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Trump-BOYCOTT NFL teams whose players refuse to stand for the National Anthem

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posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 02:32 AM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
Some of the responses from those in the NFL to Trumps comments:

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell calls Trump's comments "divisive"
www.cbsnews.com...

Oh.

Green Bay Packers CEO: Trump's remarks on NFL 'divisive'
thehill.com...

Same thing?

Eagles’ Jeffrey Lurie releases statement in response to Donald Trump comments


The Eagles have several players who demonstrate during the national anthem, including starting safety and team captain Malcolm Jenkins.

Lurie has shown support for Jenkins and his cause. I think it’s safe to say the Eagles owner won’t be firing him any time soon.

hmmm
www.bleedinggreennation.com...

uhuh.

Giants owners John Mara and Steve Tisch:

"Comments like we heard last night from the president are inappropriate, offensive and divisive. We are proud of our players..."

touchdownwire.usatoday.com...

And the list goes on.

I agree with Trump supporters and apologists here on one thing. Freedom of speech does not give you free reign in private business. We've seen this with facebook posts, twitter comments, that have gotten people fire over the years. This is true. However it certainly looks like those in the NFL are standing firm with these players kneeling in protest. They're not going away anything soom.. in fact if anything Trump just motivated more to start kneeling.


Who cares if some high-level execs made a decision to back this horse along with the moron players?

Have you gone to Packers.Com since that statement was made?

Mark Murphy just alienated the greatest fan base known to sports.

The website was crashed for over an hour and the commenter are lighting up the statement.

This is going to get really ugly fast.

I won't be watching anymore Packers football until that idiot is fired!




posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 02:39 AM
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Perhaps i was raised differently. If i was an NFL coach or owner, i would have chewed my player's a** if I found out he did not stand for the national anthem. Im taken aback that the NFL would even begin to moan about what Trump said regarding these players. What a bunch of ungrateful bratty whiners! Like him or not, Trump is president so get on your big boy underwear or big girl panties and show respect for our country. If you don't you should be escorted out of the country. Maybe THEN you'd appreciate it. Whats wrong with people? Is it as simple as their hate for Trump is greater than their love for country? Divided we fall United we stand so get over yourselves people.
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posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 03:11 AM
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originally posted by: Aboom
Perhaps i was raised differently. If i was an NFL coach or owner, i would have chewed my player's a** if I found out he did not stand for the national anthem. Im taken aback that the NFL would even begin to moan about what Trump said regarding these players. What a bunch of ungrateful bratty whiners! Like him or not, Trump is president so get on your big boy underwear or big girl panties and show respect for our country. If you don't you should be escorted out of the country. Maybe THEN you'd appreciate it. Whats wrong with people? Is it as simple as their hate for Trump is greater than their love for country? Divided we fall United we stand so get over yourselves people.


Ya, you were raised differently. Apparently seeing people use their rights as afforded to them by the Bill of Rights is a bit much for you and a lot of people. How they protest while on the job is 100% between them and their bosses, not you.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 03:24 AM
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originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: amazing

I have been told on ATS by a great number of members that while at work you have no freedom of speech.

I guess it is up the brass at the NFL. Once they loose billions they may have to put the hammer down on these millionaires.


That's different. That's business. But the President trying to tell a corporation what to do because he doesn't agree with workers there protesting the government is a little shady.


so lemme get this straight, its ok for the players to protest whenever and wherever they want cause thats a right according to you, but when the president makes his opinion known about the matter (his form of protest) then hes a dictator? its not like hes passing laws on this. he just urged is base to boycott such behavior. man the hypocrisy these days is unreal. the fact u think kneeling is about protesting against the govt is quite hilarious btw
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posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 03:26 AM
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originally posted by: Onslaught9966

originally posted by: SprocketUK
A lot of people are fed up with multimillionaires who live pampered, sheltered lives whining and kneeling during the national anthem. Trump is just vocalising their annoyance.

Hell, any of these overpaid social justice warriors would drive their Humvees over your babies to get to the front of the queue for a burger or something. They have no empathy nor time for actual poor people who might actually be beat down by modern society.


Yet you and burdman, have no issue with a Billionaire who lives a pampered and sheltered life sharing his opinion on matters he knows nothing about.

Nor do any of you seem to understand that there is injustice going on in America when it comes police getting away with murder when it comes to shooting people. The only time a cop has any chance of being convicted for a shooting. is fi the victim is white. That is injustice.



Name one poor person that has ever been president... Trump has is faults, saying what lots of people are thinking isn't one of them. He is kinda paid to speak out though, isn't he? As for the high number of black People getting shot, I'd suggest it is partly due to the high number of police fatalities every year. I think there were only 2 years where the number was lower than military deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan.
That probably has more to do with it than cops trying to be racist.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 05:21 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

a reply to: Kandinsky

We are all going to have to face the fact, sooner than later, that Mr. Trump is non compos mentis.

Rather than making me happy, this makes me sad. As we can see, it's going to tear us apart even further.

... but it's coming.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 05:32 AM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
so no freedom of speech / expression does not apply at work just... ?there must be an asterisk pointing to a footnote saying that in the constitution... just fire the ones you don't agree with, even though no laws or team ethics are being violated?

from the commander in chief...

and Kim Jung Un is the mental one...


so as an employer you think i should paying you (apparently at least $15 an hr) and let you do whatever you want (public university employees excluded)?. Sorry, *I'm* paying you to do what *I* want. But don't believe me, test your theory in the real world and let me know how that goes



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 05:55 AM
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originally posted by: acackoh

originally posted by: odzeandennz
so no freedom of speech / expression does not apply at work just... ?there must be an asterisk pointing to a footnote saying that in the constitution... just fire the ones you don't agree with, even though no laws or team ethics are being violated?

from the commander in chief...

and Kim Jung Un is the mental one...


so as an employer you think i should paying you (apparently at least $15 an hr) and let you do whatever you want (public university employees excluded)?. Sorry, *I'm* paying you to do what *I* want. But don't believe me, test your theory in the real world and let me know how that goes


You guys just can't get enough of this sh!tcan argument, can you?

First of all, as someone who actually pays employees and manages companies, if you actually had the opportunity to put your own screwed up theories into action, your employees would be unmotivated and disloyal ... and would move on from your company as soon as they could. One of your biggest investments is your people, and if you or anyone else is ignorant enough to throw away employees because they knelt rather than stood during the Anthem, you deserve what you get.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 06:12 AM
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a reply to: Tempter



Mark Murphy just alienated the greatest fan base known to sports.


I had a look at the 2200 comments and the most popular post (140 likes) chimes with yours here. The 2nd most popular post (107 likes) stands by Murphy. If anything can be inferred from the two comments, it would seem that your position is supported by more than half of the fans who've expressed an opinion. That's a lot, but there still remains an almost equal amount of fans who agree with the position. Personally, I think a decent boss would back his players when someone who is not a supporter calls them 'sons of bitches.' That's just my way of seeing it and I've no issue with you seeing it differently.

In contrast, Brietbart's gained over 20k comments across two articles on the subject. The 2nd most popular post labels the players 'monkeys.' Using racist terms to criticise a protest against racist actions. Is that irony? Oi reckon!!



a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm not ready to go that far despite there being examples of incompetence. He's exactly what his base voted for and does much of what they expect him to do. Calling people 'sons of bitches' and getting into a WWE-style slanging match with a notoriously thin-skinned dictator is all gravy. A nuclear incident with NK will be seen as awesome. It's difficult to see if he's living up to the expectations of his base or acting this way for the reason you suggest.

The sliding approval numbers ought to make someone, somewhere start managing him before the administration collapses. There's no political or career sense in staying hitched to a declining figure although it hasn't stopped the Dems from sticking by HC. Politics is NeverSayNeverLand.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 06:35 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

Your point is well-taken, however ... the more I look the more I see.



Progressive deterioration eventually hinders independence, with subjects being unable to perform most common activities of daily living. Speech difficulties become evident due to an inability to recall vocabulary, which leads to frequent incorrect word substitutions (paraphasias).

Behavioural and neuropsychiatric changes become more prevalent. Common manifestations are wandering, irritability and labile affect, leading to crying, outbursts of unpremeditated aggression, or resistance to caregiving. Sundowning can also appear. Approximately 30% of people with AD develop illusionary misidentifications and other delusional symptoms.


That's the moderate stage.

Alzheimer's - Wikipedia



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 06:44 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: acackoh

originally posted by: odzeandennz
so no freedom of speech / expression does not apply at work just... ?there must be an asterisk pointing to a footnote saying that in the constitution... just fire the ones you don't agree with, even though no laws or team ethics are being violated?

from the commander in chief...

and Kim Jung Un is the mental one...


so as an employer you think i should paying you (apparently at least $15 an hr) and let you do whatever you want (public university employees excluded)?. Sorry, *I'm* paying you to do what *I* want. But don't believe me, test your theory in the real world and let me know how that goes


You guys just can't get enough of this sh!tcan argument, can you?

First of all, as someone who actually pays employees and manages companies, if you actually had the opportunity to put your own screwed up theories into action, your employees would be unmotivated and disloyal ... and would move on from your company as soon as they could. One of your biggest investments is your people, and if you or anyone else is ignorant enough to throw away employees because they knelt rather than stood during the Anthem, you deserve what you get.


ive had various jobs being an employee and employer and i can tell u that the fairy tale your putting forth doesnt ever work in the real world. i know thats the vision everyone always holds up on a pedestal but its a pipe dream in the vast majority of cases. many people seem to forget that its a 2 way street with employment. respect is earned not givin and it applies to both parties. too many employees demand respect that is unearned, lost at every corner, etc but they think they are a gift to the world and vice versa. human behavior always gets in the way of ever making that a reality and i must say if you really believe what your saying you should take a closer look at your employees cause i can bet u many are taking advantage of the situation



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 06:44 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Kandinsky

Your point is well-taken, however ... the more I look the more I see.



Progressive deterioration eventually hinders independence, with subjects being unable to perform most common activities of daily living. Speech difficulties become evident due to an inability to recall vocabulary, which leads to frequent incorrect word substitutions (paraphasias).

Behavioural and neuropsychiatric changes become more prevalent. Common manifestations are wandering, irritability and labile affect, leading to crying, outbursts of unpremeditated aggression, or resistance to caregiving. Sundowning can also appear. Approximately 30% of people with AD develop illusionary misidentifications and other delusional symptoms.


That's the moderate stage.

Alzheimer's - Wikipedia


People were diagnosing HC with all sorts of things last year and it was a bad look for them. I'd avoid taking the same route



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 07:07 AM
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a reply to: TheScale

Again, on almost this very issue we had ESPN firing people for having a conservative view point.

Where was the outrage from these people then?

It seems it's only when it's speech they agree with do they suddenly take an interest.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: Aboom

Its a good different trust me. This is why trump won the election, he says what the reasonable majority are thinking but won't or can't say themselves. These guys make millions playing a game in a country with one of the best standards of living made possible by the spilled blood of patriotic americans, the tears of wives and mothers and siblings who want just one more moment with their loved ones to say goodbye but oh sure go ahead and protest the song that embodies all the sacrifice and heroism because you can.
As a veteran of OEF and OIF I can assure you all the lost friends faces come to your mind every time you hear the anthem, then you see some entitled kid protesting what exactly? War? American imperialistic policy? Racism? Not sure kneeling and pissing on the soldiers who were just trying to get home with their buddies is going to accomplish anything positive.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 08:07 AM
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originally posted by: Fishermansson
a reply to: Aboom

Its a good different trust me. This is why trump won the election, he says what the reasonable majority are thinking but won't or can't say themselves. These guys make millions playing a game in a country with one of the best standards of living made possible by the spilled blood of patriotic americans, the tears of wives and mothers and siblings who want just one more moment with their loved ones to say goodbye but oh sure go ahead and protest the song that embodies all the sacrifice and heroism because you can.
As a veteran of OEF and OIF I can assure you all the lost friends faces come to your mind every time you hear the anthem, then you see some entitled kid protesting what exactly? War? American imperialistic policy? Racism? Not sure kneeling and pissing on the soldiers who were just trying to get home with their buddies is going to accomplish anything positive.


Applause to you.
Beautifully stated...You should post more often.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: TheScale

Again, on almost this very issue we had ESPN firing people for having a conservative view point.

Where was the outrage from these people then?

It seems it's only when it's speech they agree with do they suddenly take an interest.


At least ESPN had the good sense to nix that white supremacist Asian sportscaster, Robert Lee.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 08:16 AM
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I don't understand why people don't boycott the NFL for ripping us off with bogus stadium deals where the taxpayers pay for the team to make vast fortunes, which they then squander by paying astronomical salaries to people for doing something completely worthless to society, while normal Americans are being bankrupted?

But yeah get upset a song and a flag, that's so much more important.

No wonder people think Americans are stupid.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 08:16 AM
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a reply to: seasonal

Fascinating. Not content with having half the American populace hating him and every civilized nation on Earth mistrusting him, Donald Trump is now trying to turn professional sports against him. The irony is, the only sport he seems to like is professional wrestling: fake sports.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 08:18 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

A company has a right to do what they want within the law.

What some of you are missing here is one the president has told American consumers what to consume which is somewhat unethical.

Two he is pressuring business owners to abandon their 1st amendment rights and agree with his (the government) view point.

This issue is beyond stupid and the president should be doing actual work not furthering the American division.

It's the biggest gripe I heard over Obama and now it's like the opposition is ready to do the same.

It's a huge sheep show.
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posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 08:19 AM
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originally posted by: CB328
I don't understand why people don't boycott the NFL for ripping us off with bogus stadium deals where the taxpayers pay for the team to make vast fortunes, which they then squander by paying astronomical salaries to people for doing something completely worthless to society, while normal Americans are being bankrupted?

But yeah get upset a song and a flag, that's so much more important.

No wonder people think Americans are stupid.


Agree with you totally on your first point.

On people getting upset about the kneeling, personally I say let the kneel. I disagree with them, but it doesn't really bother me.

I think he fact that this is hitting a nerve with so many people is that football is an escape for them.

Most politicans, academia, the media, and almost all cultural figures such as atheletes and actors mock, demonize, or ignore this people in flyover country.

So now when they see it thrown in their face during football, it makes them mad.

I agree there are much more important issues, but this one is right out in the open and people are tired of it.



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