Frankie Boyle explains how most of UK feel about Trump

a reply to: CulturalResilience

He's also anti-Clinton which you'd know if you weren't being a partisan hack. He called her a cover model for Necrophiliacs Monthly which is kinda funny.

He's a black humour comedian. Pissing people off is a side benefit to making his fans laugh. You don't have to give a F cos Scots can't vote in US elections either way.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

In the ten years since I've been an ATS member I have seen maybe 4 posts of yours that I agree with.

This one makes five. That video couldn't be more right if it was stamped by a notary public and certified by Guinness.

originally posted by: netwarrior
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
In the ten years since I've been an ATS member I have seen maybe 4 posts of yours that I agree with.
This one makes five. That video couldn't be more right if it was stamped by a notary public and certified by Guinness.

So I'm improving? Hopefully you are only addressing my politics. But I'm not sure that you've ever seen me come out in actual support of Clinton. And you will have seen me expressing reservations about the military and the intelligence community all of a sudden being the defenders of democracy. I see Trump as being a symptom...not a cause.

The left is in denial that they are being played in a soft coup, and the right is denial that they are being screwed by the team that they elected. Hopefully that gets me to 6 , eh?

originally posted by: Revolution9
a reply to: BlackSkinhead


I am from the UK and I don't think that even slightly. I don't agree with one word you or that hasbeen not funny not comedian have written.

From reading that I can now see that the guy you are quoting is not very clever at all and his opinions carry no weight. Who is he to declare any speaking on behalf of anybody?

I think you are pretending that most of the public feel this when it is just you and that guy. You are lying when you tell us most of the UK think that.

I want to inform EVERY reader here that I am a UK citizen and I do not feel or think any of this about President Trump. This OP does NOT IN ANY WAY speak for me.

OP, don't you EVER dare to pretend to speak for me because you don't. I think I would possibly disagree with just about anything a man like you would say.

Good bye.

I don't know why, but the way you wrote your post doesn't exactly fit the way someone who is British would write it.
Yeah, you're most definitely not British

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: netwarrior
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
In the ten years since I've been an ATS member I have seen maybe 4 posts of yours that I agree with.
This one makes five. That video couldn't be more right if it was stamped by a notary public and certified by Guinness.

So I'm improving? Hopefully you are only addressing my politics. But I'm not sure that you've ever seen me come out in actual support of Clinton. And you will have seen me expressing reservations about the military and the intelligence community all of a sudden being the defenders of democracy. I see Trump as being a symptom...not a cause.

The left is in denial that they are being played in a soft coup, and the right is denial that they are being screwed by the team that they elected. Hopefully that gets me to 6 , eh?

6, 7, and 8! The latter sentence is two different statements! S-stop! I don't know how to react to you when you start making sense.

originally posted by: Revolution9
a reply to: BlackSkinhead


I am from the UK and I don't think that even slightly. I don't agree with one word you or that hasbeen not funny not comedian have written.

From reading that I can now see that the guy you are quoting is not very clever at all and his opinions carry no weight. Who is he to declare any speaking on behalf of anybody?

I think you are pretending that most of the public feel this when it is just you and that guy. You are lying when you tell us most of the UK think that.

I want to inform EVERY reader here that I am a UK citizen and I do not feel or think any of this about President Trump. This OP does NOT IN ANY WAY speak for me.

OP, don't you EVER dare to pretend to speak for me because you don't. I think I would possibly disagree with just about anything a man like you would say.

Good bye.

Hot Damn..

originally posted by: netwarrior

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: netwarrior
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
In the ten years since I've been an ATS member I have seen maybe 4 posts of yours that I agree with.
This one makes five. That video couldn't be more right if it was stamped by a notary public and certified by Guinness.

So I'm improving? Hopefully you are only addressing my politics. But I'm not sure that you've ever seen me come out in actual support of Clinton. And you will have seen me expressing reservations about the military and the intelligence community all of a sudden being the defenders of democracy. I see Trump as being a symptom...not a cause.

The left is in denial that they are being played in a soft coup, and the right is denial that they are being screwed by the team that they elected. Hopefully that gets me to 6 , eh?

6, 7, and 8! The latter sentence is two different statements! S-stop! I don't know how to react to you when you start making sense.

None of this is new, but it's nice to see that we are on the same page.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

I am willing to concede that the older I get the more I realize that both teams suck, the game is rigged, referees are paid off, and the commentators are wearing jerseys for the away team.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Trump is a breath of fresh air. Most people I know here in the UK like him

I don't know where you live but pretty much everyone I know doesn't.

Interestingly, its for a wide variety of reasons. It cuts across Leavers and Remainers. Socialists and liberals don't like him for the obvious reasons. Tories don't like him because they think he's vulgar and a bigger political liability than Boris Johnson. The religious people I know don't think he's very moral. My seven year old and his pals think he's got a silly name.

Think about the proposed state visit. Parliament - the constitutional sovereign authority of the UK, outranking the government - made it clear they'd rather not see him. Trump then said he would come during a parliamentary recess and speak directly to the people. That isn't happening either and he said he'd wait until he was sure of a positive welcome. Maybe he's scared that it would turn out like the pro-Trump Mother of All Rallies in Washington DC last weekend. Not heard of it? Google and find out why.

As someone else pointed out, Poundland is selling Trump merchandise.

Scrambled, a kids TV series on (IIRC) Sunday mornings runs a spot called "Donald Trumps", where a cartoon image of Trump farts.

That's not say Frankie Boyle speaks for everyone. He never said he did. But Trump is an acquired taste in the UK.

a reply to: pavil

I never said anyone should do anything , I havent offered any solution.
I think however that Kim doesnt want to die , he wants to live so that others will worship him as their dear great leader
he wouldnt risk his own neck or lose his hold on the nation. So he will continue taking the piss out of the international community and assert his authority over his subjects.

I think he knows china and russia wont allow america to do anything like "annihilate the entire country of North Korea" like Trump suggested at the UN

but Im no expert on international politics or military strategy so who knows what will happen. I hope the pressure from the bigger countries and continued diplomacy make cooler heads prevail.
Otherwise you know who pays , the public

I am more intelligent and a vet.
I am QUITE capable of STRATEGY: a product lacking with folks into video games and cellphone news programming .
ONCE again,civilians INSULT their own own, by logic and self identifying activism, bordering on outright MARXISM that claims ANARCHISM!

Guess he can ONLY talk and is jealous of those who MUST do ,when others waffle around and get pinned down EH?
Unless HE wants to step up and arm the UK with nukes and tell us ENGLAND'S strategies ,SHUT UP we are driving.

originally posted by: gortex

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Do brits really give a damn what Americans think of their prime minister?

No , but then our PM isn't the leader of the free world.
How many average Americans could even name our PM ?

Duh, I saw the Emmys, it's Winston Churchill.

I'm from the UK and everyone I've talked to about trump, and that would be in the hundreds, think he's a manipulative, lying, dangerous manchild. He says things which he thinks people want to hear to benefit himself and has a pathetic need to feel that he is better/richer/more intelligent/popular than everyone else in the room or he goes into full on tantrum mode. Its a compulsion. Hate and death in Charlottesville but dont worry, apparently he's got the biggest vinyard there... It's like watching a 6 year old with anger issues and deep insecurity. That need to show off. To be centre of attention. These are the characteristics of a very unstable person. Words like "humble" and "decent" are so far away from what Trump represents is its like comparing Mother Theresa to Ebola. And as for playing a game of nuclear chicken with North Korea.. two egotistical nutjobs with keys to warheads, who have a desperate need to show who is better/stronger than the other..who cannot deal with losing face....yeah..can't see that going wrong..at..all..

And as for the chap who claims to be from the UK who practically needed cpr at the thought of being lumped in with Frankie Boyle's view... bloody hell... that was literally the strangest post I've ever read. Chill out, you sound like you are wound up tighter than a North Korean hairdresser on 'Meet The Preseident' day. "You are so awesome...don't listen to those horrible people..I love you sooooooo much.." Wow..just...wow.

The UK is in the grip of a slow continual worsening of the left / right divide. Or more accurately of the new 'traditionalist nationalist' vs 'globalist utopian virtue signaller' divide. Where an individual sits on that divide will entirely describe his/her opinion on trump.

The UK opinion on trump is like the opinion on many things, deeply deeply divided.

originally posted by: ErrorErrorError

originally posted by: Revolution9
a reply to: BlackSkinhead

[stuff wot he wrote]

I don't know why, but the way you wrote your post doesn't exactly fit the way someone who is British would write it.
Yeah, you're most definitely not British

I'm intrigued now. How so? I don't see any of the normal markers there. The language could certainly do with a bit of a polish to take off the rough edges around the grammaticals, but nothing strikes me as "not British" about it?

Not saying you're wrong, I'm just interested in why you got that vibe from the post?

originally posted by: bluesilver
I'm from the UK and everyone I've talked to about trump, and that would be in the hundreds...

I could be mean and read between the lines here, but I'll behave for now

The problem with "everyone I talk to" is this:

I don't talk about politics with strangers, or with work colleagues. In fact, the two golden rules for a happy and healthy workplace are (i) no religion, and (ii) no politics.

So, who do I discuss politics with? I discuss it with people close to me. By virtue of them being people "close to me", I've already created a biased pool of people who are more likely to share similar views, therefore they are more likely to share a similar opinion of Trump.

I could easily say that "everyone I've talked to, thinks Trump is a great opportunity for the US!" It would also be (mostly) true. The reality is that the the pool is already biased before the conversation even began.

"Data" is not the plural of "anecdote", as someone said.

Most Brits must use the colloquial "Most" in the same sense as the States - meaning what most people in Manhattan, Los Angeles, Chicago, Portland, Seattle, and other Metropolitan urban cultures believe... which is to say, nearly the opposite of what any population majority actually believes.

The city of New York has a police force of approximately 50,000 soldiers with a military budget of $5.5 billion annually, last appraised 2016.

That means the City of New York, not to be confused with the State or a Country, ranks 36th in the world, knocking out Chile, Thailand, Kuwait, Belgium, Ukraine, Switzerland, Malaysia, South Africa, Denmark, Egypt, Argentina, Angola, Venezuela, Portugal, Finland, Vietnam, Philippines, Syria, Romania, Jordan... and so on.

So when we talk about politics, violence, gun control, and feeling safe, please do consider, that when you have an entire nation's military budget creating a well trained and equipped army, just to defend one city...

That you are essentially living in a delusion about whether the common man thinks like an urban city dweller who can rely on an Action Film level response to rescue them at a moment's notice. Los Angeles spends hundreds of millions on the homeless.

These peculiar distributions of wealth imply the average person living in these cities has access to resources and worries very different from their rural cousins. Unfortunately, these cities are also the homes of the major news reports, and their urban bias with militarized police armies and vast charities shades their opinion of politics and how day to day life should go. But not everyone lives in London. Not everyone thinks like the talking heads of the Telegraph or BBC.

originally posted by: Revolution9
a reply to: BlackSkinhead


I am from the UK and I don't think that even slightly. I don't agree with one word you or that hasbeen not funny not comedian have written.

From reading that I can now see that the guy you are quoting is not very clever at all and his opinions carry no weight. Who is he to declare any speaking on behalf of anybody?

I think you are pretending that most of the public feel this when it is just you and that guy. You are lying when you tell us most of the UK think that.

I want to inform EVERY reader here that I am a UK citizen and I do not feel or think any of this about President Trump. This OP does NOT IN ANY WAY speak for me.

OP, don't you EVER dare to pretend to speak for me because you don't. I think I would possibly disagree with just about anything a man like you would say.

Good bye.

Christ what an insufferable person you must be IRL. What's the weather like up there on that mightily tall pedestal you have placed yourself on.

After reading the op then your comment and then re reading the op I can't see where they mentioned everyone?

In all my years on ATS I have not seen such a pretentious arrogant post as yours. One can only assume your purposefully spewing your vitriol at OP as some way of sucking up to the trump supporters on here? Perhaps you've become so indoctrinated by them that you behave the same way as them whenever someone dares criticise their dear leader.

For the record I too am from the UK and when it comes to trump I couldn't care less, he has no effect on my life. He is what he is. I do find it weird that people from my country have to get so worked up over a foreign politician and that goes to both you and OP.

a reply to: sapien82

Obama said he could destroy NK as well.

townhall.com...

"We could, obviously, destroy North Korea with our arsenals. But aside from the humanitarian costs of that, they are right next door to our vital ally, Republic of Korea."

originally posted by: Revolution9
a reply to: Flavian

Yes, I do have my triggers. I like to speak for myself. I'm just another loudmouth. I self harm to counteract my utter disgust even with my own politics, lol.

Only joking!

I'm just a bit sore. I mean I am a hippy dude, yet here I am identifying with Republicans and feeling totally alienated by Liberalism. It's a place I didn't think even existed.

As it stands I can't roll with Liberalism because it will hurt me; it is going against my best interests.

Trump is doing well. He is no fool. It is all working as it should. This little snowflake will settle on Trump's hat as he waltzes down Wall Street this coming winter time.

I understand why some of the locals might not like Trump in Scotland for his golf courses, but he has put you on the map internationally. All that business he brings you. I would not go alienating business in our competitive times. Scotland really needs that business.

Let the business man do his thing. See if he can't bring America and its allies some more influence and wealth. I think he has landed it lucky because Britain is up for grabs. I think, financially, we'll be very glad if Trump "grabs" our collective "pussy" and treats us like Melania with lots of treats, hehe!

I agree with everything you've said here and I feel exactly the same. The left have lost the plot.