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Trump-BOYCOTT NFL teams whose players refuse to stand for the National Anthem

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posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:39 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: badw0lf


You have argued that NFL players who protest police brutality and systemic racism, by bending on one knee during the National Anthem, are not protected by the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution because racism isn't about government and law enforcement isn't racist.

I challenged that argument.

Now, you can continue portraying a dancing cockroach, with an ice cream cone atop your head! Run along insect man!



*flap flap flap them gums*

I have never once said that these miscreants cannot protest in any way they desire. They are the ones coming off as idiots.

I've said that what they are doing is not getting what they intend to, across. You're the one incapable of getting it, and are effectively the cockroach here. Scurrying away from the point when it's plainly put to you, only to return and reiterate the same tired rubbish.

You're the one thinking putting an ice cream on your head and hopping about, will make people go "Oh he's serial, I better rethink my world view!" and if anyone says "Dude, that's just stupid. There are better ways to protest that looking like a fool!" you retort "Hurrr You're against the 1st, nazi, go home white nationalist!!111"

get a clue, will ya.




posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: badw0lf




So tell me then, what does disrespecting fallen heroes do to further the rectification of police brutality and racial divide?
Who did that?


I don't think by sticking your finger up at the entire country, is the way to go about it.
The players did not stick their finger up at me.



edit on 9/23/2017 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Got everything to do with being proud of who you are.

Nothing to do with "I hate my nation, I will blow raspberries and everyone will understand"



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

"It is not about what you think. It is about freedom. "

Freedom is a wonderful thing, do as you wish with it.

But understand, NOBODY is free from consequence.

So people should choose their words and actions carefully.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: badw0lf

I'm proud of who I am. I think the players are too.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:42 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Nah. Zero strawmen.

Trump has said all those stupid things.


No he hasn't. People who are butthurt that he became president have said it for him, and then you claim it is his words, verbatim.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:43 PM
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I don't recall any sitting president getting this involved with the workings of sport. They tend to tread a line. I remember Obama during the SB 4 years ago saying, "Seeing as my Bears aren't here I think the Seahawks will win. But I hope it's a good game." Bush was the same with the Cowboys. Clinton with the Rockettes. WHAT? How did that get in here?



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:43 PM
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a reply to: Black_Fox




So people should choose their words and actions carefully.

You're talking about the president. Right?



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:43 PM
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a reply to: badw0lf

My god, your posts are getting sillier by the moment.

Let me break it down for you ... it's your opinion that these players who choose to kneel are being disrespectful.

Others here disagree with you.

Taa daa!



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:44 PM
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originally posted by: badw0lf

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Nah. Zero strawmen.

Trump has said all those stupid things.


No he hasn't. People who are butthurt that he became president have said it for him, and then you claim it is his words, verbatim.


Wrong again.

It's on the record. You can cry all you want about the facts.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Try to keep up, please.

I responded to someone saying ATS members had said they should be sacked. And in this thread, there have not been many, which I stated. I could care less what Trump said, or the man in the moon for all that matters.

You all think you have a grasp on things, when you're clutching at straws. "But Trump said it. So Nyah!"

It's like arguing with twelve year olds.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Black_Fox




So people should choose their words and actions carefully.

You're talking about the president. Right?


OK, you gotta a stick up your butt about Trump.
Great, fantastic.

But your to smart to act stupid.
You know I didn't specify, it was being said for all.
Trump, Nfl players, hell the janitor at the Wal-Mart.

But you already knew that.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: badw0lf

Oh dear B.Dubs.
Trump's comment and demeanor was more blowing raspberries than the silent kneelers


And I'm not sure where these players said they hate their nation and stuck their fingers up at us. Can you link it please?



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: Black_Fox

I was looking for clarification, actually.

But, since the president has that bully pulpit. Do you think he should be extra special careful. Since the whole world is listening?



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: badw0lf


It's like arguing with twelve year olds.


I'm glad you can empathize with my pain.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Black_Fox

I was looking for clarification, actually.

But, since the president has that bully pulpit. Do you think he should be extra special careful. Since the whole world is listening?


You needed clarification for when I stated "NOBODY" ??

Ok, now your just being stupid.

You win.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: badw0lf


Because?

Do explain.

Sports events are not significant to national identity.

The right to peaceably assemble clause of the 1st amendment does not require explicit demonstrations of proof that the assembly (such as athletes and spectators) is not gathered for purposes of insurrection. Those demonstrations of loyalty are voluntarily done for fear that the authorities may get the wrong idea and open fire.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:50 PM
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a reply to: badw0lf



I have never once said that these miscreants cannot protest in any way they desire.


You've tried to argue that their protests aren't protected by the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution by saying this:



Protesting the government is one thing. This is not protesting the government, however. It's a racial issue. It's not against the government, it's against a problem that is perceived to be a larger issue.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: Black_Fox
a reply to: SeaWorthy

"It is not about what you think. It is about freedom. "

Freedom is a wonderful thing, do as you wish with it.

But understand, NOBODY is free from consequence.

So people should choose their words and actions carefully.


Thought Fox's words are well worth repeating. Bolding mine.
edit on 9/23/2017 by Martin75 because: Damn spell check...like I don't know what I want to say and need any assistance. Hmpft



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: badw0lf

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: badw0lf

Are you thumbing your nose at God when you get on your knees to pray?

I swear, some of you are just typing to see your fingers twitch.


Haha

> assumes I pray to an imaginary fantasy friend.
> parrots insult
> loses the game, go home Dak.




You don't pray? Why you little heretic bug you ...

I improved your "insult" ... it actually makes some sense now.

Care to stop the side-step?

When people who do pray get down on their knees ... are they thumbing their noses at their God?


If the commonly accepted by religious standards thing to do, was kneel, then no.
If you were to stand to pray, and you knelt, then you'd be thumbing your nose at the commonly accepted religious etiquette.

Or when it came time to shake hands at church, you put your hands in your pockets and ignored people, it would be rude and insulting to those you supposedly had a common ground with.

So, what is it that you want. I don't think your god gives a flying squirrel if you kneel or not to pray. He's just up there going "hahaha dance monkey, dance"



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