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President Trump was right that Scotland Yard knew about terror suspect(s). Now being admitted.

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posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

You make fair points there and it's got nothing to do with Trump. He's only a walk on character in a far bigger play; he's full of sound and fury and signifies f*** all.

For example, Merkel was pissed with the Snowdon revelations and how the NSA had effectively been eavesdropping on Germany - an ally. She wanted to stop it all, but was cock-blocked by the German security/intel services who continued to do business with the NSA.

The example reinforces your arguments that the intel agencies of other nations maintain relations with their US counterparts. They are lop-sided arrangements which transcend (or subverts) the will of elected leaders. Presidents and Prime Ministers come and go while our Intel services make allowances for being spied on by their foremost ally, the USA.




posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: intrptr


I also know that SS men were seen around the Reichstag with gerry cans of gas just before it burned.

But the next day the state paraded a 'perpetrator' before the cameras to justify more police state and pave the road to war.

What is the source of that quote, if I may ask? I would like to read more on that aspect.
Thanks

So you can ridicule?

In the history books. Do your own research.

quick check





You placed this quote into your post.

as new CCTV emerges appearing to show alleged bomber

So I asked where you got THAT quote from. Not to ridicule. So I can read it. No need to be snarky about it. I asked a perfectly good question.

Way to be condescending.



ETA: Besides, adding a quote to a post should also have a corresponding link to the source. It's only common courtesy let alone ATS norm.


Sorry, I misunderstood your question. I quoted

as new CCTV emerges appearing to show alleged bomber
from the OP on page one.



posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: intrptr


I also know that SS men were seen around the Reichstag with gerry cans of gas just before it burned.

But the next day the state paraded a 'perpetrator' before the cameras to justify more police state and pave the road to war.

What is the source of that quote, if I may ask? I would like to read more on that aspect.
Thanks

So you can ridicule?

In the history books. Do your own research.

quick check





You placed this quote into your post.

as new CCTV emerges appearing to show alleged bomber

So I asked where you got THAT quote from. Not to ridicule. So I can read it. No need to be snarky about it. I asked a perfectly good question.

Way to be condescending.



ETA: Besides, adding a quote to a post should also have a corresponding link to the source. It's only common courtesy let alone ATS norm.


Sorry, I misunderstood your question. I quoted

as new CCTV emerges appearing to show alleged bomber
from the OP on page one.



Thanks for clarifying, I must have missed that line. I'll go back and read it again.

ETA: Just saw it. DOH!! How did I miss that? I even read the story about the CCTV footage. I just didn't recognize the quote you used and it had me puzzled I missed a different story about the CCTV.



edit on 9/18/2017 by Krakatoa because: additional thought



posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: intrptr


I also know that SS men were seen around the Reichstag with gerry cans of gas just before it burned.

But the next day the state paraded a 'perpetrator' before the cameras to justify more police state and pave the road to war.

What is the source of that quote, if I may ask? I would like to read more on that aspect.
Thanks

So you can ridicule?

In the history books. Do your own research.

quick check





You placed this quote into your post.

as new CCTV emerges appearing to show alleged bomber

So I asked where you got THAT quote from. Not to ridicule. So I can read it. No need to be snarky about it. I asked a perfectly good question.

Way to be condescending.



ETA: Besides, adding a quote to a post should also have a corresponding link to the source. It's only common courtesy let alone ATS norm.


Sorry, I misunderstood your question. I quoted

as new CCTV emerges appearing to show alleged bomber
from the OP on page one.



Thanks for clarifying, I must have missed that line. I'll go back and read it again.

All good. I got a U2U from staff about misquoting, waiting for a reply as to why. I guess I could have added "From OP, page 1".

I also used external quotes, but I noticed " * " instead of cloud icon was in the quote. Not familiar wth that tag (?)



posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 05:52 PM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: queenofswords

Hell yeah! American Presidents should be broadcasting ongoing investigations on Twitter!

Raiding properties will be pointless when Trump's tipping the whole world off about investigations.


Omg! How dare he allude to the few people living under rocks that theres an investigation into a terror plot!

This is like the whole Hobby Lobby cotton thing.



posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 07:07 PM
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Well, Trump does have a bit of an advantage in this time line with Tesla's time machine and all.



posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: Revolution9


Another attack in London by a loser terrorist.These are sick and demented people who were in the sights of Scotland Yard. Must be proactive!

That's Trump's tweet. I don't see anything indicating insider info. It was a terrorist attack. I knew that. Trump seems more proactive than some. It's not much of a stretch to think he would speculate that Scotland Yard wasn't proactive enough.



posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

I am truly shocked by the shallow understanding you have of this relationship between Intel Agencies of various foreign powers.

The relationship was designed to circumvent law. That is all. I wouldn't expect any newly-minted Leader to understand, but it has been exshplained on ATS on more than one occasion.

Everyone is in-on-it. Those in power benefit.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 12:39 AM
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a reply to: Snarl

What shallow understanding? You've made the same argument I did. I'm truly shocked by your shallow inability to understand the post.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 02:06 AM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: queenofswords

Not if there is an active investigation on going.

We have no need to know these things when they're on going. Afterwards, certainly, but not during. That could jeopardize the investigation and allow suspects to escape.



But when it suits their agenda they will tell us exactly what's going on. Cast your mind back to other UK terrorist attacks - we are often told that the suspects are known to police, details about their family etc. It's all about AGENDA. Looks to me like they got peeved off that Trump was getting in there first and telling them what half the country thinks - if they know so much why aren't they proactive rather than reactivate. Oh, right because that would mean changing their foreign policy too! ie stop bombing other countries!
Here is one example
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posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 03:59 AM
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What you are seeing unfold is a plan long in the making by the elites..

They are fully aware ofthese individuals, yet allow them to act. Why?!

The reason being, is that the elites need martial law in place before Planet X comes; to quell the disorder. ML is partially already in place and most are still unaware of the true reason.

The public are even crying out for stricter border controls and policing etc, little do they know this is exactly playing into the hands of the elites.

The UK is grossly overpopulated vs a vs land space. Most of the country will also be wiped out by tsunami soon, and also the chain of imports will take a blow thus reducing food. It will be a quagmire!!

There are now thousands of extremistJihadis in the UK now, as was the plan when the public were emotionally black mailed into accepting 'refugees', we aren't hearing as much about "let the refugees in" now, as this plan was a success.. I.e. All male terrorists or unstable individuals from a war zone are in place currently.

The crux of The matter is about the destruction of the Rh- bloodlines, mostly concentrated in yup you guessed it: TheUK, Scandanavia, US, and Germany predominantly.

I moved from UK to Czech. Best thing I've ever done. Glad to be back in real Europe. We are being set up against each other in te long run btw. The after math of Px could spell anything. Racial wars etc.

The Czech government has advised Their citizens to arm them selves, quie a lot of guns around here I hear. The government described "an Islamic holocaust", so although the government here seem to be looking out for their citizens, they're still not coming clean about Planet X, but by also denying 'refugees' and as I mentioned above the advice about gun ownership, they have at least given their citizens a chance. the UK is finished though. Chickens coming home to roost after the UK public stood by for over ten years, supporting illegal wars, naturally creating extremeists who don't like seeing children in their homelands being bombed.

Stand up and fight for what's right. The only other option is defeat. Things will get very serious soon! Islamic terrorism and NK nukes are in perspective not an issue! Combined they wouldn't come close to what pX is capable of! Of the Uks 65 million people we will be lucky to see 2 million make it through the px passage. Queen is also in Bamoral,so she may have bugged out already, great location for it, like 300 m above sea level and away north from all major UK cities.


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posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
I'm truly shocked by your shallow inability to understand the post.

I guess that's fair.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 04:45 PM
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Still, with our FBI being a joke and our intelligence community a partisan shambles that's only good at being paranoid and digging up stuff on US citizens( and blackmailing them) we can't criticize Scotland Yard. But Trump is right again. He does one thing well, he calls it like he sees it and has a good grasp of the obvious. I guess that's why he wrankles so many in politics.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 11:33 PM
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Regardless if he is right, he still shouldn't be putting it on Twitter. He does understand he is the president right? Not some gossip blogger.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 04:10 AM
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a reply to: Dutchowl

Yes, lets ignore his total ignorance of the importance of informational security, and concentrate on how nice it is that he makes his electorate feel smart, and vindicated in their ignorance of reality.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 04:13 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Dutchowl

Yes, lets ignore his total ignorance of the importance of informational security, and concentrate on how nice it is that he makes his electorate feel smart, and vindicated in their ignorance of reality.


Except in THIS reality, Trump was right.
There was also nothing Trump said that had any impact on the investigation.
You are jumping on a media narrative... in the hope of vindicating your hatred of the President.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 04:27 AM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus
President Trump was right that Scotland Yard knew about terror suspect(s). Now being admitted.


Prime Minister Theresa May and Home Secretary Amber Rudd both said President Trump was acting up and being "speculative".






“I never think it’s helpful for anybody to speculate on what is an ongoing investigation.”



See what you did there? ...Morphed what she said to cover for Trump's dangerous ignorance

Theresa May NEVER said Trump was incorrect.

She RIGHTLY pointed out that LEAKING information during an investigation is not "helpful".

Just insane that Trump did that.

Immediately after a terrorist attack like in London, the investigators do not want suspects to know they are known or identified and being hunted and go into hiding, destroy evidence and all their accomplices hide or run.

Trump's idiotic tweet helped the terrorist suspects and gave them a heads up.

Trump should have his security clearance revoked. He is dangerously ignorant.






Curses!! Foiled again!

Yeah because the terrorists thought no one would figure it out and come looking for them, right?

Seriously?





edit on 9 20 2017 by burgerbuddy because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 04:38 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

He was factually correct in what he said, but entirely wrong to say it at the time he said it, and in the way he said it.

For example, a legitimate statement would have been:

"Let me guess... two weeks or a couple of months from now, the security services will be found to have known about this person all along. It's strange when you look back, how often this is the case! Am I right?"

But no. Rather than make a statement which refers exclusively to the historical commonality at play, he makes a statement specifically about THIS incident, which is linked to his understanding of the current situation, without the slightest regard for the OPSEC of any counter terror investigation active at present.

Why? Because he is a clueless chump. No nuance, no understanding of the necessity for it. He is a chainsaw, performing work best done by a scalpel.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 04:49 AM
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I think people are mad that he figured it out before them.

I'm mad that he even gives enough of a crap to tweet about a terrorist attack in the UK.




posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 04:53 AM
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