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Trump-BOYCOTT NFL teams whose players refuse to stand for the National Anthem

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posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:13 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT



BTW...they're being paid the moment they take the field.

Guess what, they're being paid from the moment they sign their contract.




posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:13 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

They're on salary. They're paid when they're taking a shower.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:14 PM
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originally posted by: Restricted

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Restricted

originally posted by: 2Baaka

originally posted by: Restricted

Trump-BOYCOTT NFL teams whose players refuse to stand for the National Anthem


Already implemented this strategy. No NFL for me this year.

If they want my business they need to bring the a**hats on the field in line.

I'm not even wearing my team hat.


Wow...same for me except...

My boycott is because of people and owners like you.

A player can protest what they want if they aren't hurting anyone.


What I object to is using the job to force politics down the throats of fans. Football is a sport, not politics.

If they want to protest, fine, but do it off the field when you're not on the clock.


You people with these throat forcing metaphors. By the same token then, Trump was "on the job" when he made his asinine comments. Why should the American people have the President's politics shoved down our throats?


Apples and oranges.

When you're on the field you are part of a football team. That is no place for individual politics and divisiveness.



Your real issue is you rather black people suffer in silence and out of sight. THAT is the real issue you and others have.

You're angry that at least this small segment of blacks have a public stage making it hard for people like you to pretend white supremacy is a myth lol.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Tempter

Can one of you make your own point without claiming to speak for millions of other people?

While you're at it, you might avoid the royal "we."

Also, lay off the Breitbart and Fox News; you're gonna get an ulcer.


I AM speaking for millions of football fans and the fact that you would think ANYTHING I said in that post wouldn't be adored by any fan shows how little you know about football and it's fans.

If we rated people around here on their qualifications to speak on a topic you'd have been booted from this one a long time ago.

You don't understand football, period. It's a way of life and YOU DON'T GET IT.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: IAMTAT



BTW...they're being paid the moment they take the field.

Guess what, they're being paid from the moment they sign their contract.


No, they arent.

Again, some of you so ignorant about this sport it's best you just stay out of it.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: IAMTAT



BTW...they're being paid the moment they take the field.

Guess what, they're being paid from the moment they sign their contract.


No, they arent.

Again, some of you so ignorant about this sport it's best you just stay out of it.


Blow it out your nose. The only thing being expressed here is opinions. If you don't like it, click off.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:18 PM
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Feel free. You've every right to say and do that as they do.

Did you think I was going to say otherwise?? It does not matter what I think of the act of kneeling during the anthem. The point is they've a right to do so, just as you've the right to not like it.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Tempter

Can one of you make your own point without claiming to speak for millions of other people?

While you're at it, you might avoid the royal "we."

Also, lay off the Breitbart and Fox News; you're gonna get an ulcer.


I AM speaking for millions of football fans and the fact that you would think ANYTHING I said in that post wouldn't be adored by any fan shows how little you know about football and it's fans.

If we rated people around here on their qualifications to speak on a topic you'd have been booted from this one a long time ago.

You don't understand football, period. It's a way of life and YOU DON'T GET IT.


You're convinced of your own self-importance; I'm not.

Keep crying.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:21 PM
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posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:21 PM
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a reply to: Phage

The Seahawks kneeling certainly are.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:21 PM
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...and when the cameras are on...they are promoting their personal agenda directly to NFL 'clients'.
With game cameras off...or when off the field...they can do as they please.

I pay a yearly salary to employees, whom are also under contract...and I don't care what they promote politically or personally after 9 to 5 on weekdays.
In the office...and in front of clients, they do only the work they're paid to do.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Phage

...and when the cameras are on...they are promoting their personal agenda directly to NFL 'clients'.
With game cameras off...or when off the field...they can do as they please.

I pay a yearly salary to employees, whom are also under contract...and I don't care what they promote politically or personally after 9 to 5 on weekdays.
In the office...and in front of clients, they do only the work they're paid to do.


And if you fire your highly trained employees for something so trivial as not standing during the Anthem, you're wasting your investment.

I'm sure you're not in a habit of doing that, or you wouldn't have a business.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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Football players don't work 40 hour weeks and they work on weekends.

So, you would fire someone for expressing their opinion? If that opinion had nothing to do with doing their actual job?
Nice. Hopefully they aren't valued employees.

edit on 9/23/2017 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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I predict we see players from coast-to-coast kneeling tomorrow.

Bets?



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:26 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I don't bet.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Okay.
Don't tear me apart...as I think everyone should be able to freely express their opinion.

But aren't these players 'at work'...and 'on company time' at these games?

If one of my employees was coming into work and using a portion of the working day to promote his personal and political agenda to our clients...while I'm paying him to do the job for which he was hired... he would be fired.

Especially so...if he kept up the practice after being reprimanded.



Here's the thing though, these aren't regular, dime a dozen employees. They're skillset isn't something you csn find by putting an ad in the paper lol.

These players are also their own brand. These players also have the leverage (even if they don't realize it).



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:32 PM
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If an employee engages in premeditated and self-serving behavior that offends and/or alienates paying customers during company hours...resulting in lost business and income...They should be fired.

They are not good employees...and they are a liability to the business.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:32 PM
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This is probably a gross oversimplification.

But I think there are basically two things an owner wants from a team, to win and to make money and those two are connected most of the time.

If the players decision to kneel starts costing them money, they may intervene.

However, the better the player is which impRove's the winning makes the owner less likely to fire them for these reasons.

The fact is if trump owned a team and fired them for kneeling or other political reasons, he would have a lousy team.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: IAMTAT

Football players don't work 40 hour weeks and they work on weekends.

So, you would fire someone for expressing their opinion? If that opinion had nothing to do with doing their actual job?
Nice. Hopefully they aren't valued employees.

www.nytimes.com...

It's not like very talented athletes haven't been suspended for actions and words that weren't illegal in the past. It's a popularity contest, really... once a player's off the field choices start driving away fans and impacting a team or league's bottom line, their talents aren't enough to offset the losses taken by letting them do whatever they want.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 05:34 PM
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Ok.

Are the teams losing revenue because of these actions?



They are not good employees...and they are a liability to the business.
They're pro football players. They do their jobs pretty damned well as far as I can tell.




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