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'We're at war':CIR weaponizes Morgan Freeman in anti-Moscow hysteria

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posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
The obvious fact that explicitly pro-Kremlin posts automatically receive more stars than there are members contributing to the thread should in no way be construed to suggest that there are bots present.


And this is when you explain how ATS stars are a blatant attack on democracy, am I right?




posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: network dude

Who's to say whether it did or didn't affect the outcome of the election? The fact that they are attempting it in the first place should be concerning enough.


Russia will not the be first nor last entity to post nonsense on Twitter.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Grambler

No one said you were. That doesn't change the fact that this site has been crawling with Putin apologists since at least 2014.


Poster said


Oh hell, I have seen ppl around these parts fawn over Putin for ages (and I reckon you have also).


There have been fanboys (as you put it) for Venezuela, Obama, Trump, Hillary Bernie, China, the EU, Milo, Feminists, celebreties, etc. all over ATS.

There have been fanboys of hollywood elite propaganda that seeks to go to war with other countries.

Whats your point?



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: DJW001




The President has appointed a commission to prove that the electoral system cannot be trusted.


That's a lie.....or, to be nice, a misrepresentation at the very least. The Commission on Election Integrity is a Bipartisan commission:


The Commission on Election Integrity will study vulnerabilities in voting systems used for federal elections that could lead to improper voter registrations, improper voting, fraudulent voter registrations, and fraudulent voting. The Commission will also study concerns about voter suppression, as well as other voting irregularities. The Commission will utilize all available data, including state and federal databases.



The illegal and criminal antics of the Democratic Party are starting to show through. Light is a good thing and all the hidden anti-Constitutional endeavors of Dem-wits is getting exposed. Russia?....look no further than the Clintons and their circle. Methinks they dost protest too much. (Look! Over there!! Not here!)



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 10:13 AM
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originally posted by: Butterfinger
Uber Alles was the anthem of Cali left, its now for the entire left.

They already took my uncool niece!

Aaaahhhh, Nostalgia. Such good memories.

I wonder how long it will be before everyone is in a FEMA Camp with 'Down on the Chicken Farm' playing in the background.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 10:21 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Really? You're going to try to downplay this by making some snarky comment about Twitter. The groundwork for the annexation of Crimea and the current civil war in Ukraine was laid online. The same techniques are currently being employed on the Baltic states.

At the same time Russia very nearly had a very valuable puppet ascend to power. The National Front, a party backed and funded by Russia (just one of many in a number of nations), nearly saw their candidate, Marine LePen, become President of France.

Russia has spent decades manipulating and destabilizing other countries. They're masters at it. It was Putin's job for f***'s sake. And you think their methods are suddenly going to become less effective because of social media. If anything I'd be worried that they're more effective because, as you just so helpfully demonstrated, social media is perceived to be innocuous by the masses.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Why not? People, especially those "on the margins" like to feel that there are others who support their beliefs and struggles. Starring posts that confirm the biases of these people are an effective recruitment tool. The entire alt-right movement was born of faceless posters on the internet. Bots are used to inflate their numbers, in the hopes that a "critical mass" will be reached. The events in Charlottesville show that this mass has nearly been reached. Nearly, because the real world consequences of "coming out" are proving unpalatable.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 10:54 AM
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Kremlin mouthpieces attack ‘emotional’ Morgan Freeman — and insist everyone should ignore his Russia video

www.rawstory.com...

Look at it spread across the net.

K~



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254




Russia has spent decades manipulating and destabilizing other countries. They're masters at it. It was Putin's job for f***'s sake. And you think their methods are suddenly going to become less effective because of social media. If anything I'd be worried that they're more effective because, as you just so helpfully demonstrated, social media is perceived to be innocuous by the masses.





Exclusive: Russia Used Facebook Events to Organize Anti-Immigrant Rallies on U.S. Soil

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Russians Appear to Use Facebook to Push Pro-Trump ‘Flash Mobs’ in Florida

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K~



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: DJW001




Why not? People, especially those "on the margins" like to feel that there are others who support their beliefs and struggles. Starring posts that confirm the biases of these people are an effective recruitment tool. The entire alt-right movement was born of faceless posters on the internet. Bots are used to inflate their numbers, in the hopes that a "critical mass" will be reached. The events in Charlottesville show that this mass has nearly been reached. Nearly, because the real world consequences of "coming out" are proving unpalatable.


Because it is an unsubstantiated claim based on nothing more than your emotional reaction to seeing others get stars.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254



Really? You're going to try to downplay this by making some snarky comment about Twitter. The groundwork for the annexation of Crimea and the current civil war in Ukraine was laid online. The same techniques are currently being employed on the Baltic states.

At the same time Russia very nearly had a very valuable puppet ascend to power. The National Front, a party backed and funded by Russia (just one of many in a number of nations), nearly saw their candidate, Marine LePen, become President of France.

Russia has spent decades manipulating and destabilizing other countries. They're masters at it. It was Putin's job for f***'s sake. And you think their methods are suddenly going to become less effective because of social media. If anything I'd be worried that they're more effective because, as you just so helpfully demonstrated, social media is perceived to be innocuous by the masses.


You’ve escalated everything beyond recognition. You think bots on twitter is an attack on democracy. You conflate hacking the DNC to hacking an election. You conflate the former soviet Union with the Russian Federation. You guys have gone crazy.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Poster Boy for the Deep State Bloviates. I can't figure if I'm talking about Morgan Freeman or yourself.

The internet certainly was an issue in this election. Not so much in the Russian sense, however.

It allowed for true dialogue and debate, and when the leftists came up so very short and silly in the debate department they melted and resorted to "Racist!," And "Deplorable!." Oh, and "Russia!"

RT probably did have some minor affect by telling some truths the MSM are too sold out to cover. (And, yes, truth is useful in propaganda and RT is a propaganda tool---like CNN except actually usually accurate.) Having said that, we are economic enemies with Russia. Thanks, mostly, to the extreme & certifiable paranoia of uber-criminal Allen Dulles and others and the draconian National Security Act. It didn't have to be that way, but the deep state you appear to love and worship so much blew the brains out of our very brightest hope and last chance to actually be a great and good nation.

Russia is no saint and we're imperialistic baby bombers. Go figure. But without a doubt, our biggest enemies and threat to freedom are you group-think leftists who swallow propaganda dogma whole and apparently haven't read our Constitution. Or maybe some have but felt it was above their head and allowed some, ahem, Constitutional Lawyer tell them, "What it really means."

Carry on, Comrade---you'll have your Socialist Nanny-State yet!! Maybe.
edit on 20-9-2017 by The GUT because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

What am I escalating and conflating? I'm simply telling you what Russia has 100% been doing throughout Europe the past few years. And what they have been doing has contributed to a changing of the political landscape. Why would you think they wouldn't employ similar techniques in the US and why do you think they would be any less effective?



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

I assume russia does do bad things.

The U.S. has been meddling in other countries elections too.

Oh, and the ndaa that Obama signed allows domestic propaganda.

You know, like the video in the OP.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Where have I ever said I approve of US foreign policy? That's the problem I always have with criticizing Russia. Russia's defenders always act like the world is black and white. If you attack Russia's policies you must defend every US policy. Guess what? That's not true.

Also, unless you can prove that the video in the OP was created by the US government then it's not propaganda. It is simply private citizens expressing their views. Something protected by the First Amendment.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 11:29 AM
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I think morgan's son's college roomate's second cousin agrees

yawn..



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254




What am I escalating and conflating? I'm simply telling you what Russia has 100% been doing throughout Europe the past few years. And what they have been doing has contributed to a changing of the political landscape. Why would you think they wouldn't employ similar techniques in the US and why do you think they would be any less effective?


Elements of the media are engaging in a form of atrocity propaganda so as to convince their viewers to support some sort of sanction, or worse.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

lol.. the video is straight up propaganda

stop being deliberately obtuse



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

I would like to ask you and Xcalibur254 this question and I am asking this sincerely.

Knowing that the United States, and every other 1st world country has in the past, and likely will in the future try to sway other countries elections by some of the same tactics, and perhaps much more "boots on ground" tactics, what kind of punishment should be done to deter these crimes in the future? Again, this is nothing new, there are movies about it, news articles about it, and more proof than there is of the Earth being round.

I didn't vote for Her, I did vote for Trump, but nothing on facebook, or social media swayed my vote. I would have preferred a better option, but I played the hand with the cards I was dealt and wasn't influenced by any outside sources. Were you?



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 11:39 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

So the governments of the Baltic states are making these claims up so they can support economic sanctions that ultimately hurt them?

Facebook groups for Ukrainian statelets originating from Russia did not appear in the lead up to the civil war in that country?

Unfounded online accounts (once again originating from Russia) of persecution of ethnic Russians did not get posted and used as justification for the annexation of Crimea?

Marine LePen herself did not admit that her and the National Front were receiving funding from Russia?

All of these claims are easily verifiable. But continue to live in your fantasy world where Putin is a benevolent leader that has no dreams of conquest.




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