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ICE arrests parents at Childs hospital before surgery but that is not my concern

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posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: Wayfarer

Hey, go to ANY other country of your choice....with the intent to be there illegally......and you'll see just how fast they work to deport your pequeño culo blanco flaco right out of the country.....

Cry about a law being immoral. Cry about it all you want.


Just get back to me when you've been sent packing. Especially when you actually wanted to be there. Life sucks. Simple fact is, it is the law. It will be enforced when the appropriate agency decides to enforce it.




posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: Black_Fox

LOVE IT.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: FHomerK
a reply to: Wayfarer

Hey, go to ANY other country of your choice....with the intent to be there illegally......and you'll see just how fast they work to deport your pequeño culo blanco flaco right out of the country.....

Cry about a law being immoral. Cry about it all you want.

Just get back to me when you've been sent packing. Especially when you actually wanted to be there. Life sucks. Simple fact is, it is the law. It will be enforced when the appropriate agency decides to enforce it.


if we want to claim america is better, we should BE better



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: FHomerK

Oh right on my most righteous dude! That's what I'm saying! Life is an awful miserable experience, and if there are some made up rules that help perpetuate that paradigm, then who are we to mess with it!? Like what will it take for these folks to understand this and then maybe just off themselves and decrease the surplus population, amirite!?

I wish everybody was as logical and clear minded as us.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: fiverx313

Oh wow. Never once have I heard that before



SO, if you REALLY think that....

Then how about we focus on our own fecal matter that is backed up from our own sewers? What about our own homeless? What about our Vets that we quite literally screw over by not actually looking after them, when they looked after us?
What about our kids that are hungry? Hungry and homeless? What about our kids that want a good education, deserve a good education? What about our family, friends and next door neighbors who cannot afford to care for themselves, for the medicine they need?

WHAT ABOUT DA BAIBAIS????? Oh, I forgot. We'll just eat them. They are tastee, after all.

Oh, sorry for sprinkling a little reality on your rainbow there, sunshine.



I remember when I too once thought it was downright nifty to have high morals, and to have them selectively.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: Wayfarer

What ever you have to tell yourself to be able to sleep at night.

You're good for a laugh. And I suppose you always will be. What, with the quaint way you think you're being so smart and funny, all at the same time.


Guess what. I don't care. I also don't care what you think is right or wrong. I honestly don't.

You're a selectively caring individual. And you don't even see it for what it is.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: AboveBoard

I'm not saying there should be a border free for all, just that our laws need to be enacted with an eye to both justice and mercy, control and compassion.

Unfortunately those things come with a price tag.

I was a case manager for years. One of the reasons I left was that my job changed from being a patient advocate to being the gatekeeper for the benefit of the hospital. Three days was considered an optimum stay, and my job was to get paying folk in the hospital and back out the door within that three day window, and definitely before the hospital started breaking even or losing money.

Toughest part of my job was watching American citizens being kicked into the street, sometimes by police escort, while illegal aliens where given the honeymoon suite because the hospital was either afraid of a lawsuit or because they could get reimbursement from the State or from the Federal Government for housing them.

Too often medical care is not about love and compassion. It is purely about dollars and cents. Usually, from the pockets of you and me, and rarely for our benefit.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: AboveBoard

I'm not saying there should be a border free for all, just that our laws need to be enacted with an eye to both justice and mercy, control and compassion.

Unfortunately those things come with a price tag.

I was a case manager for years. One of the reasons I left was that my job changed from being a patient advocate to being the gatekeeper for the benefit of the hospital. Three days was considered an optimum stay, and my job was to get paying folk in the hospital and back out the door within that three day window, and definitely before the hospital started breaking even or losing money.

Toughest part of my job was watching American citizens being kicked into the street, sometimes by police escort, while illegal aliens where given the honeymoon suite because the hospital was either afraid of a lawsuit or because they could get reimbursement from the State or from the Federal Government for housing them.

Too often medical care is not about love and compassion. It is purely about dollars and cents. Usually, from the pockets of you and me, and rarely for our benefit.



Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU.

People REALLY need to wake the hell up. All of the feel good "of the moment" kumbaya singing needs to stop. Our OWN people need help, and we're not giving them what they need, what they paid into.

I'd really love to know how wonderful the average snowflake thinks it'll be when we say sure dreamers, come on in and stay all you want......

..... especially when it comes to the illegal alien getting the benefits that HAD BEEN slated for the sad little snowflake....

It's actually all very laughable. Sad, in a classic clown sorta way. But laughable still.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:38 PM
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originally posted by: FHomerK
a reply to: Wayfarer

Hey, go to ANY other country of your choice....with the intent to be there illegally......and you'll see just how fast they work to deport your pequeño culo blanco flaco right out of the country.....

Cry about a law being immoral. Cry about it all you want.


Just get back to me when you've been sent packing. Especially when you actually wanted to be there. Life sucks. Simple fact is, it is the law. It will be enforced when the appropriate agency decides to enforce it.


This is known as the "two wrongs make it right" argument. Typically it is best answered with the "if your friends all jumped off a bridge, would you" rebuttal.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: FHomerK
a reply to: Wayfarer

Hey, go to ANY other country of your choice....with the intent to be there illegally......and you'll see just how fast they work to deport your pequeño culo blanco flaco right out of the country.....

Cry about a law being immoral. Cry about it all you want.


Just get back to me when you've been sent packing. Especially when you actually wanted to be there. Life sucks. Simple fact is, it is the law. It will be enforced when the appropriate agency decides to enforce it.


This is known as the "two wrongs make it right" argument. Typically it is best answered with the "if your friends all jumped off a bridge, would you" rebuttal.



And honestly, it is typically best answered by ignoring someone as absolutely out of touch with reality as you are.
Enjoy the feelz why they last. Who knows, maybe it'll be your children or grandchildren that end up paying the price. In the meanwhile, you get the lovely feelz.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: FHomerK

I'm not so sure brother. If I'm agreeing with you, and you are saying I'm wrong, then I think that may (by the transitive property) mean you don't really agree with yourself.

Soul searching time man. It takes a real mans-man to admit it. I believe in you.
edit on 38pm17fpmFri, 22 Sep 2017 13:43:36 -0500America/ChicagoFri, 22 Sep 2017 13:43:36 -0500 by Wayfarer because: I felt FHomerK was actually hurting a lot on the inside so I decided to add a bit of positive inspiration at the end.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:44 PM
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a reply to: Wayfarer

And now you've taken all semblence of wind out of your sails by not making any sense whatsoever.

But, hey...it takes a real "mans-man" to sack up and admit that though, right?



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:46 PM
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Hey friend, it seems to be important to you.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: FHomerK

You know nothing about me. So why resort to ad hominem?

Few things will invalidate an argument as fast as resorting to personal insults. The one thing I know for sure: it won't change anyones mind who doesn't already agree with you.

So why bother?



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:50 PM
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a reply to: FHomerK


Here's a hanky for your bleeding heart.

Why thank you for that diagnosis.
Totally took me by surprise.
I thought that I was merely reminiscing.



EVERYONE

... but the connected.

Laws change. They are not absolute.

Farm workers are the key to the U.S. food system, and although our population relies on their labor to put food on the table, these workers lack basic rights, face exploitation and live in fear of reporting abuses.
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This broken immigration system fails to recognize the people who work hard to put food on grocery store shelves, restaurants, and dinner tables across the country. Instead, they are marginalized and face abuse, detention, and deportation. If our broken immigration system isn’t fixed, farm workers will continue to be abused, our multi-billion dollar agricultural industry will lack a stable workforce, and the safety of the nation’s food supply will be in jeopardy.

Ultimately, we need a comprehensive overhaul of our immigration system in order to bring justice to farm workers. This means changing the current system while also preventing the further criminalization of immigrants.

Farm Workers & Immigration

Attempts have been made to get a comprehensive overhaul of our immigration system, and will continue. In the meantime enjoy those fresh fruits and vegetables at a reasonable price at the grocery store.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:50 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan


I'll say as I wish, according to T&C.

And you don't know me, either. You don't know how this may have impacted the people I care about directly or not. You don't know how it may have impacted me directly or not.

But, hey....

You got your feelz, right? Apologies for saying things you didn't care to hear, but....oh well.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I know from my time here you're an independent thinker so it may be frustrating to not have a script to attack for some.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:53 PM
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a reply to: pthena

Never once said they were absolute, nor somehow resistant to change.

What I said was, obey the laws.

Do me the honor, and the decency, of obeying the same very laws that I obey..... each and every day.

Then we can have formal and polite discourse on making all of the changes you care to discuss.

In the meanwhile?

Enjoy being detained by I.C.E..



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:54 PM
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a reply to: luthier

LOL.

Cute.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:56 PM
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originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
My wife, first generation immigration who is not yet a citizen, says it's about time. She wants all illegals gone.


Bravo! I hope she has the decency to remove herself from the country and save the US taxpayers the much needed money!

I think he means his wife is not illegal.




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