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Perilous is the state of our world

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posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

You are making a strawman argument.

The past 20 years have averaged a significant increase in hurricanes and major hurricanes in the Atlantic basin. Just because the US had not had a strike in a few years does not mean we have had quiet hurricane seasons.

It also needs to be noted that El Niño years cause a significant decrease in hurricanes in the Atlantic because it causes strong westerly wind shear in the Atlantic basin.




posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: jrod

No.

You're wrong.

I just showed an article that postulated that the lack of hurricanes might be evidence for manmade climate change.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

An article, aka an opinion piece not actual scientific research. I know it might be confusing to some because the word science is in the web address.

And how exactly am I wrong here?

You 'contributed' 3 posts on page 1 that all say same thing. Do you need me to remind you what a strawman argument is?
edit on 20-9-2017 by jrod because: Science rules



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 08:47 PM
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originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: DBCowboy

An article, aka an opinion piece not actual scientific research. I know it might be confusing to some because the word science is in the web address.

And how exactly am I wrong here?


Did you read the sources that the article was based on?

I'm guessing no.

Look, you want to dismiss an article that postulated that the lack of hurricanes is evidence of man made climate change because we've had hurricanes and there now articles that postulate that hurricanes are evidence of man made climate change.


Believe what you want.

I'm just sitting back and laughing my ass off.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I read the article. Did you?

It does not say less hurricanes(the 2013 season it focused on) are because of climate change, hence why I am calling you out on your strawman.

Good night.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: Rezlooper

I agree, but it's just not climate change.

World debt and the threat of an economic collapse, the threat of nuclear war, technology invading our privacy, government spying on it's citizens, terrorism, poisoning of our food and water, racial divide and political divide, corporate and elite control over the population, destruction and contamination of our environment, increase of drug use in our society and government over-stepping their control in our daily lives.

We certainly are living in perilous times.



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 12:59 AM
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Why don't people label the major climate deniers for who they are:

American Republican, conservative business peopel and right wing politicians including Trump



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 01:32 AM
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originally posted by: Junkheap
If our Sun changed from a Class G to a Class F, we'd be having far worse problems than hurricanes.

You seem very sure of yourself. I am sure you have legitimate scientific proof to back up that grand statement.

This change in the sun has been gradual over the past ~30 years since the global warming started. The number of volcanic eruptions and earthquakes has also increased.

With solar flares this size recently hitting us, we are having major problems as Mexico just found out.
Note: the fake hollow circle in the center of the picture is our Sun.



Here is the kicker. The Bible stated that in the end-of-days there would be calamities like this. Now, who other than God would have known that we would be passing through a section of the Milky Way with more space dust or dark matter.

This dust is friction for our sun which explains why it is heating up.



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 01:36 AM
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a reply to: Tristran




With solar flares this size recently hitting us,
Um. That CME missed us entirely.


Note: the fake hollow circle in the center of the picture is our Sun.
Do you know what a coronagraph is?



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 05:51 AM
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originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: Rezlooper

I agree, but it's just not climate change.

World debt and the threat of an economic collapse, the threat of nuclear war, technology invading our privacy, government spying on it's citizens, terrorism, poisoning of our food and water, racial divide and political divide, corporate and elite control over the population, destruction and contamination of our environment, increase of drug use in our society and government over-stepping their control in our daily lives.

We certainly are living in perilous times.


Lots of evidence of rising stress levels linked to your examples and the negative impact on human DNA.

www.sciencedaily.com...

www.apa.org...

www.geneplanet.com...



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 06:48 AM
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a reply to: teapot

I believe it! Not only do we have to worry about our children's future, we have to worry about how this everyday stress affects us on a physical level. The correlation between stress levels and cancer have been well documented.



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 06:50 AM
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a reply to: Tristran




This change in the sun has been gradual over the past ~30 years since the global warming started. The number of volcanic eruptions and earthquakes has also increased. 


The planet only started warming the last 30 years?

We had an ice age a few millenia ago, the planet has become remarkably warmer since then. I could whip comparisons about all day, the fact is our history books are bare in terms of weather phenomena and saying we are having more natural disasters is hyperbole.

We detect and record more.



the fake hollow circle in the center of the picture is our Sun. 


The flare got nowhere near us.

Btw, as Phage said the pictures you posted were taken using a coronagraph, this blocks out the bright light directly from the sun so that the outer edges and/or ejections can be viewed more clearly.

It's the exact same method as you holding your thumb in between a light source and your eye, your thumb is blocking the light that would otherwise blind your perception of what's in the near vicinity of the light source.

Try it.




Here is the kicker. The Bible stated that in the end-of-days there would be calamities like this. Now, who other than God would have known that we would be passing through a section of the Milky Way with more space dust or dark matter. 


Hogwash. Man wrote the Bible, even if it was translated for him... I mean, I thought the image and word of God would destroy mere mortals, I was also taught to be aware of false prophets.

Holy books, "I didn't die because I was chosen" and the likes sounds like something BS artists would come up with.

Blasphemy?

Maybe. But the Bible says jack about solar flares, dark matter, global warming or even the Milky Way.

I mean it's still debatable on just what the "end times" actually translates to.

You can add yourself to that long line of firebrand preachers who were wrong over the centuries if you like... Or you might be right. You can then flip me off as my soul is dragged to hell.

Wouldn't be very Christian of you though



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 07:01 AM
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a reply to: teapot

And yet, if you compare the stats, weigh up the facts. Everything is better now than 25 years ago, vastly better than 50 and immensely better than 100 or even 200 years ago.

Since we document much more of the world now, you'd think things would get progressively worse. Since there's 7 billion of us and the majority live in destitution.

Is it irony that humanity are living better and healthier in a world that's becoming less and less fit for purpose?

Perilous times indeed. Just not so much for humans.



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 07:24 AM
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a reply to: RAY1990




And yet, if you compare the stats, weigh up the facts. Everything is better now than 25 years ago, vastly better than 50 and immensely better than 100 or even 200 years ago.


Look up the effects of urbanization, a mixed bag of potatoes. And with regards to pollution it's pretty much a no brainer.



Perilous times indeed. Just not so much for humans.


Depends in which slum you're wasting away.



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 08:27 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

I'm speaking overall.

Of course a person's situation depends upon their location. We've got plenty of modern hazardous materials, yesterday it was Europe's waters, lands and air destroying people.

As I stated, the human condition has improved whilst nature's has drastically declined.

Since education is an option for us, since humanity can still be practiced, we can do OK. A damn sight better than nature.

Nature is adaptable. But we've got no precedent for the unnatural elements we've thrown at her.

You cannot convince me that our plight is equal to nature's. We can be unnatural. Hence why many of us have shoes, drink treated water and eat foods with longer than natural shelf lives. Electricity is a necessity today.

I've never seen nature's equivalent to iodine pills, insulin or sun screen. I can't see how nature can co-exist with spent nuclear fuel, how it clears up oil spills or provides water to deserts.

Nature evolves, usually leaving death and decay in it's wake.

Does 7 billion people sound like death and decay to you?

I understand your point though. But we are thriving, not surviving.



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: Rezlooper

Interesting. I have always been something of a skeptic on this and then I saw Katherine Heyho on the t.v. She explains what is going on in a language I can understand. For the skeptics, I would recommend watching her stuff and reading her blog. Also, for the Conservatives here who are hostile to the whole Climate change narrative, let me just point out that environmentalism is perfectly compatible with Conservative values, its called Conservation! What she explained to me is that one of the reasons for the more power of the storms is because the world's oceans are soaking up excess CO2 and that is warming the oceans and that produces orders of magnitude more moisture in the atmosphere to percipitate.

Check it out: katharinehayhoe.com...



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: RAY1990
The planet only started warming the last 30 years?

Blasphemy?

Maybe. But the Bible says jack about solar flares, dark matter, global warming or even the Milky Way.

You can add yourself to that long line of firebrand preachers who were wrong over the centuries if you like... Or you might be right. You can then flip me off as my soul is dragged to hell.


Did I say, 'ONLY' 30 years ago. Any geologist could whip up countless ice-ages.

Talk about nit-picking trolls picking on the slightest misunderstanding. I used 30 years because that was when the GW LIE began.

So Luke 21:25-26 was never written. How bizarre.

And there shall be signs in the sun [SOLAR FLARES], and in the moon, and in the stars [MILKY WAY]; ... the sea and the waves roaring [Fukushima Tsunami]; ...for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.'


Ever wondered if the solar flare was a trap to see who the ATS nit-picking trolls really are ?

A real argument would have been, 'Maybe check the source'
This is the one that probably caused the Mexico earthquake.
3m 25s

Its so easy to agitate little demons. Demons are just so predictable. Now lets see if little grumpy demon pulls your strings and gets you to rant some more.



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 03:24 PM
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originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: Rezlooper

I agree, but it's just not climate change.

World debt and the threat of an economic collapse, the threat of nuclear war, technology invading our privacy, government spying on it's citizens, terrorism, poisoning of our food and water, racial divide and political divide, corporate and elite control over the population, destruction and contamination of our environment, increase of drug use in our society and government over-stepping their control in our daily lives.

We certainly are living in perilous times.

Sounds like any other time in my 60 years of living. You have to get used to the fact that humans cause all kinds of grief. You could go to any point in history and get the feeling the end-times were near. The biggest difference, in modern times, is that we don't live in isolation anymore. We have 24x7 news channels, the Internet and social media. Most of the things discussed here on ATS used to be something you talked about with your friends over a beer. You're buddies would say you're nuts and everyone moved on. Now a days people get their feelings hurt and won't shut up.



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: Tristran

Nah you said.



This change in the sun has been gradual over the past ~30 years since the global warming started. The number of volcanic eruptions and earthquakes has also increased. 


To me, that states global warming started 30 years ago.

But I'll accept the misunderstanding, so what's your baseline for human understanding of global warming?

Once we worked on not destroying the Ozone layer?

Signs in the Sun - We've had loads of solar flares, some near recent very close ones. Yesterday it was solar eclipses. You're just a firebrand preacher.

Signs in the moon - what modern day equivalent do you have today for us preacher? We've touched on eclipses. Blood Moons, mathematical certainties once written in books? You're just a firebrand preacher.

Signs in the stars - yesterday it was comets and meteors, Ufos today? Or are you on about this dust cloud? You're just a firebrand preacher.

The sea and waves roaring - More people tends to equate to more chances for fatality. The Tsunami was devastating but so were others 100's or 1000's of years ago. Isolated events yet fairly common. I've listened to the waters long enough to know they are not wailing... Yet. You're just a firebrand preacher.

Nobody knows the end days, not you nor I. Only God does. Now I know my attitude stinks at this given time but then again so does yours, it's what is expected with firebrand preachers though.

Firebrand preachers have been at it for a long time and they all got it wrong, what make you think you are right?

Because personally, you're coming across as egotistical. I don't much care for that... Or worrying about something the Lord wouldn't make any of us privy to, even Luke.




Ever wondered if the solar flare was a trap to see who the ATS nit-picking trolls really are ? 


Are you saying God mocks and trolls earth to have a go at users of an Internet site?

Not my God, maybe one of those lesser demons you so adamantly applied to me but not God.

Or maybe it's delusions and ego?

I don't know. I wasn't ranting I was musing.

Maybe you should re-read your holy book and practice what it preaches. Mocking about others having demonic influences isn't Christian, if anything you should open your heart, reach out a hand and respect my differing opinion.

You opted for a more aggressive tone.

No wonder people don't have faith, you can't even have faith in Christians being Christian.



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: RAY1990
Then lets just sit back and watch world events unfold.

If you are correct then things will be fairly normal for ever more.
Note: at present the Sun is at its minimum. X-Class flares at its minimum is worrying.

If I am correct then events are about to spiral out of control worldwide before the end of this year.

Firebrand preacher.
Maybe I have every right to be that way because God has shown me why all you hear in the Lake of Fire is the wind and the flames.

Oh, there are sinners there from other worlds that have been Judged and they scream. Yet all you hear is the wind.

The film Constantine with Keanu Reeves is too close to the truth of what the Lake resembles when he is in the flames.

So lets just chill-out and watch world events unfold. Either normally or catastrophically. Time will tell.







 
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