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John McCain Once Again Proven to be an Untrustworthy Asshat

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posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:11 AM
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a reply to: oriondc

It's good to see that I'm not the only one who sees it that way.

We have government in charge of our healthcare now.

pfft

Might as well just accept it and go full socialist so the cowards in DC can stop lying.
edit on 23-9-2017 by DBCowboy because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:25 AM
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You people are so hysterical over this! lol. For heavens sake get a grip on yourselves. McCain is not supporting it for the same reasons many others aren't! It's a bad deal, if a deal at all. It's really more a of political stunt.

Do we really want politicians who will blindly follow whatever their party puts forth, or do we want individuals who can weight the pros and cons and make a decision they feel is best for their constituency? This is Susan Collins strong point. She votes on what is best for her state.

To simply go along with whatever your party throws out, renders one a simple non-thinking puppet, does it not?
Puppets are useless. Unless of course, that's what you want if you can't see any further than "party comes first". "Party before the People".



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:27 AM
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a reply to: angeldoll

Angel!

Can you not see that the Heretic McCain has disputed the holy words of the Most High Trump?

Blasphemy! Sacrilege! (... and Fake News!, mustn't forget Fake News!)




posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:32 AM
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Wow OP, really? John McCain (a person I do not personally find admirable but for other reasons --- research Red McDaniels and read his book) chooses to not endorse a 'plan' that actually is nothing more than a 'non-plan' and HE'S the asshat??? Trump never had a 'plan' and doesn't have one now. The entire campaign he was suggesting that HE was going to fix healthcare (beautiful, less expensive, for everyone, remember??) but he NEVER had any plan at all. And then he threw HIS promises onto the GOP making it seem like it was THEIR promise. Trump's only agenda all along has been to eliminate all things Obama in order to stroke his own ego. He couldn't care less about anyone's healthcare.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: jtma508

Not only that, the Republicans have made the repeal and replace of Obamacare their counterpoint legislation for seven years ...

... and they've failed once again. SO much losing.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I know my very bright one. He has made his reasons for voting "no", quite clear. It won't work for Arizona. And people blame him for doing his job!

Oh well.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:36 AM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Gryphon66

I know my very bright one. He has made his reasons for voting "no", quite clear. It won't work for Arizona. And people blame him for doing his job!

Oh well.



McCain feel like he has a lot to make right, I think. I hope he gets the chance and doesn't lose his resolve.

As for most of the rest of them ... 2018 is just around the corner. Tick Tock.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:38 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: jtma508

Not only that, the Republicans have made the repeal and replace of Obamacare their counterpoint legislation for seven years ...

... and they've failed once again. SO much losing.


That's because republicans want government healthcare.

They are liars.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:41 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: jtma508

Not only that, the Republicans have made the repeal and replace of Obamacare their counterpoint legislation for seven years ...

... and they've failed once again. SO much losing.


That's because republicans want government healthcare.

They are liars.


They may want government healthcare, but all they've got is massive subsidies to insurance agencies.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:43 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: jtma508

Not only that, the Republicans have made the repeal and replace of Obamacare their counterpoint legislation for seven years ...

... and they've failed once again. SO much losing.


That's because republicans want government healthcare.

They are liars.


They may want government healthcare, but all they've got is massive subsidies to insurance agencies.



The government writes the laws that insurance agencies have to "obey".



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:44 AM
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Thank you Sen. John McCain, Sen. Bernie Sanders and Mr. Jimmy Kimmel.

More are needed. The clock is still ticking.

Peace



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:45 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: jtma508

Not only that, the Republicans have made the repeal and replace of Obamacare their counterpoint legislation for seven years ...

... and they've failed once again. SO much losing.


That's because republicans want government healthcare.

They are liars.


They may want government healthcare, but all they've got is massive subsidies to insurance agencies.



The government writes the laws that insurance agencies have to "obey".



Indeed, and currently and before the ACA, those laws have favored those insurance companies and their artificial manipulation of the markets.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:49 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: jtma508

Not only that, the Republicans have made the repeal and replace of Obamacare their counterpoint legislation for seven years ...

... and they've failed once again. SO much losing.


That's because republicans want government healthcare.

They are liars.


They may want government healthcare, but all they've got is massive subsidies to insurance agencies.



The government writes the laws that insurance agencies have to "obey".



Indeed, and currently and before the ACA, those laws have favored those insurance companies and their artificial manipulation of the markets.


Government also benefitted.

Government determines payment, payouts, reimbursements, scheduling.

Insurance companies are just the front men for the government.

We have corrupt asshats in DC colluding (see that word?) with insurance agencies to manipulate and pre-determine what our healthcare should look like.

This is government healthcare.

It's what you wanted.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

McCain has, IMHO, been like so many of his so-called Republican friends, more Democrat than Republican and he and others are why I long ago abandonned the "Parties". It is all just a big game of smoke and mirrors played to benefit the Corporate overlords.

Liers lie and Party hacks are all liars.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:52 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

What I wanted? Nah. I've made what I want clear numerous times.

The rest of it? You have it backward.

Government is a front for corporations, not the other way around.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:54 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66
hahahahahahahaha

Okay.

Well, fight for more government control over healthcare then.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:55 AM
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I think it was Hillary Clinton who said medical care in this country is just too damn expensive. People who sell pharmaceuticals and medical equipment are making a killing compared to other countries.

We surely need to look there also, instead of just assuming we must pay whatever they want to charge. It's a huge problem.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Gryphon66
hahahahahahahaha

Okay.

Well, fight for more government control over healthcare then.


Okay.

Keep whining about the bumbling Republicans and trying to blame all your troubles on "the left."



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Gryphon66
hahahahahahahaha

Okay.

Well, fight for more government control over healthcare then.


Okay.

Keep whining about the bumbling Republicans and trying to blame all your troubles on "the left."


You have a reading problem?

I blame all of government.

But I also accept defeat.

You won.

You now have in place, the concept that government should be in charge of healthcare.

If that wasn't the case, we'd still be debating repeal instead of replace.



posted on Sep, 23 2017 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Sure, sure ... you blame all of government ... that's why you keep talking bout "leftists" and "socialists."

I didn't win sh!t bud. I've been in favor of single-payer since the 1980s.

Are you really that uninformed about both ACA and these silly cobbled-together crap-shows that the Republicans are trying to push?

Government is no more "in charge" of healthcare than it was pre-ACA. None of these plans are government healthcare.



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