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A Frightening Message from Inside Islam

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posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 05:17 AM
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posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 05:31 AM
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Ahmad: " Gee Yusuf, what do you want to do tonight?"
Yusuf: "The same thing we do every night Ahmad. Try to take over the world!"

*Pinky and the Brain theme plays in the background*



Seriously now, some guy on some internet site claims something that sounds highly dubious.

I shall ask an obvious question:

Any other reliable sources?

Oh it is interesting how even democrats and hollywood are involved in this evil plot.... they forgot Michael Moore though, also known as Mohammad al-Moor, mastermind of Al-Qaeda.



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 05:38 AM
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"NOTE: References for this article available at: Republican and Proud"



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 05:49 AM
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Now, that's an unbiased peice, isn't it??
Sorry, just couldn't help it, everywhere I seem to go on these board I find myself being turned off by having to shift through the amazing number of posts that are just argueing over this issue......

I mean, this article seems to come from "Republican and Proud?".

As I see it, just as the moderate muslims need to watch their fundalmentist sect and keep them in check, well, the christian moderates need to keep their fundalmentists in check, if they what to reatain the freedom to worship their God as they define it.





[edit on 10-2-2005 by dawnstar]



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
American laws will protect us.

Democrats and Leftist will support us.

UNO will legitimize us. (United Nations Organization)

CAIR will incubate us. (Council on American-Islamic Relations)

ACLU will empower us. (American Civil Liberties Union)

Western Universities will educate us.

Mosques will shelter us.

OPEC will finance us.

Hollywood will love us.

Koffi Annan will pass politically correct sympathetic statement for Jihadists.”




This truely says it all doesn't it..........................



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 05:59 AM
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He must be a former muslim, he said so in his anonymous email.


A few weeks ago I received an e-mail message from a man who called himself “Tim.” He explained that this was not his real name. “Tim” was using this name so that he could remain anonymous. He needs to stay in the realm of the unknown. Tim is a marked man because he has done the unthinkable--the unforgivable. Tim has left Islam and in doing so, he has become a “kaafir”--an infidel--and an apostate.



Tim’s complete letter

We will partner with Leftist, ACLU, with Koffi Annan, and the UN, and if we have to then even with France. Fasten your seatbelt. The war of civilizations has just begun......

......Bill Clinton ordered 50 Tomahawks Cruise missiles costing $100,000,000 each to destroy $50 mud houses that belonged to Osama's family. What a stupidity? What a poor ROI (Return On Investment)


There's no mention of Bush in that letter but they do talk about Clinton, the UN and France. That bit of text above sounds exactly what a Republican mouthpiece would say.

Dr. Horacid, are you "Tim"?

[edit on 10-2-2005 by AceOfBase]



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 06:12 AM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase


Dr. Horacid, are you "Tim"?

[edit on 10-2-2005 by AceOfBase]


I wish I could take credit for this bit of truth, but no I am not Tim.



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid

Originally posted by AceOfBase


Dr. Horacid, are you "Tim"?

[edit on 10-2-2005 by AceOfBase]


I wish I could take credit for this bit of truth, but no I am not Tim.


Truth:
1) Conformity to fact or actuality.
2) A statement proven to be or accepted as true.

Please show me how his (the authors) statements are widely accepted as 'truth'?

If you cannot do this then it would be much more suitable to use words 'personal truth' or 'what I conclude as true', and not a widely accepted view.



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase
they do talk about Clinton, the UN and France. That ... sounds
exactly what a Republican mouthpiece would say.


Perhaps the 'republican mouthpiece' is accurate.

Just because a source MAY have a bias one way or the other,
doesn't make the facts that it says untrue. Example... CBS
is obviously anti-Bush. However, if they report that George
Bush has a budget that doesn't have enough $$$ for border
control ... that doesn't make their report inaccurate just
because they have an obvious bias in their reporting. What
they are saying is still true, even though they only report the
negative about Bush and not the positive.

Follow?



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 07:20 AM
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FlyersFan, what I'm saying is that it doesn't sound like it was written by a Muslim or an ex-Muslim.

What Muslim is going to talk about Clinton hitting mud huts with missiles but not talk about Bush and his actions in Iraq?



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by Johnny Redburn

I wish I could take credit for this bit of truth, but no I am not Tim.


Truth:
1) Conformity to fact or actuality.
2) A statement proven to be or accepted as true.

Please show me how his (the authors) statements are widely accepted as 'truth'?

If you cannot do this then it would be much more suitable to use words 'personal truth' or 'what I conclude as true', and not a widely accepted view.


OK, I will start a world wide poll of this issue, 1 for, 1 against.

Oh, I get to vote for the 30 plus victims who lost their heads in Iraq. That only seems "fair"........31 for, 1 against



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 07:29 AM
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yea, well, when the local news broadcasts reports that officials ARE picking up suspicious people up on the border of canada and taking them into custody, but then told to let them go because there's no money for confinement, well, it does serve a greater purpose than just make us a little irked at Bush, especially if you live close to on of the nuclear powerplants up here. You now know that the terrorists have the capability of entering into your state, your neighborhoos, YOUR NUCLEAR POWER PLANT probably.....you tend to be a little more observant!

Just what is the purpose of this:
"Democrats and Leftist will support us.

UNO will legitimize us. (United Nations Organization)

CAIR will incubate us. (Council on American-Islamic Relations)

ACLU will empower us. (American Civil Liberties Union)

Western Universities will educate us.

Mosques will shelter us.

OPEC will finance us.

Hollywood will love us.

Koffi Annan will pass politically correct sympathetic statement for Jihadists.”



Outside of marking your targets....



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by dawnstar
Just what is the purpose of this:
"Democrats and Leftist will support us.

UNO will legitimize us. (United Nations Organization)

CAIR will incubate us. (Council on American-Islamic Relations)

ACLU will empower us. (American Civil Liberties Union)

Western Universities will educate us.

Mosques will shelter us.

OPEC will finance us.

Hollywood will love us.

Koffi Annan will pass politically correct sympathetic statement for Jihadists.”

Outside of marking your targets....


The purpose of that is to make it look like that's what Muslims are thinking.
The purpose is to make those institutions on the left look like they are a danger to America.
That's why the Christian or Jewish Republican who wrote this talked about those orginizations the way that he did.



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 07:39 AM
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So where is the "logic" in error? These items look pretty "sound".

Just look at Kennedy, Kerry, Reid, how hollywood changed "the sum of all fears"....................I think 'Tim" states the obvious...........



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase

Originally posted by dawnstar
Just what is the purpose of this:
"Democrats and Leftist will support us.

UNO will legitimize us. (United Nations Organization)

CAIR will incubate us. (Council on American-Islamic Relations)

ACLU will empower us. (American Civil Liberties Union)

Western Universities will educate us.

Mosques will shelter us.

OPEC will finance us.

Hollywood will love us.

Koffi Annan will pass politically correct sympathetic statement for Jihadists.”

Outside of marking your targets....


The purpose of that is to make it look like that's what Muslims are thinking.
The purpose is to make those institutions on the left look like they are a danger to America.
That's why the Christian or Jewish Republican who wrote this talked about those orginizations the way that he did.


That's what I said, they're marking their targets, so those that listen to whoever that crazy loon who was susposedly on the radio saying that all the libs should be killed will know who to point their guns at!......it's very complicated war ya know, this war on terror. The American Civil Liberties Union is the enemy, but they want to make it clear that Bush isn't the enemy when he appoints these members of minorities to places of power because he believes in the civil rights of all of our citizens. So, they still need to refine it some....since they can't say the obvious.....any one who doesn't agree with all of Bush's policies is giving aid and comfort to the enemy, and therefore should be shot!!



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by paperclip
Ahmad: " Gee Yusuf, what do you want to do tonight?"
Yusuf: "The same thing we do every night Ahmad. Try to take over the world!"

They're Ahmad, Ahamad and the Yusuf, Yusuf, Yusuf, Yusuf, Yuuussssuufff'
Ahmad: S'Alam!


This guy is a joke on the face of it, he knows the 'genetic code' of all muslims? And its probably a fraud, the entire message is completely annonymous, sent via email, its like a chain letter!

I bet it ends with him saying 'i have large sums of cash in a bank account that i can't withdraw from ,give me your bank account number and I will deposit it there!'


"There is only one flaw in Islam’s plan--the Quran. The plan for world domination is clearly laid out for the followers of Mohammed, including the punishment that awaits those who fail in their mission. “Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will be burnt with fire and suffer a painful doom. “Those who deny Allah's revelations must endure the flaming fire.” If you had heard these words every day of your life, what would you believe?
” "
Obviously, this is not the case. When the arabs expanded throughout the middle east, they did not destroy all non arabs, thats why there are still jews in iraq and israel, thats why there are still assyrian christians, pagans, and even zoroasterians in Iran, of all places! The person writng that article is an idiot for accepting this email as authentic. They certainly pulled a Dan Rather on the issue of the letter, and apparently haven't bothered to study history or religion or even modern politics on the subject that they are pontificating on!



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase
What Muslim is going to talk about Clinton hitting mud
huts with missiles but not talk about Bush and his actions
in Iraq?


Ohhhh now I follow ya'.

..... yes, but perhaps he understands that America is
LIBERATING Iraq from a dictator that mass murdered
Muslims and that it will take time. Whereas Clinton just
threw some missiles over there every time Monica ...
well ... you know ...

That, and do we know when this was written? This could be
from 4 years ago, before Bush got into office.

These are DEFINATLY true

'Western Universities will educate us' - they educate everyone.

'Mosques will shelter us' - definately true. Just this morning on
the news there was another report of a mosque that was funding
terrorists.

'OPEC will finance us' - I have no doubt that the Saudi oil money
has gone to terrorists for decades. They pay them to appease
them so that the terrorists won't hit the Royals. (However, I think
the Royals free ride from terrorists is coming to an end).

'Hollywood will love us' - Hollywood loves anything that they think
the Republicans don't like. Michael Moore... 'nuff said there. Just
look at how Hollywood thinks Cuba is a paradise and that Castro is
running Cuba the way the entire world should be run.



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 07:55 AM
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if you ask me,
its pure anti-islamic propaganda,
with only one intention:
to incrase rage and anger of the western world upon the muslim-islamic population.
and in all this information-propaganda chaos,
who really knows who wrote this article.
i dont buy that he was muslim either.




posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 07:59 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

That, and do we know when this was written? This could be
from 4 years ago, before Bush got into office.


The article is dated February 9 2005 and it states:
"A few weeks ago I received an e-mail message from a man who called himself “Tim.”



posted on Feb, 10 2005 @ 08:03 AM
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This purported letter from "Tim" is ludicrious. And anyone who would, upon finding this letter on the INTERNET , believe that it is truth is a deluded political sycophant whose only goal is destroy any possible room fr intelligent debate becasue of their seething hatred at the idea that their's is not the only idea in the world.
Placing Clinton on the side of terrorists is assinine. Saying he made mistakes in his handling of the growing terrorist threat is not. NOT including the Bush administration's polices as helping to, at least slightly, exaccerbate fundamentalist islamic hatred of America is blind and shortsighted.



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