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Trump-BOYCOTT NFL teams whose players refuse to stand for the National Anthem

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posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:43 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Grambler




I am having a conversation.

I meant with people of color.
I thought you had mentioned that earlier. Maybe not.


I don't care what color someone is.

Why is that a hang up with you?

People of all colors support and are against these protests.

I want to discuss it with people that support these protests, regardless of color.




posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Are you referencing the Fryer study at Harvard?



edit on 23-9-2017 by Gryphon66 because: noted



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:44 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

I might be drunk but this one makes ATS unpatriotic because they use the same flag.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:45 PM
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a reply to: UnBreakable
I know that following the train of a conversation can be difficult but allow me to summarize:
1) Someone said that the football players should shut up because the are privilaged to have a job.
2) I said "having a job is a privilage?"
3) You said something about the number of unemployed
4) I said, so that means people with a job should shut up?



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:46 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

Are you referencing the Fryer study at Harvard?




I believe so.

www.businessinsider.com...

Note is says that unarmed blacks are 20 percent less likely to be shot than others.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:46 PM
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a reply to: Grambler




I don't care what color someone is.

You don't think a black person could offer you a perspective that you as a white person don't have?

I could swear you said something about that earlier. Maybe not.


edit on 9/23/2017 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:48 PM
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If I use my free speech to condemn the U.S., I am not being patriotic.


How does that work? One can be patriotic and still condemn actions taken by my country, if I deem them to be not in its best interests.

Because right or wrong, it's still the country my ancestors helped build with their tears, their sweat, and all too often, their blood, and lives.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:48 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Actually the study I linked doesn’t say anything like that. I linked the study directly from Harvard.

Are you going on Business Insider’s interpretation?
edit on 23-9-2017 by Gryphon66 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:50 PM
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a reply to: seagull

Yeah.
I did some pretty good condemning about the war in Southeast Asia. I didn't then nor do I now consider it unpatriotic.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:50 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

It means "in distress"

Which it seems safe to assume we are.

Cheers!



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:50 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Grambler




If I use my free speech to condemn the U.S., I am not being patriotic.


How does that work? One can be patriotic and still condemn actions taken by my country, if I deem them to be not in its best interests.

Because right or wrong, it's still the country my ancestors helped build with their tears, their sweat, and all too often, their blood, and lives.


The funny thing is the Foxcons are the ones who want to control the free speech.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:51 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Grambler




I don't care what color someone is.

You don't think a black person could offer you a perspective that you as a white person don't have?

I could swear you said something about that earlier.


I said I would like to talk to the protesters.

If is said just black protestors, i assure you I meant any of them.

No i don't think that a person's skin color gives them a unique perspective.

Its one small part of who they are.

Sheriff David Clark is black, and hates blm and thinks the idea of racist police is ridiculous.

I am sure there are other black people like that too.

So would you take their word as more insightful than yours, based merely on their color?
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posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:51 PM
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originally posted by: DancedWithWolves
a reply to: Deaf Alien

It means "in distress"

Which it seems safe to assume we are.

Cheers!


I know. They don't want you to do that.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

I keep noticing people site this Harvard study. As if it the end all report to end all reports. After looking it up, if it's the same one of course, his findings apply to Houston only. Only Houston. Not everywhere is like Houston.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:52 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

... and now you want to play semantics.

Numbers don't lie.

As I said. You found what you want to believe. But don't pretend that you haven't been shown differently.


Numbers don't lie.

Blacks are 12 percent of the population and commit around 50 percent of homicides.



You're right. Straight from the Department of Justice:
narrative-collapse.com...
This is where Black Lives Matter should focus.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:53 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Grambler




If I use my free speech to condemn the U.S., I am not being patriotic.


How does that work? One can be patriotic and still condemn actions taken by my country, if I deem them to be not in its best interests.

Because right or wrong, it's still the country my ancestors helped build with their tears, their sweat, and all too often, their blood, and lives.


The funny thing is the Foxcons are the ones who want to control the free speech.


Yes remember them rioting over and over again to stop conservative speakers on campuses?

Oh wait...



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:54 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Grambler




If I use my free speech to condemn the U.S., I am not being patriotic.


How does that work? One can be patriotic and still condemn actions taken by my country, if I deem them to be not in its best interests.

Because right or wrong, it's still the country my ancestors helped build with their tears, their sweat, and all too often, their blood, and lives.


The funny thing is the Foxcons are the ones who want to control the free speech.


Yes remember them rioting over and over again to stop conservative speakers on campuses?

Oh wait...

The anarchists?
edit on 9/23/2017 by Deaf Alien because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:54 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Grambler

I keep noticing people site this Harvard study. As if it the end all report to end all reports. After looking it up, if it's the same one of course, his findings apply to Houston only. Only Houston. Not everywhere is like Houston.


Ok show me a study that shows unarmed blacks are more likely to be shot from anywhere then.

I honestly will read it.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:54 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Grambler




If I use my free speech to condemn the U.S., I am not being patriotic.


How does that work? One can be patriotic and still condemn actions taken by my country, if I deem them to be not in its best interests.

Because right or wrong, it's still the country my ancestors helped build with their tears, their sweat, and all too often, their blood, and lives.


The funny thing is the Foxcons are the ones who want to control the free speech.


Yes remember them rioting over and over again to stop conservative speakers on campuses?

Oh wait...

The anarchist?


Why bring Obama into it?



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:55 PM
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Look at the Drudge page.

That's a master stroke of misdirection.

One shout out at a rally and a few Twitter posts.

And he has the entire U.S. media chasing its tail.

And they all fell for it ........again.

In the sports entertainment world, its called a work.

Buck




edit on 23-9-2017 by flatbush71 because: (no reason given)




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