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John McCain Once Again Proven to be an Untrustworthy Asshat

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posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 09:07 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: DBCowboy

Sure, sure ... you blame all of government ... that's why you keep talking bout "leftists" and "socialists."

I didn't win sh!t bud. I've been in favor of single-payer since the 1980s.

Are you really that uninformed about both ACA and these silly cobbled-together crap-shows that the Republicans are trying to push?

Government is no more "in charge" of healthcare than it was pre-ACA. None of these plans are government healthcare.


Keep telling yourself that.

Just because government isn't doing what YOU wanted, doesn't mean government isn't in charge of your health care.

It's the old adage, be careful what you wish for. . .

I'm laughing at all of you that wanted government in charge of healthcare.

Laughing.




posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Oh please, get new material. That's your standard come-back.

Government is not in charge of anything. I'm surprised you've bought into that particular lie so fully it seems.

Yeah, yeah, we know you're laughing. You post that handy graphic so that we can't possibly forget.

Stop the whining and assignment of blame. Be the change you want to see in the world.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: oriondc

And I hope single payer does happen, waàay over due IMO.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: oriondc

And I hope single payer does happen, waàay over due IMO.


I doubt if that will ever happen in a corporate Oligarchy.

In a for profit culture...the plebiscite is just a means to an end and that end is profit.

Learn investing, put up your money and take your chances like a true American capitalist.

All these conservatives ranting about government socialism and "commies" are so naive and stuck in pointless ideologies.

Long live Capitalism!!


edit on 23-9-2017 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: olaru12
Well we can hope and dream can't we??



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6
WTF was his problem this time!? The plan actually looked quite good and returned all the matters to the states. AT this point I would just be happy to have the Wild West days of health insurance back. I do recall premiums being so much lower then.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

Look for a bait and switch coming up.

Premiums will drop but "Medicare tax withheld" will increase exponentially. This will affect everyone who owns and runs a business and everyone who works for a living.

That's how government will be able to "afford" to give everyone "free" healthcare.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy
So you think they are baiting for a single payer system?? I can live with that depending on the premiums increase. Maybe I would actually visit a doctor more than once a decade then.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

The new bill will place insurance out of reach for more Americans with preexisting conditions. The result? Death for many people who are covered today.

For that reason alone, it needs to fail.

Fix the ACA and keep its key provisions of comprehensive coverage, no lifetime caps and no preexisting condition penalties.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: DBCowboy
So you think they are baiting for a single payer system?? I can live with that depending on the premiums increase. Maybe I would actually visit a doctor more than once a decade then.


Isn't it obvious?

Most republicans now want to replace Obamacare with their own version of Obamacare.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

I could be totally wrong here and I don't trust a lot of politicians. But it seems like he's only voting no because it's a crappy replacement bill that doesn't really benefit very many Americans. Yes? No?
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posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 11:11 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: worldstarcountry

Look for a bait and switch coming up.

Premiums will drop but "Medicare tax withheld" will increase exponentially. This will affect everyone who owns and runs a business and everyone who works for a living.

That's how government will be able to "afford" to give everyone "free" healthcare.


The overall out of pocket expenditure even taking into account increased taxes would be lower with a single-payer system if we are to believe the Sanders model. There is an efficiency of operation that can be done with single payer that should help as well. I'm just tired of paying an arm and a leg for insurance. The free market model hasn't been working great for everyone overall. Medicare satisfaction rates are very high. Some type of Medicare for all hybrid with additional private purchased coverage can work.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: amazing
a reply to: burdman30ott6

I could be totally wrong here and I don't trust a lot of politicians. But it seems like he's only voting no because it's a crappy replacement bill that doesn't really benefit very many Americans. Yes? No?


Correct..... Look at the reasons people give here for supporting the Republican plan. It's even worse than Obamacare. Sad thing is if they just smashed together the best ideas from the Democrat and Republican plans we'd be making progress. Instead , they just bicker while the Average American suffers.

Cancel Congress's Healthcare Insurance till they reach a bipartisan solution.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: pavil

Like I've been saying, it's a fait accompli.

It doesn't matter what we want or don't want any more.


We're stuck with government-run healthcare.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 11:19 AM
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John McCain Once Again Proven to be an Untrustworthy Asshat


The best thing to do with this guy is cut him loose. He's useless since he can't decide what team he wants to play for.

He'll be dead in a year anyway.

Sayonara, baby. Don't let the door hit you in the a**.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: Khaleesi

Yes, that is who I was referring to thanks for the refresher.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 12:06 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog

Sorry, I thought you were referring to Paul Ryan. oops!



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

King McCain is antithesis to the constitution. Term limits are supposed to keep 'asshats' like McCain from making a career of politics. Because they learn to cheat, become entrenched, stack the system in their favor.

I don't even pretend to understand why he isn't banished from the Kingdom, long ago. He's done his turn, refuse to let him run for office, or deal wth his 'fallout'.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: burdman30ott6

King McCain is antithesis to the constitution. Term limits are supposed to keep 'asshats' like McCain from making a career of politics. Because they learn to cheat, become entrenched, stack the system in their favor.

I don't even pretend to understand why he isn't banished from the Kingdom, long ago. He's done his turn, refuse to let him run for office, or deal wth his 'fallout'.



Can you point to term limits for Senators in the Constitution please? Thank you.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 04:48 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
www.nytimes.com...

Senator John McCain of Arizona announced on Friday that he would oppose the latest proposal to repeal the Affordable Care Act, leaving Republican leaders with little hope of succeeding in their last-ditch attempt to dismantle the health law.

Mr. McCain, who killed the previous repeal effort with his dramatic “no” vote in July, released a statement saying that he could not “in good conscience” support the latest proposal, by Senators Bill Cassidy of Louisiana and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who is Mr. McCain’s closest friend in the Senate.

“I cannot in good conscience vote for the Graham-Cassidy proposal,” Mr. McCain said. “I believe we could do better working together, Republicans and Democrats, and have not yet really tried. Nor could I support it without knowing how much it will cost, how it will affect insurance premiums, and how many people will be helped or hurt by it.”


You know, I defended the man as a human being a few months back when some were voicing joy over his brain cancer diagnosis... now I'm sort of feeling a bit of buyer's remorse.

Songbird, in attempting to defend his indefensible 'no' vote on the first Obamacare repeal/replace vote, attempted to use the excuse that he needed his governor's support to vote in favor of the repeal. Earlier this week, AZ Governor Doug Ducey tweeted that the Cassidy-Graham bill was the best chance we had to repeal and replace Obamacare and urged all of Congress to vote in favor of the bill... well John, there's your governor's support but where the hell are you? Behind the lines stabbing your own allies in the back as usual, you worthless excuse for a lawmaker. It boggles my mind that McCain has been protected from being tossed out of DC on his ass all these years by Lindsey Graham, yet today Songbird stabbed his closest ally in the back with this disloyalty.


In my opinion John McCain deserves a statue and a Nobel peace prize. He is standing in the face of adversity and doing the right thing. I respect him so much more now.



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