NIBIRU WATCH- ATS-ers Down Under 9/21 And On

originally posted by: grindhouzer

originally posted by: notsure1
a reply to: grindhouzer

What if that object was pitch black?

Then wouldnt you see it during the day?

This is the Moon during the day

The Moon is "White"
we only see the part of it that is "Illuminated" by the Sun.

How light interacts with objects determines what we see. Light rays that come from a source such as the sun reflect off items and enter our eye. Chandrasekhar explains: "When the energy is taken up by the object, it's called absorption, and when" the energy "is bounced back by" the object, "it's called reflection." Objects are selective about which colors they will absorb or reflect. "A black object is black because it's absorbing all the light; it's not reflecting any color," Chandrasekhar says. White objects reflect all color.

So just becuase you "CANT SEE IT"
Doesnt mean "ITS NOT THERE"

I was trying to be funny.

But its not there.

a reply to: grindhouzer

The fact that you use the moon as an example shows you really have no idea, I'm sorry to say..

The moon is not "white", nor is it particularly bright.

What you're looking for is called albedo.

The moon's albedo is 0.12.

For comparison, Earth’s albedo is 0.37; Mars is 0.15; Jupiter, 0.52; Saturn, 0.47; Uranus, 0.51; Neptune 0.41 and Venus, the brightest is 0.65.

The dark planet you referenced earlier (WASP-12b) has an albedo half that of the moon, so imagine the moon half as bright it would still be very visible, yeah? Oh and WASP-12b is bigger than Jupiter...still think we wouldn't see it?

www.theregister.co.uk...
www.asterism.org...

Well, if the libido of the moon gets any higher, then we on the hot Mother Earth might be the recipient of a violent coupling! That would be a fitting end, actually, w/out the need for the leering Sun ejecting on us or 'ol Nibiru and his legendary lack of libido for which he compensates by rare spurts of violence.

Those who "know" will understand.

a reply to: Chadwickus

Id say I have a fair idea thanks. Far from "no idea"

Ok so the Moon is actually grey/white.....sorry bout that....

No Im not looking for albedo

Im not saying that WASP-12b is here either. Its clearly not...Ive used the Example of WASP-12b to illustrate that there are Dark Planets ( which may and probably have lower Albedo than WASP-12b ) And I just want to add:

WASP-12b is approximately 44 times closer to ITS star than the Earth is to the Sun.

and its still 2x less reflective than the moon from what we perceive.....

ALSO

Albedo is measured on a scale from zero – a pristine black body that absorbs all light – to one – a perfect white body that reflects all light. WASP-12b is about two times less reflective than the Moon

Thats a Scale from 0 - 1
The measured albedo of WASP-12b is 0.064 at most.
The Moon has an albedo of 0.12
THIS IS NOT HALF THE ALBEDO
THIS IS TWICE LESS THAN THAT OF THE MOON
half of 0.12 would be 0.06

The moon would need an Albedo of 0.128 for WASP-12b to have half the Albedo

a reply to: grindhouzer
The problem is, you are comparing two different levels of significant digits. To make a proper comparison you would need to round the albedo of Wasp-12b to 0.06 (or produce another digit for the Moon). But that 0.12 for the Moon is an average. It gets higher than that.

It also depends upon the type of albedo which is being used. The above is using what is called the geometric albedo. But we don't need to discuss the other types.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: prevenge

Talk about what seriously? A planet/planetary system/brown dwarf that has no gravitational effect on anything else in the solar system, and can't be seen with the naked eye/or from anywhere but the South Pole, but can wipe out life on earth periodically?

YES!

I think that's the situation.

If you think it's bonkers then go ahead and move on.

We're here talking about its potentiality, nonetheless.

Thanks for your participation.

a reply to: prevenge

We're here talking about its potentiality, nonetheless.

Seems you were asking for sightings.


How's that working out? So...no sightings, nothing to talk about?

What's the scenario down under?

New Zealand? Australia? South Africa? Southern South America?

What's your view of the sky delivering as far as anything abnormal?

Post your sightings here!
Thanks!

edit on 9/22/2017 by Phage because: (no reason given)

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: prevenge

We're here talking about its potentiality, nonetheless.

Seems you were asking for sightings.


How's that working out? So...no sightings, nothing to talk about?

What's the scenario down under?

New Zealand? Australia? South Africa? Southern South America?

What's your view of the sky delivering as far as anything abnormal?

Post your sightings here!
Thanks!

O you know, Phage....

The regular...

Just putting it out there...

What's it been... 10 yrs+ our bickering about such subjects..
...like an old married couple...

...sigh...

Good times...

edit on 9/22/2017 by prevenge because: (no reason given)

a reply to: prevenge

Who's been right most often?

Wait, scratch that. Who's been right every time?

How many times has Nibiru showed up?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: prevenge

Who's been right most often?

Wait, scratch that. Who's been right every time?

How many times has Nibiru showed up?

You only have to be right ONCE.

a reply to: prevenge

Doesn't exist.

At least not as defined by the above (hides behind the sun always, only visible from the south pole, come crashing into the inner solar system every 3600 years). None of that is possible.

If it came though the inner solar system every 3600 years, the orbits of the inner planets, including Earth, would be highly eccentric, and life would not be possible here. As it is: the inner planets orbits are very stable and circular in nature.

It is physically impossible for an object to "hide" be hind the sun. Any objects must either orbit the sun, else they either all into it, or are flung away from it and leave the solar system.

It is physically impossible for an object to be visible only over the South Pole, unless said object is very, very small and only a few miles above the South Pole.

No mater how "dark" an object is, it will absorb heat from the sun, and will in turn radiate that heat outward, making it fully visible in the infrared spectrum.

Is it possible that there is a large object far out past the Kuiper Belt that has a very long period orbit? Sure, but it's closest approach to the sun is still much further out than Pluto is (IE it never gets close enough to cause any effect on the Earth).

Is it possible that there is a large object out there that can cause objects like comets to fall inward towards the sun (IE like what happened in the Late Bombardment Period, several billion years ago)? Sure.....But it takes a very, very, very long time for those comets and asteroids to fall inward towards the sun, and as long as they're a mile wide or more, we'll see them coming.

originally posted by: prevenge

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: prevenge

Who's been right most often?

Wait, scratch that. Who's been right every time?

How many times has Nibiru showed up?

You only have to be right ONCE.

So, just keep saying it's going to happen. Over, and over, and over. Keep ignoring the facts. Over, and over, and over.

a reply to: prevenge

So you want to have an echo chamber, where no one can disagree with you, and you can discuss anything you want, whether it's real or not. Got it.

a reply to: TerminalVelocity

I think the concept here is one of one of intelligent design.
In a sense, if such an object "did it's thing"
Then said object wouldn't apply to values that equate to said destinations visible scenarios...

It would just not be advantageous.

If you're gonna make a big mess about it, then make a big mess that brings all and all exclusively into the fold..

Collect the gold.

Build the "next" out of the Gold...

Simple.

a reply to: prevenge

Natural or by intelligent design: does not mater.

Still has to follow the same laws of physics that apply every where.

You can't just ignore gravity. You can't just ignore thermal energy. You can't just ignore the laws of motion. You can't just ignore orbital mechanics.

One can wish for unicorns all day.....does not make them real, no mater how hard you wish for them.

originally posted by: TerminalVelocity
a reply to: prevenge

Natural or by intelligent design: does not mater.

Still has to follow the same laws of physics that apply every where.

You can't just ignore gravity. You can't just ignore thermal energy. You can't just ignore the laws of motion. You can't just ignore orbital mechanics.

One can wish for unicorns all day.....does not make them real, no mater how hard you wish for them.

"Your"
Laws of physics...

a reply to: prevenge

Yup.
Enforced 100% of the time.

originally posted by: prevenge

originally posted by: TerminalVelocity
a reply to: prevenge

Natural or by intelligent design: does not mater.

Still has to follow the same laws of physics that apply every where.

You can't just ignore gravity. You can't just ignore thermal energy. You can't just ignore the laws of motion. You can't just ignore orbital mechanics.

One can wish for unicorns all day.....does not make them real, no mater how hard you wish for them.

"Your"
Laws of physics...

What if on the morrow..
The gold collected...

Was used to. Create the next level bodies of Christhood...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: prevenge

Yup.
Enforced 100% of the time.

Until a breakthrough