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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Gryphon66
I think it would be unwise to follow Trumps advice ,the people vote with cash, that EX-RANGER's uniform is the HOTTEST selling football jersey in the country..and no one gets it...he's HISPANIC not WHITE as well(As if we GIVE a s#it)...
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: pavil
They can be fired, have I ever stated differently?
Do you know the terms of every player's contract? Or not?
What happens to the value of the contract when someone is fired without legitimate cause?
Trump’s comments raise an intriguing legal question: could NFL owners heed the President’s advice and fire players for kneeling during the anthem?
The answer is probably yes, though it is by no means a sure thing.
As a starting point, it’s worth highlighting the limits of constitutional rights in the context of NFL players. While a player has the same First Amendment right to free speech and expression as other Americans, that right only protects him from sanction by the government—it does not insulate him from sanction by his team or the league.
The standard NFL player contract—which every player signs—offers considerable discretion to teams in the decision to terminate a player’s employment.
Take Paragraph 2 for “employment and services.” In it, the player pledges to “conduct himself on and off the field with appropriate recognition of the fact that the success of professional football depends largely on public respect for and approval of those associated with the game.” This fairly vague language might allow a team to reason that if a player engages in protest that diminishes “public respect” for “those associated with the game” then the player is in breach. How “public respect” is impacted by player protests is not clear and probably varies by whom you ask. As MMQB’s Tim Rohan recently found, some fans deeply admire the protests while others detest them.
If a player is “fired” for protesting, note that he may still be owed money from his team. Often when an employee is fired, he or she has an “at will” relationship with their employer, meaning the employee or the employer can end the relationship with relative ease. An NFL player is in a different position. He has an employment contract. If he or his team ends the employment relationship before the contract expires, then the contract has been breached. The contract stipulates whether the player is still owed money. Although NFL contracts generally do not “guarantee” money, some players sign contracts with guarantees that require future payments. A “fired” player would still receive those payments.
originally posted by: UKTruth
Villanueva’s Jersey Sales Skyrocket After Anthem Stand
www.breitbart.com...
Rotheburger has also had a change of heart - tweeting that players should stand and show unity for the country.
originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: amazing
Freedom of speech, in your mind, stops at the Presidency then!? Plenty of people agree with Trump.You realize Trump won the Presidency, right?
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
originally posted by: pavil
The NFL picks and chooses what it wants to enforce of it's rules. That's been shown numerous times.
Nobody has asked the obvious question...What would Jesus do?
Actually, I can answer that...
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: UKTruth
How is Kaps Jersey doing a couple years of not playing?
Don't get too excited.
originally posted by: pavil
originally posted by: Onslaught9966
originally posted by: pavil
Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.
Again it says SHOULD (an option) stand and they were on the field.
Multiple teams were in the locker room for the anthem. Steelers, Seahawks and one other.
originally posted by: canuckster
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West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), is a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States holding that the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution protected students from being forced to salute the American flag and say the Pledge of Allegiance in school. The Court's 6–3 decision, delivered by Justice Robert H. Jackson, is remembered for its forceful defense of free speech and constitutional rights generally as being placed "beyond the reach of majorities and officials."
It was a significant court victory won by Jehovah's Witnesses, whose religion forbade them from saluting or pledging to symbols, including symbols of political institutions. However, the Court did not address the effect the compelled salutation and recital ruling had upon their particular religious beliefs but instead ruled that the state did not have the power to compel speech in that manner for anyone.
Barnette overruled a 1940 decision on the same issue, Minersville School District v. Gobitis (also involving the children of Jehovah's Witnesses), in which the Court stated that the proper recourse for dissent was to try to change the school policy democratically.
originally posted by: pavil
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
originally posted by: pavil
The NFL picks and chooses what it wants to enforce of it's rules. That's been shown numerous times.
Nobody has asked the obvious question...What would Jesus do?
Actually, I can answer that...
He's not watching CFL?