Making America Great Again

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Socialism started in America under Obama?

Obviously not what I stated, it got hyperactive under Obama. So much so that a nobody politician like Trump used the hate that Americans have for it invading their way of life to defeat the biggest shoe in candidate of all time.

Really? These are the words I'm responding to:

It refers to the time before Socialist policies infected the nation so that it festered for decades until it came to a head like a big giant puss pocket that burst forth spewing its poison everywhere when Obama took the helm.

So when in American history did Socialist policies not "infect the nation"?

Think of Socialism like AIDS, you can become infected and be a carrier until an Obama comes along weakening your immune system and you develop full blown AIDS/Communism.

Luckily unlike AIDS, we found a cure, TRUMP!

a reply to: TinfoilTP

So with that bit of irrelevancy I'm guessing you never had a particular era in mind when you originally said that because you were talking out your ass. Safe call since Socialism has always existed in this country in some form. If you don't like it then you don't like America, to be honest.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Maybe it's just me, but I really couldn't tell you what particular era is being referenced

The 1940s and 50's, before the Civil Rights era and when women still needed their husband's permission to use birth control.

The "Mad Men" era!

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: TinfoilTP

So with that bit of irrelevancy I'm guessing you never had a particular era in mind when you originally said that because you were talking out your ass. Safe call since Socialism has always existed in this country in some form. If you don't like it then you don't like America, to be honest.

The American Dream has never been to grow up so you could claim your very own welfare check, that came as a consequence of socialism, like a cancer on society.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

That isn't the American Dream even now. I support welfare and other Socialist programs and I pay my own way in life. I'm not an anomaly either. Apparently it is lost on you that getting the pittance that the government gives you for welfare is not enough to live comfortably. If you want to have nice things, you have to work to obtain them. Just like has been the case for the past 230 some years. Making up lies about welfare because you don't like paying taxes doesn't make your lies true.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
AT best it is merely a modernization of "the good ol' days" wistfulness that usually accompanies the middle aged and elderly periods of life.
At worst, it's an echo of every fascist regime that has ever come into power.

So what's the youth perspective, because I doubt they are yearning for the days of Ozzie and Harriet. First thing comes to my mind is that they didn't bother to vote. Maybe they don't relate to the MAGA concept?

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

When they talk about 'the youth not voting' they are talking about liberals.

It's a 'non-issue' because the nuclear family jesus setup has them in line for voting like it's Communion for the Right.

The liberal youth vote doesn't vote because their parents and friends are conservative. They take probably the best individual stance to not vote there is, and they're still judged for it.

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
MAGA has been the war cry. It needs a footnote, though...what's the baseline? When exactly was that?
Maybe it's just me, but I really couldn't tell you what particular era is being referenced. A little help here? And be nice!

the 1950s as it existed in the imagination of leave it to beaver fans...

a reply to: DisinfoEqualsTerrorism

It's a 'non-issue' because the nuclear family jesus setup has them in line for voting like it's Communion for the Right.

Could you explain that a little further....They didn't have nuclear families before Jesus?

a reply to: olaru12

People involved with the church indoctrinate their children for extra votes.

I didn't really explain further, maybe more simply.

originally posted by: DisinfoEqualsTerrorism
a reply to: olaru12

People involved with the church indoctrinate their children for extra votes.

I didn't really explain further, maybe more simply.

Which Church....all of em. Jews, Catholics, Lutherans, who???

Are you drinkin?

a reply to: olaru12

Yeah, mostly all church, which is just splitting hairs of cults.

Further: being 'undecided' is a common feeling of being young, but you only see one side lack votes, the Right pushes their kids through soccer, through communion, through school, and through voting.

I'm not saying don't push, just observe the difference.

a reply to: DisinfoEqualsTerrorism

Yeah, mostly all church, which is just splitting hairs of cults.

Star for that one....

Welcome to the mudpit!!

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

I hesitate to make any generalizations about American youth.

I think for a lot of them, they are just against anything status quo. Trump was able to market himself as "not a politician."

A lot of the young people today also grew up with Trump as a Reality TV star ... and like it or not, that "character" is what many people voted for.

Some of them, I'm sure, have been inculcated into their parent's and grandparent's beliefs about the proper order of society and privilege.

And some ... just want to watch the world burn.

Looking after the well-being of the population is what modern mixed-economies do.

We are a mixed economy, and we have been since the beginning, but certainly since the early 20th century.

All Americans alive today have grown up in and have benefited from our mixed economy; pardon me if I find it absurd if not childish that people complain about it while offering no valid replacements or changes.

Also, should we discuss the only modern President who made reforming our Welfare system a priority (and accomplished it?)

Why that would be William Jefferson Clinton. LOL.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Maybe it's just me, but I really couldn't tell you what particular era is being referenced

The 1940s and 50's, before the Civil Rights era and when women still needed their husband's permission to use birth control.

The "Mad Men" era!

Exactly.

Nevermind the horrific abuses, the inequity, the hungry children and everything else. It was a great environment for Caucasian males, newly returned from the wars, when jobs were available to all of them (at the expense of women and minorities being let go from those same jobs) and free college (GI Bill) and public education so that any Caucasian male could graduate high school and find a job as something other than a porter, janitor, or other menial laborer.

The era when men could treat women like children (listen to some of the old radio plays!) and be verbally abusive to "keep them in their place." When any non-White was called "boy" or "girl" and when women had only recently gotten the vote and even then voted as their husbands liked.

Having lived through them, I don't think they're particularly great, but I'm a woman and I have Hispanic and Black and Asian friends.

a reply to: Byrd

Not to mention, when not only was it illegal to be LGBT (with incarceration and requisite beatings applied) but we were considered a medical issue, treatable by lobotomy, castration, etc.

Quite the horror story ...

ah yes the good old days... when white men were kings in their own homes and the world at large, and everybody else knew their place. won't someone play a banjo for those good ol' days?

a reply to: fiverx313

You mean the one on my knee?

I brought that with me from Alabama.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: fiverx313

You mean the one on my knee?

I brought that with me from Alabama.

i'm not crying for you, but not because you told me :p