right to buy season tickets for some teams.


A 6% increase seems like it would have a pretty significant impact on pricing many people right out of the market.

SOURCE

Point is that this isn't as easy as pointing to a number and declaring victory for ones side of this issue.



posted on Sep, 30 2017 @ 08:54 AM
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a reply to: FraggleRock

I think not having monday night football pissed alot of fans off. Nothing says "screw you fan" like making them pay for something that was free last season.



posted on Oct, 1 2017 @ 07:47 PM
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I just watched the start of the SEAHAWKS vs COLTS game on T.V.. NBC did something it rarely does outside of football playoffs. The network showed THE NATIONAL ANTHEM. I'm pretty sure that NBC didn't show the Anthem out of love of country. In fact, it didn't show the U.S. flag much at all. Instead, the cameras were focused on the players, coaches and the audience.

It looked like only 4 or 5 Seahawk players were sitting. Everyone else on both teams were honoring America properly.



posted on Oct, 1 2017 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: carewemust


It looked like only 4 or 5 Seahawk players were sitting.

Which has been the case since last year.
Until Trump opened his face.



posted on Oct, 1 2017 @ 07:56 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust


It looked like only 4 or 5 Seahawk players were sitting.

Which has been the case since last year.
Until Trump opened his face.



Most players apparently listened to President Trump, read the NFL guidelines, realized their stupidity, and grew-up. All in one week! All except for 4 players, that is.



posted on Oct, 1 2017 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Did you see the San Francisco game? I guess not.



posted on Oct, 1 2017 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

Did you see the San Francisco game? I guess not.




Yuck.



posted on Oct, 1 2017 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: Throes

You didn't like the game?
Granted, they aren't what they used to be, but it wasn't that bad.

>carewemust; what do you think about the game?


edit on 10/1/2017 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 1 2017 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Throes

You didn't like the game?
Granted, they aren't what they used to be, but it wasn't that bad.


Feel sorry for all California NFL fans.



posted on Oct, 1 2017 @ 08:08 PM
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a reply to: Throes

3 points.
3 rotten points.



posted on Oct, 1 2017 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: amazing




Fake Outrage. This is America, we were founded on protest and revolution and pissing people off! That's what we do!


FYI that is certainly what boycotting is.

A form of protest.

DEAL.



FYI that is certainly what protesting is.

A Constituionally protected right.

Deal.


Point of Order:

The first amendment guarantees that the government will not pass laws to abridge peaceful free speech & protest.

The first amendment *does not guarantee* that the private sector will not abridge peaceful free speech/protest of its employees, nor does it guarantee that citizens are free from consequences of what they say or do... so long as the consequences & repurcussions are likewise legal and peaceful.



posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 12:30 PM
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Shock poll: NFL now least liked sport, core fans down 31%

The consumer speaks.



Worse for football, which was already seeing lower TV ratings and empty stadium seats, the month of protests and complaints about them from President Trump drove core fans, men 34-54, away, the most significant indicator that NFL brass aren't in touch with their base.

The Winston Poll from the Washington-based Winston Group found that the attitude of those fans went from an August rating of 73 percent favorable and 19 percent unfavorable to 42 percent favorable and 47 percent unfavorable, a remarkable turn against the sport.


How long before other businesses come to realize that halving your potential market is not such a good business idea?



posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: loam
Shock poll: NFL now least liked sport, core fans down 31%

The consumer speaks.



Worse for football, which was already seeing lower TV ratings and empty stadium seats, the month of protests and complaints about them from President Trump drove core fans, men 34-54, away, the most significant indicator that NFL brass aren't in touch with their base.

The Winston Poll from the Washington-based Winston Group found that the attitude of those fans went from an August rating of 73 percent favorable and 19 percent unfavorable to 42 percent favorable and 47 percent unfavorable, a remarkable turn against the sport.


How long before other businesses come to realize that halving your potential market is not such a good business idea?




Thursday night’s Patriots-Buccaneers game generated a strong rating for CBS and NFL Network.



The game had a combined 11.1 overnight rating, up 26 percent from the Thursday night game in Week Five of last season, which also aired on both CBS and NFL Network.

Apples-to-apples year-to-year comparisons of Thursday Night Football ratings are a little difficult because the league makes changes about which games air exclusively on NFL Network and which games are also on a broadcast network, either CBS or NBC. But generally speaking, Thursday night ratings this year are up, when comparing NFL Network-only games this year to NFL Network-only games last year, and when comparing broadcast network games this year to broadcast network games last year.



profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...


Or not.



posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: luthier

M'kay.

Let's see where the NFL really is after the dust settles.

Doubt it will be better off.



posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 12:42 PM
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I sell NFL commercials.


Who the hell told you people aren't watching football?

Oh ya, MSM.



posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: loam

I doubt anyone cares as much as the loudest people seem to think.




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