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Trump-BOYCOTT NFL teams whose players refuse to stand for the National Anthem

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posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: luthier

The job is SOUL sucking DRUDGE .
I watched a hardened tanker get broken down by the PENAL system in Texas, as a guard.
This is the guy who tried to work too soon after service and dragged a guy through a fast food window,NOT as patent as I .
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posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: luthier

I don't think its hard to fix, it's training and OVERSEEN screening.
LOTS of commanders have fixed bad units.



posted on Sep, 25 2017 @ 11:26 PM
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a reply to: RomeByFire

Trump made a stage ? Really? I thought they were protesting police brutality in the inner cities??? Did you lose sight of the ball ?



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:17 AM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: amazing

I have been told on ATS by a great number of members that while at work you have no freedom of speech.

I guess it is up the brass at the NFL. Once they loose billions they may have to put the hammer down on these millionaires.


The government is actually obligated to protect our First Amendment rights, unlike private employers. Being that Trump is at the highest level of government, I think his boycott suggestion crosses a line and could have a 'chilling effect.'

There is definitely an argument here that Trump's suggestion infringes on the players' Constitutional protections.


So are you suggesting that everyone has the right to take a knee all day at work in protest? Imagine that.


i wouldnt even give those comments the time of day personally. they are based on some form of moronic logic that would bring the entire world to a grinding halt if they were able to impose it on the world. im a pretty big history buff and its scary to see the transition from a populace who all knew that 2+2=4 to a populace that thinks 2+2=any and all integers to infinity.
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posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:24 AM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: luthier

I don't think its hard to fix, it's training and OVERSEEN screening.
LOTS of commanders have fixed bad units.


im curious what do u think about the military actually being in charge of some of the policing. to go in and clear out precincts that are known to be maybe not so clean. one of the issues ive always felt is a problem is that the senior people are so entrenched that even if u fired and hired a completely new force youd end up back in the same place. i know many people would freak out thinking about a military presence in a policing role but id be ok with it as a short term deal if it actually were able to restructure and fix some of the problems. im not military though so id love to hear your insight into something like that
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posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:29 AM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: RomeByFire

Trump made a stage ? Really? I thought they were protesting police brutality in the inner cities??? Did you lose sight of the ball ?


Is there a recognized spokesperson for the "Take a Knee" protest movement? I'd be interested in know the list of grievances. I've heard everything today, ranging from Trump to exclusion from Hollywood.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 06:58 AM
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originally posted by: seasonal
Fans are not happy with the way players are treating the flag-anthem. But more are wondering why the NFL hasn't "encouraged" the players to stand and act like a "Proud" American.


Love him or hate him, Trump does not play wishy washy games. He plants his flag, and he lets the cards fall where they may.


President Donald Trump has ratcheted up the national controversy over black National Football League players who refuse to stand while the U.S. National Anthem is played before games.

During a Friday night political rally in Alabama, Trump called on fans to boycott teams that allow players to engage in that particular form of protest.
www.dailymail.co.uk...

Trump thinks the NFL would score a win with the fans if he told the players to leave the field. Freedom of speech does not apply while at work. or so I've been told.


Trump said Friday that NFL owners would be instantly popular if they pulled protesting players off the field, and that fans should vote with their feet.


Freedom of speech applies anywhere and everywhere. Don't be disingenuous. It does not protect you from your employer firing you. However, if your employer supports your choices.. it's not going to negatively impact your employment status.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: DoubleDNH

originally posted by: seasonal
Fans are not happy with the way players are treating the flag-anthem. But more are wondering why the NFL hasn't "encouraged" the players to stand and act like a "Proud" American.


Love him or hate him, Trump does not play wishy washy games. He plants his flag, and he lets the cards fall where they may.


President Donald Trump has ratcheted up the national controversy over black National Football League players who refuse to stand while the U.S. National Anthem is played before games.

During a Friday night political rally in Alabama, Trump called on fans to boycott teams that allow players to engage in that particular form of protest.
www.dailymail.co.uk...

Trump thinks the NFL would score a win with the fans if he told the players to leave the field. Freedom of speech does not apply while at work. or so I've been told.


Trump said Friday that NFL owners would be instantly popular if they pulled protesting players off the field, and that fans should vote with their feet.


Freedom of speech applies anywhere and everywhere. Don't be disingenuous. It does not protect you from your employer firing you. However, if your employer supports your choices.. it's not going to negatively impact your employment status.



Unless the customer says otherwise.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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Correct, the kneeling will stop when the add revenues fluctuate slightly. Then the owners who have busted the players asses for years about labor ($) many times will put a quick and effortless stop to the kneeling.

The owners and players are not friends.
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posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: RomeByFire

Trump made a stage ? Really? I thought they were protesting police brutality in the inner cities??? Did you lose sight of the ball ?


Is there a recognized spokesperson for the "Take a Knee" protest movement? I'd be interested in know the list of grievances. I've heard everything today, ranging from Trump to exclusion from Hollywood.
Kaepernik actually started this deal in the last season apparently and Trump had nothing to do with it. These guys are just taking it farther than him. People are already tired of it though. Heard on radio this morning a caller in said someone he knew cancelled his cable subscription to NFL. When it starts to hurt cable what do you think is going to happen?



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 10:03 AM
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NASCAR on Monday released a statement calling respect for the national anthem a "hallmark" of its events while adding that people have a right to express themselves.
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Former NASCAR champion Richard Petty told the AP that any member of his team would be fired if they chose to protest the national anthem.

thehill.com...


Kinda doubt there will be many knees at a race in order to test people's reactions.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: RomeByFire

Trump made a stage ? Really? I thought they were protesting police brutality in the inner cities??? Did you lose sight of the ball ?


Is there a recognized spokesperson for the "Take a Knee" protest movement? I'd be interested in know the list of grievances. I've heard everything today, ranging from Trump to exclusion from Hollywood.
in the interest of understanding what they are doing... here's an article regarding Kaeperniks original protest
independent.co.uk/news
According to this article Kaepernick decided to
Make it a show of respect for veterans. In my opinion his view is obscured by his own inability to be clear about it. I'm sure Soros would approve anything which stirs up controversy and shows disrespect for our nation and what we stand for.
According to that article Kaepwrnick did not want to show residency for the country that disrespects black people. This started well
Before Trump got in office. It's very clearly a disrespect of our flag and our nation. The average Smwrican does not appreciate it much.
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posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 11:55 AM
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It's disrespect and hatred of the country cloaked in freedom of speech.


That is where you are wrong.

That is what they want you to believe to perpetuate the narrative of divisiveness.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: mkultra11


It's disrespect and hatred of the country cloaked in freedom of speech.


That is where you are wrong.

That is what they want you to believe to perpetuate the narrative of divisiveness.
Who is "they"? I did a search and found that Kaepernick engaged to a radio show personality who is a BLM activist and interestingly Islamic . A weird coincidence?



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: TheScale

I think the military is for killing alone,lets fight all wars in other countries.
I don't need a war zone here,just a group of people who want the best for all and not themselves,and the passion to hold the course and finish things all the way through,quite rare.
When Chicago it finally taken down ,military tactics will be required but NOT executed by soldiers,DIFFERENT reflexes completely.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus



I did a search and found that Kaepernick engaged to a radio show personality who is a BLM activist and interestingly Islamic


So what?


Who is "they"?


Exactly. You know, they, them...





posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus



I did a search and found that Kaepernick engaged to a radio show personality who is a BLM activist and interestingly Islamic


So what?


Who is "they"?


Exactly. You know, they, them...


BLM activism....which is funded by George Soros sorry to say. I guess you do t see the connecting thread but that's fine.
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posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 03:15 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus



I did a search and found that Kaepernick engaged to a radio show personality who is a BLM activist and interestingly Islamic


So what?


Who is "they"?


Exactly. You know, they, them...


. Oh guess what.... the leader of BLM threatened a boycott of the NFL if they don't sign his "brother" Kaepernick
The irony of it all. www.google.com...



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Thank you for that response. I just heard the latest poll that 72% of Americans feel that Donald Trump is right and the NFL is wrong.



posted on Sep, 26 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Thank you for that response. I just heard the latest poll that 72% of Americans feel that Donald Trump is right and the NFL is wrong.
Sounds to me like the NFL got caught in the middle. First they get raked over the coals by BLM for not signing the guy and threatened with a boycott then when they allow these other players to protest they get POTUS making suggestions of boycott. But this time the players are protesting Trump... well
Because Trump. Maybe we should just look at inner city crime and conditions and stop making it about bad cops or institutional racism. Socialist programs have clearly not worked. So what's the answer? Maybe there are deeper issues here that have been overlooked. Soros is such a tool in that he wants to bring a prosperous America to its knees and usher in a new era of socialism. I continually bring it up because he sponsors many many radical groups and has injected a great deal of poison into social media and other organizational theater. He is the ultimate in Leftist NGO's. And the goal is World socialism/Totalitarian one world government/forced sustainable development.



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